I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??

On Aug 8, 1:52*pm, "jimmy" wrote:
I recently *had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??

Any cheap motor that's left running for long periods of time, with
loads of household dust blowing over it, and isn't cleaned
periodically, is a candidate for over-heating and starting a fire.

R

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 13:52:23 -0400, jimmy wrote:

I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me
one of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have
any info regarding this??

Most of these motors have thermal protection. But I suppose that can
fail.

I've seen box fans dry out, and run slowly. But, I'm not familiar with
any thermal protection.

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Learn more about Jesus
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"Jeff The Drunk" wrote in message
news
Most of these motors have thermal protection. But I suppose that can
fail.

On 2010-08-08, jimmy wrote:
I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??

He's a lying sack of sh*t!

I've used 20" box fans for 40 yrs. Old, new, plastic, or metal, they
do what they are designed for. I'd recommend a 20" Lasko, the model
with the extra knob for temp (thermostat ...honest!). Last one I
bought was $20 as Lowe's.

The only prob I ever experienced was wind. Sometimes a late
night/early morning wind would come up and knock the fan out of the
window sill. Being and incredibly lazy ass, I'd drop the venetian
blinds jes far enough to hit the top back edge of the fan and give it
a little resistance from falling. Any good anchoring system will
prevent any probs.

nb

On Aug 8, 2:21*pm, notbob wrote:
On 2010-08-08, jimmy wrote:

I recently *had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??

He's a lying sack of sh*t! *

I've used 20" box fans for 40 yrs. *Old, new, plastic, or metal, they
do what they are designed for. *I'd recommend a 20" Lasko, the model
with the extra knob for temp (thermostat ...honest!). *Last one I
bought was $20 as Lowe's.

So, you believe that your personal experience - one person's
experience - outweighs a conversation with an insurance adjuster?
Hmm. This wasn't some salesperson selling something - looking to gain
something from a lie. How often do people call you first when their
house catches on fire? Sheesh.

See Ed Pawlowski's response about the fan recall. It's rather ironic
that the fan brand you recommend is the one in the that report that
the CPSC recalled. All of these cheap fans are made in China, and we
all know how reliable and trustworthy the Chinese are...at least they
can be relied on to dump their excess lead into our dinner ware. Do
you really think that you're getting a quality product, shipped from
overseas, for $20?

In future, maybe you shouldn't start name calling when you have
nothing really to base it on. Thanks.

R

On 8/8/2010 12:12 PM RicodJour spake thus:

On Aug 8, 2:21 pm, notbob wrote:

On 2010-08-08, jimmy wrote:

I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??

He's a lying sack of sh*t!

I've used 20" box fans for 40 yrs. Old, new, plastic, or metal, they
do what they are designed for. I'd recommend a 20" Lasko, the model
with the extra knob for temp (thermostat ...honest!). Last one I
bought was $20 as Lowe's.

So, you believe that your personal experience - one person's
experience - outweighs a conversation with an insurance adjuster?
Hmm. This wasn't some salesperson selling something - looking to gain
something from a lie. How often do people call you first when their
house catches on fire? Sheesh.

All I can say is that my own experience exactly mirrors that of
"notbob". I've used cheap box fans to ventilate places for a couple
decades now too. Last place I was in I had two of them semi-permanently
installed under a skylight to exhaust hot air. Ran continuously for
hours with nary a problem, in a very dusty environment.

Hell, one of the fans' front plastic grille completely disintegrated
from exposure to sunlight--just flaked into a jillion little
pieces--and the fan kept on just humming away.

My dad used to install window fans in the attic of our house as a
whole-house ventilation system in the summer. The fans he used were a
little better than the cheap Laskos one buys nowadays; I seem to
remember they were made by Bernz, but basically the same type of fan,
run by a fairly cheap induction motor. They lasted many seasons and
never failed.


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On Aug 8, 2:21*pm, notbob wrote:
On 2010-08-08, jimmy wrote:

I recently *had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??

He's a lying sack of sh*t! *

Tell that to the mobile home that I was renting back in the early 80's
that burnt to the ground after I left a box fan running while I was at
the grocery store.

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:56:18 -0700, Ron wrote:

On Aug 8, 2:21Â*pm, notbob wrote:
On 2010-08-08, jimmy wrote:

I recently Â*had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me
one of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have
any info regarding this??

He's a lying sack of sh*t!

Tell that to the mobile home that I was renting back in the early 80's
that burnt to the ground after I left a box fan running while I was at
the grocery store.

So you don't use a box fan now?

On Aug 8, 8:03*pm, Teredo wrote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:56:18 -0700, Ron wrote:
On Aug 8, 2:21*pm, notbob wrote:
On 2010-08-08, jimmy wrote:

I recently *had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me
one of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have
any info regarding this??

He's a lying sack of sh*t!

Tell that to the mobile home that I was renting back in the early 80's
that burnt to the ground after I left a box fan running while I was at
the grocery store.

So you don't use a box fan now?

Nope. Ceiling fans.

On Aug 8, 7:25*pm, Ron wrote:
On Aug 8, 8:03*pm, Teredo wrote:

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:56:18 -0700, Ron wrote:
On Aug 8, 2:21*pm, notbob wrote:
On 2010-08-08, jimmy wrote:

I recently *had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me
one of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have
any info regarding this??

He's a lying sack of sh*t!

Tell that to the mobile home that I was renting back in the early 80's
that burnt to the ground after I left a box fan running while I was at
the grocery store.

So you don't use a box fan now?

Nope. Ceiling fans.

Which just stir inside air.

Harry K

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 19:25:30 -0700, Ron wrote:

On Aug 8, 8:03Â*pm, Teredo wrote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 16:56:18 -0700, Ron wrote:
On Aug 8, 2:21Â*pm, notbob wrote:
On 2010-08-08, jimmy wrote:

I recently Â*had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told
me one of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do
you have any info regarding this??

He's a lying sack of sh*t!

Tell that to the mobile home that I was renting back in the early
80's that burnt to the ground after I left a box fan running while I
was at the grocery store.

So you don't use a box fan now?

Nope. Ceiling fans.

Ceiling fans have an induction motor the same as most any household fan.
So if it's the motor you fear take a look up.

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 16:56:18 -0700 (PDT), Ron wrote:
On Aug 8, 2:21?pm, notbob wrote:
On 2010-08-08, jimmy wrote:

I recently ?had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??

He's a lying sack of sh*t! ?

Tell that to the mobile home that I was renting back in the early 80's
that burnt to the ground after I left a box fan running while I was at
the grocery store.

Sure. The frayed extension cord had nothing to do with it.

notbob wrote:

He's a lying sack of sh*t!

I've seen many of them burst into flame

On 2010-08-09, wrote:
notbob wrote:

He's a lying sack of sh*t!

I've seen many of them burst into flame

I'll be more specific. You're a lying sack of sh*t!!

nb

On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 17:33:34 GMT, notbob wrote:
On 2010-08-09, wrote:
notbob wrote:

He's a lying sack of sh*t!

I've seen many of them burst into flame

I'll be more specific. You're a lying sack of sh*t!!

Do yo~ h@v# som# !ns@n# not!on th@t r#pl@c!ng th# vow#ls w!th
p~nct~@t!on m@k#s @ny f~ck!ng d!ff#r#nc#?

On 2010-08-09, AZ Nomad wrote:

Do yo~ h@v# som# !ns@n# not!on th@t r#pl@c!ng th# vow#ls w!th
p~nct~@t!on m@k#s @ny f~ck!ng d!ff#r#nc#?

Do you really give a fsck?

nb

My window fan just sparked up right now a few times and made popping noises! Freaked me right out and it is brand new and doesn't have any dust on it!

wrote:
My window fan just sparked up right now a few times and made popping
noises! Freaked me right out and it is brand new and doesn't have any
dust on it!

Take it back.

On 7/5/15 11:17 PM, wrote:
My window fan just sparked up right now a few times and made popping
noises! Freaked me right out and it is brand new and doesn't have any
dust on it!


This is the weekend when kids prowl neighborhoods looking for fans to
throw firecrackers at.

On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 20:17:54 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

My window fan just sparked up right now a few times and made popping noises! Freaked me right out and it is brand new and doesn't have any dust on it!

No more dangerous than any motor, most of which will last for years if
not decades and fail without causing a problem.

TAke it back and get another one or another brand.

I"m using my father's fan now that he bought around 1955. Old ones
have to be oiled every year or two but it still works fine.

"jimmy" wrote in message
...
I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one
of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??


Anything with a motor is a potential fire hazard. These are generally
cheaply made, but I've not heard of any particular hazard from them. Did he
give any details as to why? I've used them for years and never had a
problem, nor have I hear of any others. But . . . . I did a quick search
and found this
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml06/06085.html
Name of Product: Lasko, General Electric, Galaxy, and Air King Brand Box and
Pivoting Floor Fans

Units: About 5.6 million

Manufacturer: Lasko Products Inc., of West Chester, Pa.

Hazard: An electrical failure in the motor can pose a fire hazard to
consumers.

Incidents/Injuries: Lasko has received 42 reports of fires possibly
associated with motor failures, with seven reports of injuries, including
burns and smoke inhalation. At least eight of the reported fires resulted in
extensive property damage.

Description: This recall involves various models of Lasko, Galaxy, Air King
and General Electric fans manufactured between January 1999 and July 2001,
and sold through February 2004. Styles and model numbers of recalled fans,
which are either stamped or on a label on the bottom of the fans, are listed
below:

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message ...

"jimmy" wrote in message
...
I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one
of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??


Anything with a motor is a potential fire hazard. These are generally
cheaply made, but I've not heard of any particular hazard from them. Did he
give any details as to why? I've used them for years and never had a
problem, nor have I hear of any others. But . . . . I did a quick search
and found this
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml06/06085.html
Name of Product: Lasko, General Electric, Galaxy, and Air King Brand Box and
Pivoting Floor Fans

Units: About 5.6 million

Manufacturer: Lasko Products Inc., of West Chester, Pa.

Hazard: An electrical failure in the motor can pose a fire hazard to
consumers.

Incidents/Injuries: Lasko has received 42 reports of fires possibly
associated with motor failures, with seven reports of injuries, including
burns and smoke inhalation. At least eight of the reported fires resulted in
extensive property damage.

Description: This recall involves various models of Lasko, Galaxy, Air King
and General Electric fans manufactured between January 1999 and July 2001,
and sold through February 2004. Styles and model numbers of recalled fans,
which are either stamped or on a label on the bottom of the fans, are listed
below:


I knew a family who died in a house fire caused by a box fan
The firemen told their relatives That a box fan is not a window fan
Even though thats where it mostly ends up
a little rain and they rust up and the enamel wears away

a quick search

UNITED STATES
CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY COMMISSION

The insulating enamel on the windings
may have broken down
and caused sparking and arcing.resulting in overheating
thermally protected motor or a impedance-protected motor.
as the varnish broke down and temperature on the winding rose,
the protection failed to keep the windings from erupting in flames
A contributing factor to portable fan-related fires or potential fires was the presence of
plastic materials. When a fan with plastic blades, motor housing or enclosure overheated or
caught fire, the plastic reportedly would melt and drip onto combustible materials such as carpet,
clothing, bedding, paper, etc.


: The incident data show that the second largest number
of incidents was related to the power-supply cords.
The current power-supply cord requirements for portable electric fans allow SP-1, SP-2,
SPT-1 and SPT-2 type constructions. These single-layer-insulation types of cords are not
sufficient to prevent damage as described
According to AHAM, imported portable fans represent more than 75 percent of
all portable fans sold in the U.S., and China is the major exporting country of these products
Information concerning safety
standards on the fans, cords, or plugs was also very limited. For example, only 63 involved fans
or cords were identified as UL Listed;
Spud

On Aug 8, 12:29*pm, "spud42" wrote:
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in messagenews:loadnSvqNK8vZsPRnZ2dnUVZ_oidnZ2d@gigan ews.com...

"jimmy" wrote in message
...
I recently *had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one
of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??

Anything with a motor is a potential fire hazard. These are generally
cheaply made, but I've not heard of any particular hazard from them. *Did he
give any details as to why? *I've used them for years and never had a
problem, nor have I hear of any others. *But . . . . *I did a quick search
and found this
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml06/06085.html
Name of Product: Lasko, General Electric, Galaxy, and Air King Brand Box and
Pivoting Floor Fans

Units: About 5.6 million

Manufacturer: Lasko Products Inc., of West Chester, Pa.

Hazard: An electrical failure in the motor can pose a fire hazard to
consumers.

Incidents/Injuries: Lasko has received 42 reports of fires possibly
associated with motor failures, with seven reports of injuries, including
burns and smoke inhalation. At least eight of the reported fires resulted in
extensive property damage.

Description: This recall involves various models of Lasko, Galaxy, Air King
and General Electric fans manufactured between January 1999 and July 2001,
and sold through February 2004. Styles and model numbers of recalled fans,
which are either stamped or on a label on the bottom of the fans, are listed
below:

I knew a family who died in a house fire caused by a box fan
The firemen told their relatives That a box fan is not a window fan
Even though thats where it mostly ends up
a little rain and they rust up and the enamel wears away

a quick search

UNITED STATES
CONSUMER PRODUCT SAFETY COMMISSION

*The insulating enamel on the windings
may have broken down
*and caused sparking and arcing.resulting in overheating
thermally protected motor or a impedance-protected motor.
*as the varnish *broke down and temperature on the winding rose,
the protection failed to keep the windings from *erupting in flames
A contributing factor to portable fan-related fires or potential fires was the presence of
plastic materials. *When a fan with plastic blades, motor housing or enclosure overheated or
caught fire, the plastic reportedly would melt and drip onto combustible materials such as carpet,
clothing, bedding, paper, etc.

: The incident data show that the second largest number
of incidents was related to the power-supply cords.
The current power-supply cord requirements for portable electric fans allow SP-1, SP-2,
SPT-1 and SPT-2 type constructions. *These single-layer-insulation types of cords are not
sufficient to prevent damage as described
*According to AHAM, imported portable fans represent more than 75 percent of
all portable fans sold in the U.S., and China is the major exporting country of these products
Information concerning safety
standards on the fans, cords, or plugs was also very limited. *For example, only 63 involved fans
or cords were identified as UL Listed;
Spud- Hide quoted text -

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A very good, believable report on somehting that _could_ have happened
with no apparent evidence that it did.

Harry K

Ed Pawlowski wrote:

"jimmy" wrote in message
...
I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me
one of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have
any info regarding this??


Anything with a motor is a potential fire hazard. These are generally
cheaply made, but I've not heard of any particular hazard from them.
Did he give any details as to why? I've used them for years and never
had a problem, nor have I hear of any others. But . . . . I did a
quick search and found this
http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml06/06085.html
Name of Product: Lasko, General Electric, Galaxy, and Air King Brand Box
and Pivoting Floor Fans

Units: About 5.6 million

Manufacturer: Lasko Products Inc., of West Chester, Pa.

Hazard: An electrical failure in the motor can pose a fire hazard to
consumers.

Incidents/Injuries: Lasko has received 42 reports of fires possibly
associated with motor failures, with seven reports of injuries,
including burns and smoke inhalation. At least eight of the reported
fires resulted in extensive property damage.

Description: This recall involves various models of Lasko, Galaxy, Air
King and General Electric fans manufactured between January 1999 and
July 2001, and sold through February 2004. Styles and model numbers of
recalled fans, which are either stamped or on a label on the bottom of
the fans, are listed below:

The Lasko link on the page says they'll send you up to four cord
adapters if you register. I imagine they're fused.

Ive never had an issue till yesterday when my fan caught fire and turned itself into melted plastic

On 8/8/2010 12:52 PM, jimmy wrote:
I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??



ya, i had one tell me 90% of house fires are from computer monitors.
They say what sounds good at the time.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Steve Barker wrote:
On 8/8/2010 12:52 PM, jimmy wrote:
I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told
me one of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you
have any info regarding this??



ya, i had one tell me 90% of house fires are from computer monitors.
They say what sounds good at the time.

100 percent of house fires are caused by ignition of combustable materials,
that is a FACT.

Jon

"Jon Danniken" wrote

100 percent of house fires are caused by ignition of combustable
materials, that is a FACT.

Then why don't they just put the combustibles outside? At least keep them
in a metal box.

In article ,
"Ed Pawlowski" wrote:

"Jon Danniken" wrote

100 percent of house fires are caused by ignition of combustable
materials, that is a FACT.

Then why don't they just put the combustibles outside? At least keep them
in a metal box.

I think Sharper Image sells a special air filter contraption that
removes all the oxygen from the air in your home. That should prevent
most fires.

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 13:27:27 -0700, Jon Danniken wrote:
Steve Barker wrote:
On 8/8/2010 12:52 PM, jimmy wrote:
I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told
me one of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you
have any info regarding this??



ya, i had one tell me 90% of house fires are from computer monitors.
They say what sounds good at the time.

100 percent of house fires are caused by ignition of combustable materials,
that is a FACT.

and 100% irrelevent

On 8/8/2010 2:43 PM AZ Nomad spake thus:

On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 13:27:27 -0700, Jon Danniken
wrote:

Steve Barker wrote:

On 8/8/2010 12:52 PM, jimmy wrote:

I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told
me one of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you
have any info regarding this??

ya, i had one tell me 90% of house fires are from computer monitors.
They say what sounds good at the time.

100 percent of house fires are caused by ignition of combustable
materials, that is a FACT.

and 100% irrelevent

But it is funny (snicker, snicker).


--
The fashion in killing has an insouciant, flirty style this spring,
with the flaunting of well-defined muscle, wrapped in flags.

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On Aug 8, 2:43*pm, AZ Nomad wrote:
On Sun, 8 Aug 2010 13:27:27 -0700, Jon Danniken wrote:
Steve Barker wrote:
On 8/8/2010 12:52 PM, jimmy wrote:
I recently *had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told
me one of the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you
have any info regarding this??

ya, i had one tell me 90% of house fires are from computer monitors.
They say what sounds good at the time.
100 percent of house fires are caused by ignition of combustable materials,
that is a FACT.

and 100% irrelevent

About as revelent as the reports that have been cited that are laced
with "could have happened" "might have happened" etc.

Harry K

On Aug 9, 12:20*am, Harry K wrote:

About as revelent as the reports that have been cited that are laced
with "could have happened" "might have happened" etc.

http://exactproductsinc.com/WordPress/?cat=2

Would you like a bib with that?

R

Except for those which start by ignition of flammable materials.

--
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Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Jon Danniken"
wrote in message ...

100 percent of house fires are caused by ignition of combustable
materials,
that is a FACT.

Jon

On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 15:12:40 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:
On 8/8/2010 12:52 PM, jimmy wrote:
I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??



ya, i had one tell me 90% of house fires are from computer monitors.
They say what sounds good at the time.

87.3% of all statistics are made up

On Sunday, August 8, 2010 at 4:28:32 PM UTC-4, AZ Nomad wrote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 15:12:40 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:
On 8/8/2010 12:52 PM, jimmy wrote:
I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??



ya, i had one tell me 90% of house fires are from computer monitors.
They say what sounds good at the time.

87.3% of all statistics are made up

87.314159265358979323846% to be exact

On Fri, 5 Jun 2020 06:04:10 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sunday, August 8, 2010 at 4:28:32 PM UTC-4, AZ Nomad wrote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 15:12:40 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:
On 8/8/2010 12:52 PM, jimmy wrote:
I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??



ya, i had one tell me 90% of house fires are from computer monitors.
They say what sounds good at the time.

87.3% of all statistics are made up

87.314159265358979323846% to be exact
87+(pi/10) ? That can't be exact. You must have rounded pi.

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 5 Jun 2020 06:04:10 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sunday, August 8, 2010 at 4:28:32 PM UTC-4, AZ Nomad wrote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 15:12:40 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:
On 8/8/2010 12:52 PM, jimmy wrote:
I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??

Well I had a fan, all metal with a flat metal plate as a base, and a
two-blade blade. Maybe made in the 30's. It was clearly once mounted to
some big piece of machinery like a railroad engine and the rivets
holding it were drilled out. I probably got it at a yard sale.

I used it at work. The motor would start, but the blade was on very
loosely and it would take 20 or 30 seconds before the blade caught up,
during which time it made sort of a ringing noise. The people at work
felt sorry for me and bought me a new plastic fan, so I took it home and
nailed one corner to the window sill above my head, for summer time.

I put a switch in the cord and when on my back I could reach up and turn
it on without looking at it. I also took a thermostat from a box fan,
mounted into a big plastic cap from an aerosol can, so the fan turned
off when it cooled off in the middle of the night.

It needed oiling, and as the years went on, it needed oiling more often.
One time, I looked up and the oil in the motor was on fire. And the
motor too. I guess I was lucky to put the fire out with no more damage.

But I think this story is rare, and I doubt fans cause many fires.
Don't all their motors have thermal fuses? (Mine didn't.)

It used a bathroom fan, shaded pole motor to run it, but one size bigger
than what those fans use, and I could never find a motor the right size,
so now I have a big 3-speed plastic fan at the foot of my bed,
controlled by a remote switch in my bed. I still have the fan parts
for the future. Plastic fans take up more space than metal fans do.



ya, i had one tell me 90% of house fires are from computer monitors.
They say what sounds good at the time.

87.3% of all statistics are made up

87.314159265358979323846% to be exact

Hmmph. 87.13%

On Fri, 05 Jun 2020 10:58:59 -0400, micky
wrote:

In alt.home.repair, on Fri, 5 Jun 2020 06:04:10 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

On Sunday, August 8, 2010 at 4:28:32 PM UTC-4, AZ Nomad wrote:
On Sun, 08 Aug 2010 15:12:40 -0500, Steve Barker wrote:
On 8/8/2010 12:52 PM, jimmy wrote:
I recently had a conversation with an insurance adjuster who told me one of
the causes of fires in a home are these box fans...do you have any info
regarding this??

Well I had a fan, all metal with a flat metal plate as a base, and a
two-blade blade. Maybe made in the 30's. It was clearly once mounted to
some big piece of machinery like a railroad engine and the rivets
holding it were drilled out. I probably got it at a yard sale.

I used it at work. The motor would start, but the blade was on very
loosely and it would take 20 or 30 seconds before the blade caught up,
during which time it made sort of a ringing noise. The people at work
felt sorry for me and bought me a new plastic fan, so I took it home and
nailed one corner to the window sill above my head, for summer time.

I put a switch in the cord and when on my back I could reach up and turn
it on without looking at it. I also took a thermostat from a box fan,
mounted into a big plastic cap from an aerosol can, so the fan turned
off when it cooled off in the middle of the night.

It needed oiling, and as the years went on, it needed oiling more often.
One time, I looked up and the oil in the motor was on fire. And the
motor too. I guess I was lucky to put the fire out with no more damage.

But I think this story is rare, and I doubt fans cause many fires.
Don't all their motors have thermal fuses? (Mine didn't.)

It used a bathroom fan, shaded pole motor to run it, but one size bigger
than what those fans use, and I could never find a motor the right size,
so now I have a big 3-speed plastic fan at the foot of my bed,
controlled by a remote switch in my bed. I still have the fan parts
for the future. Plastic fans take up more space than metal fans do.



ya, i had one tell me 90% of house fires are from computer monitors.
They say what sounds good at the time.

87.3% of all statistics are made up

87.314159265358979323846% to be exact

Hmmph. 87.13%
Actually there is a basis to the rumour. A LOT of cheap chinese box
fans were produced without thermal protection in the motors, and were
not "impedence protected" to prevent them from overheating, and when
the bearings seized up they WERE prone to throwing smoke and flames