Looking at lakefront property that we know is in the flood plain. The
small house was built in 1955 out of cinder blocks. The realtor says
this happens every 4-5 years. Most of value is in the lot but my
question is about the 12x12 ceramic tiles that are buckling. Would
this likely be due to slab shrinking and swelling because of the
water?

Thanks,

Brad

BradMM wrote:
Looking at lakefront property that we know is in the flood plain. The
small house was built in 1955 out of cinder blocks. The realtor says
this happens every 4-5 years. Most of value is in the lot but my
question is about the 12x12 ceramic tiles that are buckling. Would
this likely be due to slab shrinking and swelling because of the
water?

Thanks,

Brad

Or a sink hole?

On Jun 19, 8:10*am, "
wrote:
BradMM wrote:
Looking at lakefront property that we know is in the flood plain. *The
small house was built in 1955 out of cinder blocks. *The realtor says
this happens every 4-5 years. *Most of value is in the lot but my
question is about the 12x12 ceramic tiles that are buckling. *Would
this likely be due to slab shrinking and swelling because of the
water?

Thanks,

Brad

Or a sink hole?

Under the slab? It's very rocky so I think it would be unlikely but
we're going to get an inspection done regardless.

Thanks!

On 6/19/2010 9:22 AM, BradMM wrote:
On Jun 19, 8:10 am,
wrote:
BradMM wrote:
Looking at lakefront property that we know is in the flood plain. The
small house was built in 1955 out of cinder blocks. The realtor says
this happens every 4-5 years. Most of value is in the lot but my
question is about the 12x12 ceramic tiles that are buckling. Would
this likely be due to slab shrinking and swelling because of the
water?

Thanks,

Brad

Or a sink hole?

Under the slab? It's very rocky so I think it would be unlikely but
we're going to get an inspection done regardless.

Thanks!

It's unlikely tiles will "buckle" however the underlayment is likely the
problem. Likely those tiles are not on concrete but something more prone
to shrinking and swelling.

It's unlikely tiles will "buckle" however the underlayment is likely the
problem. Likely those tiles are not on concrete but something more prone
to shrinking and swelling.

I was wondering about that because of something I was just watching on
HGTV (I admit it). They were talking about the backerboard they were
going to us.

I think the only way to solve this is to pull them up to see what's
there. If we buy it, we'll do that anyway. Even in our house where
we live now we have painted concrete floors and I think that would be
ideal at a lake house.

Thanks, folks!

Brad

BradMM wrote:
It's unlikely tiles will "buckle" however the underlayment is likely the
problem. Likely those tiles are not on concrete but something more prone
to shrinking and swelling.

I was wondering about that because of something I was just watching on
HGTV (I admit it). They were talking about the backerboard they were
going to us.

I think the only way to solve this is to pull them up to see what's
there. If we buy it, we'll do that anyway. Even in our house where
we live now we have painted concrete floors and I think that would be
ideal at a lake house.

Thanks, folks!

Brad


Underlayment might swell, causing tile to shift. Tile obviously will
not buckle, it might crack. Photos might help, and if there is a major
problem with the slab, there likely would be cracks apparent at the
perimiter.

On Jun 19, 1:51*pm, BradMM wrote:
Looking at lakefront property that we know is in the flood plain. *The
small house was built in 1955 out of cinder blocks. *The realtor says
this happens every 4-5 years. *Most of value is in the lot but my
question is about the 12x12 ceramic tiles that are buckling. *Would
this likely be due to slab shrinking and swelling because of the
water?

Thanks,

Brad

If there are no signs of subsidence the most likely reason is a faulty
water resisting membrane under the slab. In a 50's house it may just
be a coat of tar within the concrete slab.,
Damp penetration will cause tiles to lift. The other thing is that
the tile adhesives were not as good in days of yore. In the latter
case they tend to come up in trafficed areas. (ie in doorways & the
like)
Damp penetration can be seasonal or rain dependent or water table
dependent. To tell if you've got it, tape a bit of polythene onto the
bare concrete floor. In a few days damp (if it's there) will show
under this.

On 6/19/2010 12:09 PM, wrote:
BradMM wrote:
It's unlikely tiles will "buckle" however the underlayment is likely the
problem. Likely those tiles are not on concrete but something more prone
to shrinking and swelling.

I was wondering about that because of something I was just watching on
HGTV (I admit it). They were talking about the backerboard they were
going to us.

I think the only way to solve this is to pull them up to see what's
there. If we buy it, we'll do that anyway. Even in our house where
we live now we have painted concrete floors and I think that would be
ideal at a lake house.

Thanks, folks!

Brad


Underlayment might swell, causing tile to shift. Tile obviously will not
buckle, it might crack. Photos might help, and if there is a major
problem with the slab, there likely would be cracks apparent at the
perimiter.


But if they are buckled up, shouldn't be too hard to remove them all. 45
degree angle and a running start. Might be a bit harder getting that goo
underneath off and level. I've used the "ice breaker" for just this
purpose...