I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know about
all the quick change extensions? I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
extension or not? I almost always do.

Steve

Steve B wrote:
I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case,
they are chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't
they know about all the quick change extensions? I have used just a
bit in a pinch, but many times, the chuck runs into the wood or
something else. Plus there is no slider to hold the screws until
they get started. Do you use an extension or not? I almost always
do.

I do once in a blue moon.

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they
are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know
about
all the quick change extensions? I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
extension or not? I almost always do.

Steve



On those few times where I use a Phillips and am not installing drywall, I
use a 6" shaft. For Drywall I use a 2" dimpler bit.

99% of the screws, toggles or tapcons that I install are 1/4 hex head and I
use a 6" shaft for those also to protect the brackets.

Currently I just chuck them in the chuck. Next drill, if there is one will
have a dedicated quick change for 1/4 hex shaft.


--
Colbyt
Please come visit http://www.househomerepair.com

"Steve B" wrote:

I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know about
all the quick change extensions? I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
extension or not? I almost always do.

Almost always use an extension. I have a 4" one with a slider, but
I'm not crazy about it. Usually just use a 2-3" magnetic one with a
smooth shaft. It seems to be better balanced, it hold screws, and it
is quick to change out bits. [I'm still using a lot of Philips heads-
and think the magnet holds them straighter than the square drive.
Makes driving screws in odd places easier.]

Jim

On Apr 14, 4:46*pm, "Colbyt" wrote:
"Steve B" wrote in message

...

I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. *In almost every case, they
are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. *Why is that? *Don't they know
about
all the quick change extensions? *I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. *Plus there is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. *Do you use an
extension or not? *I almost always do.

Steve

On those few times where I use a Phillips and am not installing drywall, I
use a 6" shaft. For Drywall I use a 2" dimpler bit.

99% of the screws, toggles or tapcons that I install are 1/4 hex head and I
use a 6" shaft for those also to protect the brackets.

Currently I just chuck them in the chuck. *Next drill, if there is one will
have a dedicated quick change for 1/4 hex shaft.

--
Colbyt
Please come visithttp://www.househomerepair.com

Why do the watches for sale in magazines always read 10 minutes past
ten?
Joe G

GROVER wrote:
On Apr 14, 4:46 pm, "Colbyt" wrote:

"Steve B" wrote in message

...


I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they
are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know
about
all the quick change extensions? I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
extension or not? I almost always do.

Steve

On those few times where I use a Phillips and am not installing drywall, I
use a 6" shaft. For Drywall I use a 2" dimpler bit.

99% of the screws, toggles or tapcons that I install are 1/4 hex head and I
use a 6" shaft for those also to protect the brackets.

Currently I just chuck them in the chuck. Next drill, if there is one will
have a dedicated quick change for 1/4 hex shaft.

--
Colbyt
Please come visithttp://www.househomerepair.com


Why do the watches for sale in magazines always read 10 minutes past
ten?
Joe G


Because that gives the hands a pleasing symmetrical look, as does 20
minutes after eight.

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

Steve B wrote:
I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know about
all the quick change extensions?
(snip)

If the advertisement shows an extension, folks will think they're paying
for one when they buy the drill.

"Mike Paulsen" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they
are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know
about
all the quick change extensions?
(snip)

If the advertisement shows an extension, folks will think they're paying
for one when they buy the drill.

I will admit that I have used just a bit, but it was when I could not find
an extension. And I have screwed up several times when just using a bit, as
it seems to make the drill a little jumpy because it is so stubby. Hard to
see if the bit is engaged fully or even decently in the head.

I like the sliders, especially when doing long screws, as you can pull out
the slider, slip in the long screw, and jam it to get it started, and the
tip doesn't run off the head, or the screw doesn't go flying.

It just makes the users of these drills look so inexperienced, and I am
surprised at how many of them are on the home improvement channels shows.
But if you watch those shows, the people aren't that experienced, and the
results aren't that spectacular, and look like they're going to come to
pieces quickly. Especially that stuff they build for outside. Don't know
about your house, but here, just a few freeze/thaw cycles, and all that
particleboard would be back to particles.

Steve

Why do the watches for sale in magazines always read 10 minutes past
ten?
Joe G


Because that gives the hands a pleasing symmetrical look, as does 20
minutes after eight.

Jeff


I thought the 8:20 PM convention came from the time of day that
Lincoln was assassinated. Urban legend, maybe.

Steve B wrote:
"Mike Paulsen" wrote in message
...
Steve B wrote:
I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they
are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know
about
all the quick change extensions?
(snip)

If the advertisement shows an extension, folks will think they're paying
for one when they buy the drill.

I will admit that I have used just a bit, but it was when I could not find
an extension.
(snip)

I'm with you there. The only time I don't use a bit holder is when I
don't have room to use one.

It just makes the users of these drills look so inexperienced, and I am
surprised at how many of them are on the home improvement channels shows.

I was only guessing at a reason they might be absent from advertisements.

I haven't seen a home improvement show in a long, long time. If you know
a trade and you see how badly they screw that part up, it's hard to have
confidence that anything they're doing is correct.

Steve B wrote:
I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know about
all the quick change extensions? I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
extension or not? I almost always do.

Steve


Use what you need and like.

--
LSMFT

I'm trying to think but nothing happens.........

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they
are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know
about
all the quick change extensions? I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
extension or not? I almost always do.

Steve



I use a quick change holder and appropriate bit. Often, I have one drill
with drill bit for the pilot holes or a counterbore, the other with the
driver. Rarely use the slider as it is not really needed with a pilot hole
and countersink.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:13:57 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else.

My Bosch drill has a 'slip' collar on the chuck. If the chuck contacts
wood or other material, it just slips. No damage from a turning chuck.

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:13:57 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know about
all the quick change extensions?

They do, but if they put a picture of something they don't include,
they will have to label it "serving suggestion" or something.

Hmmm. Do they include the bit?

I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
extension or not? I almost always do.

Steve

"mm" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:13:57 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they
are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know
about
all the quick change extensions?

They do, but if they put a picture of something they don't include,
they will have to label it "serving suggestion" or something.

Hmmm. Do they include the bit?

One of mine did. They are in a clamp right on the drill case. One Phillips,
one blade.

Steve B wrote:
I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know about
all the quick change extensions? I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
extension or not? I almost always do.

Steve


It's just you.


--
LSMFT

I'm trying to think but nothing happens.........

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they
are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know
about
all the quick change extensions? I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
extension or not? I almost always do.

Steve



You're confusing marketing with reality.

"Joe" wrote in message
. ..

"Steve B" wrote in message
...
I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they
are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know
about
all the quick change extensions? I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there
is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
extension or not? I almost always do.

Steve



You're confusing marketing with reality.

Which one are you having problems keeping up with?

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:13:57 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:

I see lots of ads on TV for cordless drills. In almost every case, they are
chucked up to a simple #2 Phillips bit. Why is that? Don't they know about
all the quick change extensions? I have used just a bit in a pinch, but
many times, the chuck runs into the wood or something else. Plus there is
no slider to hold the screws until they get started. Do you use an
extension or not? I almost always do.

BTW, I've used a screwdriver bit without an extension. It works fine
for me. Maybe sometimes it wouldn't, but I only have 4 or 20 screws
to do.

Steve

Zz Yzx wrote:
Why do the watches for sale in magazines always read 10 minutes past
ten?
Joe G


Because that gives the hands a pleasing symmetrical look, as does 20
minutes after eight.

Jeff



I thought the 8:20 PM convention came from the time of day that
Lincoln was assassinated. Urban legend, maybe.


Plenty of stuff on the subject he

http://www.snopes.com/business/market/clockhands.asp

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.