I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

Mat wrote:

I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning

Perhaps you should live in a less crowded place.

2. They pollute

Most everything pollutes, including the power plant producing the
electricity for your electric trimmer.

3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric

Not if you actually know how to maintain and operate them.

4. They never start reliably

See #3.

5. Always out of gas

See #3.


The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

I don't care to mess with 400' of extension cord maintaining my yard.

Pete C. wrote:
Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:
(snip)
The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

I don't care to mess with 400' of extension cord maintaining my yard.

I really like my electric mower, but dragging the cord around got old
fast. I solved that little problem by mounting my generator on the
mower. It's a Honda generator, so it's fairly quiet. I don't have a
photo handy, but I'm pretty sure there are some on the web. (Folks keep
stopping to take pictures like they've never seen a electric mower
before. Weird.)

Mike Paulsen wrote:
Pete C. wrote:
Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:
(snip)
The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

I don't care to mess with 400' of extension cord maintaining my yard.

I really like my electric mower, but dragging the cord around got old
fast. I solved that little problem by mounting my generator on the
mower. It's a Honda generator, so it's fairly quiet. I don't have a
photo handy, but I'm pretty sure there are some on the web. (Folks keep
stopping to take pictures like they've never seen a electric mower
before. Weird.)

Is this your's also ??

http://thatwillbuffout.files.wordpre...7408018051.jpg

Reed wrote:
Is this your's also ??

http://thatwillbuffout.files.wordpre...7408018051.jpg

I knew what image that was going to be before I clicked on the link.

I need to go outside more often.

Jon

On 7/25/2010 11:51 PM, Mike Paulsen wrote:
Pete C. wrote:
Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:
(snip)
The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

I don't care to mess with 400' of extension cord maintaining my yard.

I really like my electric mower, but dragging the cord around got old fast. I
solved that little problem by mounting my generator on the mower. It's a Honda
generator, so it's fairly quiet. I don't have a photo handy, but I'm pretty sure
there are some on the web. (Folks keep stopping to take pictures like they've
never seen a electric mower before. Weird.)
Mike - That a real gas (pun intended). Seriously, you should consider writing
comedy professionally. That one of the most wry comments I've heard in weeks.
Good one!

On Jul 26, 12:58*pm, Peter wrote:
On 7/25/2010 11:51 PM, Mike Paulsen wrote: Pete C. wrote:
Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:
(snip)
The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

I don't care to mess with 400' of extension cord maintaining my yard.

I really like my electric mower, but dragging the cord around got old fast. I
solved that little problem by mounting my generator on the mower. It's a Honda
generator, so it's fairly quiet. I don't have a photo handy, but I'm pretty sure
there are some on the web. (Folks keep stopping to take pictures like they've
never seen a electric mower before. Weird.)

Mike - That a real gas (pun intended). *Seriously, you should consider writing
comedy professionally. *That one of the most wry comments I've heard in weeks.
Good one!

Gotta admit. I use gas everything. It's simply far more convenient
than electric. If I need to run a trimmer or blower for just a minute
or two I just start it up. With proper care the maintenance is not a
big deal but I'll admit if you are not handy with small engines you
have to treat them as disposable. I have a chain saw that is 30 years
old. A string trimmer that is 15 years old.

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 10:00:27 -0700 (PDT), jamesgangnc
wrote:

On Jul 26, 12:58Â*pm, Peter wrote:
On 7/25/2010 11:51 PM, Mike Paulsen wrote: Pete C. wrote:
Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:
(snip)
The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

I don't care to mess with 400' of extension cord maintaining my yard.

I really like my electric mower, but dragging the cord around got old fast. I
solved that little problem by mounting my generator on the mower. It's a Honda
generator, so it's fairly quiet. I don't have a photo handy, but I'm pretty sure
there are some on the web. (Folks keep stopping to take pictures like they've
never seen a electric mower before. Weird.)

Mike - That a real gas (pun intended). Â*Seriously, you should consider writing
comedy professionally. Â*That one of the most wry comments I've heard in weeks.
Good one!

Gotta admit. I use gas everything. It's simply far more convenient
than electric. If I need to run a trimmer or blower for just a minute
or two I just start it up. With proper care the maintenance is not a
big deal but I'll admit if you are not handy with small engines you
have to treat them as disposable. I have a chain saw that is 30 years
old. A string trimmer that is 15 years old.
Your chain-saw is just a baby. My "newest " one is at least 25, and
the little one at least 35. I have a 53 year old lawn mower, but
normally use the "new" one which is something close to 40 years old by
now. (except for the stainless steel deck I made for it a few years
back to replace the rusted out original mild steel one).

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 22:51:01 -0500, Mike Paulsen wrote:
I really like my electric mower, but dragging the cord around got old
fast. I solved that little problem by mounting my generator on the
mower. It's a Honda generator, so it's fairly quiet.

Quick, throw a big battery in there too, and sell the design as green
tech... :-)

On 2010-07-26, Jules Richardson wrote:

Quick, throw a big battery in there too, and sell the design as green
tech... :-)

Yep. New "hybrid" lawnmower.

nb

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:36:45 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2010-07-26, Jules Richardson wrote:

Quick, throw a big battery in there too, and sell the design as green
tech... :-)

Yep. New "hybrid" lawnmower.


What about the recall? This mower had a power cord.

Short Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNnXLFA5sx0

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:10:05 GMT, Mat wrote:

I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

Who cares what you hate?

snip nonsense

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

So don't buy one.

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:10:05 GMT, Mat wrote Re
Why does anyone still use gas mowers/trimmers?:

3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric

Electric trimmers are nice if you only have a 20'x30' back yard to
keep trimmed. If you have 5 or 10 acres, that won't work.
--
Work is the curse of the drinking class.

Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

I don't think they MAKE an electric riding mower.

Maybe I could jury-rig a golf cart...

Besides that, electric mowers are for women and sissies. Power, loud noise,
chance of explosion, noxious gasses, ability to fling dried dog **** over
5,000 sq ft. - it's a manly thing!

On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 21:51:02 -0500, "HeyBub"
wrote:

Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

I don't think they MAKE an electric riding mower.

Maybe I could jury-rig a golf cart...

Actually there WAS an "electric mule" riding lawn mower a few years
back - I think it was picked up by Agco Allis - invented by a Gingrich
or Gingerich from Baden Ontario area.

Never really caught on, and was several times the price of a gas unit.
IIRC.

Besides that, electric mowers are for women and sissies. Power, loud noise,
chance of explosion, noxious gasses, ability to fling dried dog **** over
5,000 sq ft. - it's a manly thing!

On 2010-07-26, Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

I hate do it by hand even more.

nb

On 7/25/2010 8:10 PM, Mat wrote:

Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal
Hi,
Then you'd better know where/how your power is generated

On Jul 25, 9:10*pm, Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning

How else can you get even with your neighbor with the yappy ass dog
barking all night?

Hank

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:04:26 -0700 (PDT), "Hustlin' Hank"
wrote:

On Jul 25, 9:10*pm, Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning

How else can you get even with your neighbor with the yappy ass dog
barking all night?

..22LR

Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

Mowing should be a fun experience.
Someday I'm putting a custom header and hand throttle on my walk
behind lawnmower and duel exhaust on the riding mower. There is a
market for high perforce lawnmowers. I'd buy a Harley Davidson
lawnmower if they were two cylinder, kick start and sound like the
cycle, I'd chrome the hell out of it.
Weed trimmers? I had to drill some holes in the backside of the
muffler on my weed eater so it would run and sound right. A little extra
oil in the gas also helps keep the mosquitoes at bay.
I'm not religious but I have neighbors that are and I figure it's my
duty to wake them up in time make it to church so I usually mow early on
Sunday mornings. About the time the sun comes up is a good time to start.
Actually there isn't an electric mower made that would have cut the
yard I did yesterday and if there were the juice would have had to come
through a 50 Amp breaker.

"Mat" wrote in message
news
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

I'm not crazy about gas mowers either, but I do love my diesel

I do love my Green Machine weed whacker. I suppose I could use an electric,
but then I'd have to throw a generator in my skid steer to follow me around
the property to power the thing

"Mat" wrote in message
news
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

Please share with us what lot size you have. Would you recommend this for
someone with 3 to 5 acres?

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:51:14 -0400, Dimitrios Paskoudniakis wrote:


"Mat" wrote in message
news
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

Please share with us what lot size you have. Would you recommend this for
someone with 3 to 5 acres?

7000 sqft, of course not. I should have qualified the post. Also, we have
clean hydro electric generated power here.

On Jul 26, 9:53*pm, Mat wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:51:14 -0400, Dimitrios Paskoudniakis wrote:

"Mat" wrote in message
news
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

Please share with us what lot size you have. *Would you recommend this for
someone with 3 to 5 acres?

7000 sqft, of course not. I should have qualified the post. Also, we have
clean hydro electric generated power here.

Possibly your original post should have been more specific, then. Or
possibly you should not have generalized your experience without
more thought.

We have two acres, and our electricity is generated by burning coal.
We
have a 16-hp John Deere lawn tractor. We live just outside of Ann
Arbor, MI,
about 5 miles away from my workplace. Hardly the boondocks, and only
about $200,000 ten years ago. (Probably worth about the same today.)

Allow me to address your points individually:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning

Well, we don't use a trimmer, and relatively few of my neighbors
(whose
yards are typically one or two acres) do, either. I try to wait
until
8 on a Saturday or 9 on a Sunday before mowing. (Mind you, I wake
up at 4:30 on weekdays and no later than 5:30 on weekends.)

2. They pollute

So does electricity generation, except in those few places
where hydro is feasible. Even that is not completely non-polluting
if you take into account the pollution generated during the building
of
power plants.

3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric

Not everywhere. A pity I didn't open my electric bill last night;
I might have more accurate info on electricity rates here. I
believe it might be $0.20/kWh, but my memory isn't what it
used to be.

4. They never start reliably

Only if you fail to keep them properly maintained.

5. Always out of gas

Only if you are irremediably disorganized. It's not difficult
to keep the gas can filled.

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

Granted, if your lot is small enough. We had under 4000 sqft when
I was a kid, and we had an electric mower.

For those rare occasions when I use a trimmer, I use an electric
one, although it's hardly quiet. I'm only interested in trimming
relatively near the house.

Cindy Hamilton

On Jul 27, 9:08*am, Cindy Hamilton
wrote:
On Jul 26, 9:53*pm, Mat wrote:



On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:51:14 -0400, Dimitrios Paskoudniakis wrote:
snip

Please share with us what lot size you have. *Would you recommend this for
someone with 3 to 5 acres?

7000 sqft, of course not. I should have qualified the post. Also, we have
clean hydro electric generated power here.

Possibly your original post should have been more specific, then. *Or
possibly you should not have generalized your experience without
more thought.

Back into the troll soup...

snip

Allow me to address your points individually:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning

Well, we don't use a trimmer, and relatively few of my neighbors
(whose
yards are typically one or two acres) do, either. * I try to wait
until
8 on a Saturday or 9 on a Sunday before mowing. *(Mind you, I wake
up at 4:30 on weekdays and no later than 5:30 on weekends.)

I generally give it at least another hour before I make noise. I
generally mow/trim in the evenings, though. It's cooler (may not
matter in MI, but it does in AL). ;-)

2. They pollute

So does electricity generation, except in those few places
where hydro is feasible. *Even that is not completely non-polluting
if you take into account the pollution generated during the building
of
power plants.

Not to mention the fish and silting of the rivers.

3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric

Not everywhere. *A pity I didn't open my electric bill last night;
I might have more accurate info on electricity rates here. *I
believe it might be $0.20/kWh, but my memory isn't what it
used to be.

$.10 here, but it doesn't matter. It's a *trivial* amount of money.
The OP is trolling for excuses.

4. They never start reliably

Only if you fail to keep them properly maintained.

My 4-cycle trimmer starts quite easily. I don't do anything special
to it, at all. Just hang it up when I'm done.

5. Always out of gas

Only if you are irremediably disorganized. *It's not difficult
to keep the gas can filled.

The 4-cycle trimmer helps here. ;-) ...the primary reason I bought a
4-cycle.

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

Granted, if your lot is small enough. *We had under 4000 sqft when
I was a kid, and we had an electric mower.

For those rare occasions when I use a trimmer, I use an electric
one, although it's hardly quiet. *I'm only interested in trimming
relatively near the house.

I all around the yard (a hill in the back need whacking), edge along
the driveway and street, and blow the clippings back into yard.

On 7/26/2010 8:53 PM, Mat wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:51:14 -0400, Dimitrios Paskoudniakis wrote:


wrote in message
news
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

Please share with us what lot size you have. Would you recommend this for
someone with 3 to 5 acres?

7000 sqft, of course not. I should have qualified the post. Also, we have
clean hydro electric generated power here.


You may be "closest" to hydro power. But believe me the grid is one big
system. If you're using power, you're burning coal, using hydro,
burning natural gas AND using nukes

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Gosh, doesn't everyone? Just have to remember to fill the kettle and
clamp it down tight before you light the fire.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"ktos" wrote in message
...
Everyone should use a wood burning trimmer.

On Fri, 30 Jul 2010 06:59:05 +0000, ktos wrote:
Everyone should use a wood burning trimmer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wood_gas

On 7/30/2010 1:59 AM, ktos wrote:
Everyone should use a wood burning trimmer.

personally, i use a 4stroke gas, and only restring it once a year and
only fill it with gas twice a year.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

If I remember correctly, it was Stormin Mormon who reccomended wood
burning string trimmers. Be sure to fill the kettle with water each
time.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Steve Barker" wrote in message
...
On 7/30/2010 1:59 AM, ktos wrote:
Everyone should use a wood burning trimmer.

personally, i use a 4stroke gas, and only restring it once a year and
only fill it with gas twice a year.

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

"Mat" wrote in message
news
Q: Why does anyone still use gas mowers/trimmers?

Because they do not know how to use a scythe (or judge
it too dangerous.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

On Jul 25, 8:10*pm, Mat wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

What I want is a V8 mower.

On 7/26/2010 9:01 AM, ransley wrote:
On Jul 25, 8:10 pm, wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

What I want is a V8 mower.

here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LXFSLK3otM


--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

On Jul 26, 9:22*am, Steve Barker wrote:
On 7/26/2010 9:01 AM, ransley wrote:

On Jul 25, 8:10 pm, *wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

What I want is a V8 mower.

here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LXFSLK3otM

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Ive been viewing that clip, just the sound is enough to make me want
one, it sure would make grass cutting fun, then I would need a V8
snowblower,

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:52:15 -0700 (PDT), ransley
wrote:

On Jul 26, 9:22Â*am, Steve Barker wrote:
On 7/26/2010 9:01 AM, ransley wrote:

On Jul 25, 8:10 pm, Â*wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

What I want is a V8 mower.

here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LXFSLK3otM

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email

Ive been viewing that clip, just the sound is enough to make me want
one, it sure would make grass cutting fun, then I would need a V8
snowblower,
Guy here in Kitchener/Waterloo a few years back had a Jimmy 6-71 in
the bed of his Chevy 4X4, hydraulically driving a twin-beater McKee
blower mounted on the front. Now THAT sucker would blow snow!!! (and
wake up the neighbours for a few blocks). Ever hear a blown 6-71 whine
through a short (muffled) stack???

wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:52:15 -0700 (PDT), ransley
wrote:

On Jul 26, 9:22 am, Steve Barker wrote:
On 7/26/2010 9:01 AM, ransley wrote:

On Jul 25, 8:10 pm, wrote:
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:
1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas
The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal
What I want is a V8 mower.
here ya go

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LXFSLK3otM

--
Steve Barker
remove the "not" from my address to email
Ive been viewing that clip, just the sound is enough to make me want
one, it sure would make grass cutting fun, then I would need a V8
snowblower,
Guy here in Kitchener/Waterloo a few years back had a Jimmy 6-71 in
the bed of his Chevy 4X4, hydraulically driving a twin-beater McKee
blower mounted on the front. Now THAT sucker would blow snow!!! (and
wake up the neighbours for a few blocks). Ever hear a blown 6-71 whine
through a short (muffled) stack???

My old neighbor put a Cummins Diesel 2 stroke in his little truck
without much a a muffler. Talk about loud! I must say I was happy when
it cracked a head and he sold it.

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 01:10:05 +0000, Mat wrote:

I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric 4. They never
start reliably
5. Always out of gas

The extra few minutes dealing with an ext cord are no big deal

Nice troll...

"Mat" wrote in message
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas


I use these early on a Saturday morning to get even with the neighbors who
played loud music all night Friday when I was trying to sleep!

As to starting trouble, get a Stihl or a commercial model the gardener's
use. These always start easily for me.

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 07:15:14 -0700, "Bill"
wrote:

"Mat" wrote in message
I hate gas mowers/trimmers:

1. They are noisy, the trimmers can drive one crazy trying to sleep in
on a saturday morning
2. They pollute
3. They are +20x more expensive to operate than electric
4. They never start reliably
5. Always out of gas


I use these early on a Saturday morning to get even with the neighbors who
played loud music all night Friday when I was trying to sleep!

A 7AM mower start is a good response to a 3AM party break-up.

As to starting trouble, get a Stihl or a commercial model the gardener's
use. These always start easily for me.