I don't know if this typical for CFL's or for one particular brand.

I replaced 3 incandescent bulbs with 3 CFL's and they all burned up
within 6 months.

The bathroom is small and it has no working exhaust fan.
Has anyone else seen this problem?

Thanks

"Andy" wrote in message
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I don't know if this typical for CFL's or for one particular brand.

I replaced 3 incandescent bulbs with 3 CFL's and they all burned up
within 6 months.

The bathroom is small and it has no working exhaust fan.
Has anyone else seen this problem?

Thanks

Could be that brand or batch. I've not seen the problem and I've had them in
some nasty environments both moisture and temperature wise. The frequent on
and off cycles may be a factor too.

Can't hurt to crack the door or window open when you shower also.

"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
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"Andy" wrote in message
...
I don't know if this typical for CFL's or for one particular brand.

I replaced 3 incandescent bulbs with 3 CFL's and they all burned up
within 6 months.

The bathroom is small and it has no working exhaust fan.
Has anyone else seen this problem?

Thanks

Could be that brand or batch. I've not seen the problem and I've had them
in some nasty environments both moisture and temperature wise. The
frequent on and off cycles may be a factor too.

Can't hurt to crack the door or window open when you shower also.


I have had them in my bath with no problems...Same for the ones outside...

On Sep 13, 10:17*am, wrote:
On Sun, 13 Sep 2009 00:12:47 -0400, "benick"
wrote:





"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in message
m...

"Andy" wrote in message
....
I don't know if this typical for CFL's or for one particular brand.

I replaced 3 incandescent bulbs with 3 CFL's and they all burned up
within 6 months.

The bathroom is small and it has no working exhaust fan.
Has anyone else seen this problem?

Thanks

Could be that brand or batch. I've not seen the problem and I've had them
in some nasty environments both moisture and temperature wise. *The
frequent on and off cycles may be a factor too.

Can't hurt to crack the door or window open when you shower also.

I have had them in my bath with no problems...Same for the ones outside....

Same here. The one in my post light is getting beat up pretty bad if
humidity and lots of on/off cycles kill them. (motion detector).
2 years and counting.

A CFL in my mother's covered porch light went out in less than 6
months, but it was in a class covered fixture.
I removed the bottom panel to lower the temperature and hopefully
increase it's life span.

Now I won't have to clean out dead bugs anymore. :-)

Andy

In ,
Andy wrote:

I don't know if this typical for CFL's or for one particular brand.

I replaced 3 incandescent bulbs with 3 CFL's and they all burned up
within 6 months.

The bathroom is small and it has no working exhaust fan.
Has anyone else seen this problem?

There are a few reasons this may occur, and I think humidity is less
likely to be the problem. My suspects a

1. CFLs can overheat in small enclosed fixtures and in downlights,
especially recessed ceiling fixtures (which I call "heat hellholes
for CFLs").
This is a problem mainly to integral-ballast CFLs (includes all
common screw base ones) 15 watts or more. There are ones rated for
use in recessed fixtures, including Philips SLS ("triple arch"
Marathon) non-dimmable up to 23 watts. There are even snap-on
reflectors for these in R30 and R40 sizes.

If you cannot get or use Philips "triple arch", you can try using
a lower wattage and/or CFLs of a "Big 3" brand (GE, Philips,
Sylvania), especially ones with the limited warranty.

2. I have experienced above-average rate of premature failures with
CFLs of the Lights of America brand and of brands that I see mainly
in dollar stores.

3. Although several short on-off cycles per day should not kill CFLs
within a year, a very large number of on-off cycles per day can
kill some in a matter of months. Ones that are true instant start
suffer more wear per start than ones that take half a second or so
to turn on. (This is unrelated to time to warm up once it comes on.)

- Don Klipstein )

Don Klipstein wrote:
In ,
Andy wrote:

I don't know if this typical for CFL's or for one particular brand.

I replaced 3 incandescent bulbs with 3 CFL's and they all burned up
within 6 months.

The bathroom is small and it has no working exhaust fan.
Has anyone else seen this problem?

There are a few reasons this may occur, and I think humidity is less
likely to be the problem. My suspects a

1. CFLs can overheat in small enclosed fixtures and in downlights,
especially recessed ceiling fixtures (which I call "heat hellholes
for CFLs").
This is a problem mainly to integral-ballast CFLs (includes all
common screw base ones) 15 watts or more. There are ones rated for
use in recessed fixtures, including Philips SLS ("triple arch"
Marathon) non-dimmable up to 23 watts. There are even snap-on
reflectors for these in R30 and R40 sizes.

If you cannot get or use Philips "triple arch", you can try using
a lower wattage and/or CFLs of a "Big 3" brand (GE, Philips,
Sylvania), especially ones with the limited warranty.

2. I have experienced above-average rate of premature failures with
CFLs of the Lights of America brand and of brands that I see mainly
in dollar stores.

3. Although several short on-off cycles per day should not kill CFLs
within a year, a very large number of on-off cycles per day can
kill some in a matter of months. Ones that are true instant start
suffer more wear per start than ones that take half a second or so
to turn on. (This is unrelated to time to warm up once it comes on.)

- Don Klipstein )
Thanks

On Sep 12, 11:58*pm, (Don Klipstein) wrote:
In ,

Andy wrote:
I don't know if this typical for CFL's or for one particular brand.

I replaced 3 incandescent bulbs with 3 CFL's and they all burned up
within 6 months.

The bathroom is small and it has no working exhaust fan.
Has anyone else seen this problem?

* There are a few reasons this may occur, and I think humidity is less
likely to be the problem. *My suspects a

1. * *CFLs can overheat in small enclosed fixtures and in downlights,
* * especially recessed ceiling fixtures (which I call "heat hellholes
* * for CFLs").
* * * This is a problem mainly to integral-ballast CFLs (includes all
* * common screw base ones) 15 watts or more. *There are ones rated for
* * use in recessed fixtures, including Philips SLS ("triple arch"
* * Marathon) non-dimmable up to 23 watts. *There are even snap-on
* * reflectors for these in R30 and R40 sizes.

* * * If you cannot get or use Philips "triple arch", you can try using
* * a lower wattage and/or CFLs of a "Big 3" brand (GE, Philips,
* * Sylvania), especially ones with the limited warranty.

2. * *I have experienced above-average rate of premature failures with
* * CFLs of the Lights of America brand and of brands that I see mainly
* * in dollar stores.

3. * *Although several short on-off cycles per day should not kill CFLs
* * within a year, a very large number of on-off cycles per day can
* * kill some in a matter of months. *Ones that are true instant start
* * suffer more wear per start than ones that take half a second or so
* * to turn on. *(This is unrelated to time to warm up once it comes on.)

*- Don Klipstein )

Thanks for the info.

The bulbs had complete circulation as they hung down from the socket.

I will try your recommended brands.

I asked the manager of Lowe's if they had bulbs rated for a moist
environment. He said that all they had was spotlight CFLs.

He then gave me a free N:vision 75W CFL that has a 9 year warranty.
He said that sometimes the manufactures make a bad batch.

Andy