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Grinder question.
Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder.
One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated. |
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Grinder question.
On Jan 11, 10:51*am, terry wrote:
Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder. One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated. Return it, and try the replacement in the store. |
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Grinder question.
If it's an inexpensive made in China piece of junk model, replacing it may
not help. The wheels are out of round, and the replacement wheels are likely out of round. If it were me, I'd go to your local hardware store (NOT Home-Depot, Lowes, or their ilk - they sell the same made in china out of round crap wheels) and see if you can find some good quality wheels for it. I also found that the out of round wheels will wear into a better balanced shape, but it takes a very long time. "terry" wrote in message ... Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder. One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated. |
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Grinder question.
On Jan 11, 11:51*am, terry wrote:
Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder. One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated. "Purchased an *economical* new 8 inch two wheel grinder" Define economical. Something is economical only if it requires a minimum of time or resources necessary for effectiveness. An wobbly grinder may not be very effective, thus making it a better fit for the definition of inexpensive which only deals with cost, not effectiveness. |
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Grinder question.
Zootal wrote the following:
If it's an inexpensive made in China piece of junk model, replacing it may not help. The wheels are out of round, and the replacement wheels are likely out of round. If it were me, I'd go to your local hardware store (NOT Home-Depot, Lowes, or their ilk - they sell the same made in china out of round crap wheels) and see if you can find some good quality wheels for it. Cheap stuff from China is not limited to the big box stores. Much of the stuff I buy in the local independent (not TrueValue or Ace franchises) hardware stores is also made in China, just read the labels.. I also found that the out of round wheels will wear into a better balanced shape, but it takes a very long time. "terry" wrote in message ... Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder. One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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Grinder question.
On Jan 11, 7:51*am, terry wrote:
Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder. One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated. couldn't hurt to "dress" the wheel if it is eccentric. If it is wobbling side-to-side that is another story. grinding wheels aren't meant for a side load, so dressing the wheel from the side is pretty much a no-no. (Yes, I KNOW that people use the sides, but it REALLY isn't a good idea) I had lots of luck just replacing the stock wheels with something of higher quality from Norton. The white wheels work great. They run cooler which helps keep the temper of the tool you are grinding, and they also disintegrate a bit faster (probably last 5 years instead of 10) The wheels came balanced and didn't need dressing. I think they were around $20 each for the 6 inch. But hey, that's cheap compared to a doctor's visit to remove chunks of carborundum from your various body parts. Best of luck! |
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Grinder question.
On Jan 11, 3:14*pm, wrote:
I have a deal that trues up a new or worn wheel. It is a toothed wheel on a sturdy handle and it will tune up a bad grinder wheel in a few seconds. Look around in the tool department. Yup that's what I was thinking off, often called 'Dressing' a grinding wheel? I recall my dad had a large old fashioned tool for dressing or 'truing up' his, large, e.g. 15 inches, slow, 'wet' grindstone. The grinder was 'economically' made in China, and when I went back to exchange it, couple of days into the New Year; out of stock! The clerk also let it slip that others were purchasing replacement wheels! All the advice much appreciated, thank you. |
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On Jan 11, 3:35*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:23:59 -0800 (PST), xparatrooper wrote: On Jan 11, 7:51*am, terry wrote: Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder. One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated.. couldn't hurt to "dress" the wheel if it is eccentric. *If it is wobbling side-to-side that is another story. grinding wheels aren't meant for a side load, so dressing the wheel from the side is pretty much a no-no. *(Yes, I KNOW that people use the sides, but it REALLY isn't a good idea) I had lots of luck just replacing the stock wheels with something of higher quality from Norton. *The white wheels work great. *They run cooler which helps keep the temper of the tool you are grinding, and they also disintegrate a bit faster (probably last 5 years instead of 10) The wheels came balanced and didn't need dressing. *I think they were around $20 each for the 6 inch. *But hey, that's cheap compared to a doctor's visit to remove chunks of carborundum** from your various body parts. Best of luck! It might just be a matter of removing the wheels and re-installing them.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - 1) Tried that; slight improvement! 2) BTW that's good commen**t; was wondering about the quality of the carborundum stone wheels! |
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Grinder question.
In article , terry wrote:
Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder. One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. Run it with both wheels off. The vibration should almost entirely disappear, and both shafts should spin true with no hint whatsoever of any wobble. If it fails either of these tests, take it back. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Eventually, yes, but (a) it will take a very long time, and (b) you're doing untold damage to the shaft bearings in the process. Much better to dress the wheels, as others have already described, or to replace them with wheels that will spin true. Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated. |
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Grinder question.
On Jan 11, 10:51*am, terry wrote:
Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder. One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated. If grinder vibrates without a wheel return it, it was not balanced, it will not last like a good balanced unit and could get worse fast if you use it alot. |
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Grinder question.
"willshak" wrote in message ... Zootal wrote the following: If it's an inexpensive made in China piece of junk model, replacing it may not help. The wheels are out of round, and the replacement wheels are likely out of round. If it were me, I'd go to your local hardware store (NOT Home-Depot, Lowes, or their ilk - they sell the same made in china out of round crap wheels) and see if you can find some good quality wheels for it. Cheap stuff from China is not limited to the big box stores. Much of the stuff I buy in the local independent (not TrueValue or Ace franchises) hardware stores is also made in China, just read the labels.. Stanley tools are now made in China. I have a lot of old Stanley tools that were made in USA that I still use. I have a lot of broken newer Stanley tools that were made in China that went into the trash. *All* of my Stanley garden tools broke in less then a year and went into the trash. I'll never buy a Stanley garden tool again. Black&Decker has also gone down the more-profit-crap-tools pathway. Oh how the mighty have fallen! I have a Ryobi made-in-china router table. The guide groove was cut crooked, and the ruler printed along the edge is also crooked and part of it is cut off by the front edge of the table. The guide itself has a left and right side that are adjustable. The left side will not go all of the way back because it is on a warped plastic holder. Because of this, if you are running a piece of wood along the guide, it will catch on the left side. I had to bolt it to the backing and then shim the right side to make them even. I came real close to taking it back, but I had little confidence the replacement would have been any better. Guess that is what I get for buying cheap tools (made in China or not)(but mostly made in China). |
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Grinder question.
"terry" wrote in message ... Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder. One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated. My suggestion is return it to Habor Freight and spend more to buy a good one at another store. Bob-tx |
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Grinder question.
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:51:24 -0800 (PST), terry
wrote: Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder. One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated. I absolutely hate returning merchandise because then I have to admit I made a bad purchase and waste my time with the return. Recently, I took a newly-purchased 8" grinder back to the store due to excessive vibration. I put a gauge on the shaft and it had some runout that was the cause of the wobble. My 20-year old 6" grinder is a lot more stable, and less than 1/2 the cost and NOT made in China. |
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"Phisherman" wrote in message ... On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:51:24 -0800 (PST), terry wrote: Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder. One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated. I absolutely hate returning merchandise because then I have to admit I made a bad purchase and waste my time with the return. Recently, I took a newly-purchased 8" grinder back to the store due to excessive vibration. I put a gauge on the shaft and it had some runout that was the cause of the wobble. My 20-year old 6" grinder is a lot more stable, and less than 1/2 the cost and NOT made in China. A man after my own heart. For inexpensive items, I'll sometimes throw them in the trash instead of bothering to return them. It just isn't worth the time and trouble. And likewise, my 1960 era made in USA grinder works just fine. I'd be willing to bet when my Craftsman made in china grinder finally dies, my old 1960 grinder will still be chugging along. |
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Zootal wrote the following:
"Phisherman" wrote in message ... On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:51:24 -0800 (PST), terry wrote: Purchased an economical new 8 inch two wheel grinder. One wheel (the coarser one) is slightly eccentric or has a slight variation or wobble. And there is vibration. More so than my older six inch grinder. But am wondering if, with use, the the coarse wheel will 'wear' into a better balance? Any advice before deciding to return the purchase would be appreciated. I absolutely hate returning merchandise because then I have to admit I made a bad purchase and waste my time with the return. Recently, I took a newly-purchased 8" grinder back to the store due to excessive vibration. I put a gauge on the shaft and it had some runout that was the cause of the wobble. My 20-year old 6" grinder is a lot more stable, and less than 1/2 the cost and NOT made in China. A man after my own heart. For inexpensive items, I'll sometimes throw them in the trash instead of bothering to return them. It just isn't worth the time and trouble. And likewise, my 1960 era made in USA grinder works just fine. I'd be willing to bet when my Craftsman made in china grinder finally dies, my old 1960 grinder will still be chugging along. How many times have I wished that I had all the money that I wasted over the course of my life. That includes the beer, cigarettes, the snake oil remedies, impulse bought items, and other crap. -- Bill In Hamptonburgh, NY In the original Orange County. Est. 1683 To email, remove the double zeroes after @ |
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