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HeyBub[_3_] August 11th 09 03:25 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb



Ulysses August 11th 09 04:06 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...
Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy

Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb



I already live on a perpetual motion machine.



Tony Sivori August 11th 09 04:09 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
HeyBub wrote:

Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy
Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual
motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating
completely free electrical energy, which can fully power your home for
free. A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine that runs
perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger amount of energy
than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy indefinitely, runs by
itself, without having to need a third-party device or resource to power
it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


I'll be needing a lot of energy for a very long time, so I purchased two
copies of the plans.

--
Tony Sivori
Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters.

Bob F August 11th 09 04:33 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Tony Sivori wrote:
HeyBub wrote:

Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy
Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual
motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus
creating completely free electrical energy, which can fully power
your home for free. A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine
that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger
amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy
indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a third-party
device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


I'll be needing a lot of energy for a very long time, so I purchased
two copies of the plans.


LOL! That's about how stupid someone would have to be.



jeff_wisnia August 11th 09 06:39 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
HeyBub wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb




"Who is John Galt?"

To my dismay, more and more of the things Ayn Rand prophesied back in
1957 in her novel "Atlas Shrugged" are happening right now.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Galt

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

David Nebenzahl August 11th 09 07:22 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
On 8/11/2009 10:39 AM jeff_wisnia spake thus:

HeyBub wrote:

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


"Who is John Galt?"


Actually, if you check over on ba.transportation, he regularly posts
there (as "John David Galt"), much to the amusement of many regulars,
myself included.


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

AZ Nomad[_2_] August 11th 09 07:28 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 09:25:10 -0500, HeyBub wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:


"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."


The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....


http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb



The only thing that works on it is the transfer of money from fools to
magniwork.com.

[email protected][_2_] August 11th 09 07:29 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
On Aug 11, 9:25*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produceso
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


If everyone were to go this Route, the local electric utilities would
go out of business, and I dont want to see more people loose thier
jobs . Paying for electricity is a good thing just like paying our
taxes are. Instead of looking for ways to get free this and that , we
should be looking at ways of increasing our income level to meet
demands. That way everybody is helping one another out. If your
electric rates go up substantially, then simply ask your Employer if
you can work a couple hours more per week for added pay. How come
this philosophy is never discussed then ?

dpb August 11th 09 09:40 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Ulysses wrote:
....
I already live on a perpetual motion machine.


Eh???

--

Larry The Snake Guy August 12th 09 12:37 AM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
On Aug 11, 4:40*pm, dpb wrote:
Ulysses wrote:

I already live on a perpetual motion machine.


Eh???


Well, it'll probably still be moving when the sun explodes, so I guess
that's close to perpetual motion.

dpb August 12th 09 12:48 AM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Larry The Snake Guy wrote:
On Aug 11, 4:40 pm, dpb wrote:
Ulysses wrote:

I already live on a perpetual motion machine.

Eh???


Well, it'll probably still be moving when the sun explodes, so I guess
that's close to perpetual motion.


Actually it's no "closer" than any other process--it follows same
thermodynamic laws--it's just that the losses are relatively small with
respect to the total mass. It (assuming the reference is to the earth I
presume) _is_ slowing measurably albeit granted it's on a relatively
long time frame.

--

Tony Hwang August 12th 09 02:34 AM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
HeyBub wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


Hmmm,
Whoever trying to gouge 49.00, does not even understand the very basic
law of energy conservation? Good thing he did not claim he can turn lead
into gold, LOL!

Red Green August 12th 09 04:10 AM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
"HeyBub" wrote in
m:

Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy
Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual
motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus
creating completely free electrical energy, which can fully power your
home for free. A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine that runs
perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger amount of energy
than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy indefinitely, runs by
itself, without having to need a third-party device or resource to
power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb



Well, I didn't even look at the link because:

Why would you be conning 49 out of people if you had such a device?
Why hasn't the gvmt seized this device/plans in the interest of national
security?
Why would they sell it for 49 when an energy compay would pay 5B for it
so they could squash it to protect their revenue?

Kinda like washed-up Tom Bosley pitching how you can make 25/50k a month
selling dust collectors for shelves but he gets a crummy few hundred for
doing the commercial.

Harry K August 12th 09 04:35 AM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
On Aug 11, 8:09*am, Tony Sivori wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:


"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy
Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual
motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating
completely free electrical energy, which can fully power your home for
free. A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine that runs
perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger amount of energy
than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy indefinitely, runs by
itself, without having to need a third-party device or resource to power
it."


The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....


http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


I'll be needing a lot of energy for a very long time, so I purchased two
copies of the plans.

--
Tony Sivori
Due to spam, I'm filtering all Google Groups posters.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


2 copies? Wow! I heard that if they are installed close to each
other the efficiency increases greatly until you don't even need the
machine, just the space they were in.

Harry K

zxcvbob August 12th 09 04:44 AM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
HeyBub wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb



I think Homer said it best:
"And this perpetual motion machine she [Lisa] made today is a joke! It
just keeps going faster and faster." —Homer Simpson

Bob

Smitty Two August 12th 09 05:19 AM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

HeyBub wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy
Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb



I think Homer said it best:
"And this perpetual motion machine she [Lisa] made today is a joke! It
just keeps going faster and faster." ‹Homer Simpson

Bob


Y'all can laugh at over-unity all you want, I still think I'm gonna live
long enough to see nuclear fusion ...

Tony Hwang August 12th 09 05:27 AM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
zxcvbob wrote:

HeyBub wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy
Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


I think Homer said it best:
"And this perpetual motion machine she [Lisa] made today is a joke! It
just keeps going faster and faster." ‹Homer Simpson

Bob


Y'all can laugh at over-unity all you want, I still think I'm gonna live
long enough to see nuclear fusion ...

Hi,
Never know. How many elements are on todays periodic chart? ~300? If you
try 4 at a time with different combinations, that will be in the
billions. Some where there, it's a STRONG possibility.

Thomas August 12th 09 01:25 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Here is my original idea:

For $49 I can turn your lead into gold.

:)

HeyBub[_3_] August 12th 09 01:51 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Red Green wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in
m:

Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy
Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual
motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus
creating completely free electrical energy, which can fully power
your home for free. A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine
that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger
amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy
indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a third-party
device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb



Well, I didn't even look at the link because:

Why would you be conning 49 out of people if you had such a device?
Why hasn't the gvmt seized this device/plans in the interest of
national security?
Why would they sell it for 49 when an energy compay would pay 5B for
it so they could squash it to protect their revenue?

Kinda like washed-up Tom Bosley pitching how you can make 25/50k a
month selling dust collectors for shelves but he gets a crummy few
hundred for doing the commercial.


Had you read the information at the link, you would not be asking such a
silly question!

The inventor claims a wide-spread conspiracy involving the energy business
and government regulators to suppress the ideas he has discovered. While he
does not go so far as to predict his own disappearance, he does suggest you
embrace his ideas before he and everything involved is erased.



Harry K August 12th 09 03:16 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
On Aug 12, 5:34*am, Van Chocstraw
wrote:
HeyBub wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:


"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."


The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....


http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


I have a lawn mower motor that runs on air to sell you.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


No fair. MDI has the patent on that. Just check out the hype about
the 'air car'.

Harry K

BobR August 12th 09 04:02 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
On Aug 11, 9:25*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


All of the known rules of physics say that this is impossible but all
of the "known" rules of physics have been wrong before so who is to
say. In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic
forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without
any outside source of power. The problem is in finding a material
that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material
exists. So if you have an extra $50 that you just want throw down the
slot machine, it is probably as good a bet as anything. Personally, I
don't think I have the money to gamble on odds that bad.

Zz Yzx August 12th 09 04:12 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
To my dismay, more and more of the things Ayn Rand prophesied back in
1957 in her novel "Atlas Shrugged" are happening right now.


Try reading John Brunner's "Stand on Zanzibar"

-Zz

Zz Yzx August 12th 09 04:16 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Hi,
Never know. How many elements are on todays periodic chart? ~300?


I think 117; they may have added one ortwo recently.

-Zz

Bob F August 12th 09 04:49 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
HeyBub wrote:

Why would you be conning 49 out of people if you had such a device?
Why hasn't the gvmt seized this device/plans in the interest of
national security?
Why would they sell it for 49 when an energy compay would pay 5B for
it so they could squash it to protect their revenue?

Kinda like washed-up Tom Bosley pitching how you can make 25/50k a
month selling dust collectors for shelves but he gets a crummy few
hundred for doing the commercial.


Had you read the information at the link, you would not be asking
such a silly question!

The inventor claims a wide-spread conspiracy involving the energy
business and government regulators to suppress the ideas he has
discovered. While he does not go so far as to predict his own
disappearance, he does suggest you embrace his ideas before he and
everything involved is erased.


No one will miss him.



Bob F August 12th 09 04:51 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Thomas wrote:
Here is my original idea:

For $49 I can turn your lead into gold.


For $39, I can turn your gold into lead.

It'll look just like wheel balancing weights.



Bob F August 12th 09 04:57 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
BobR wrote:
On Aug 11, 9:25 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy
Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual
motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus
creating completely free electrical energy, which can fully power
your home for free. A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine
that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger
amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy
indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a third-party
device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


All of the known rules of physics say that this is impossible but all
of the "known" rules of physics have been wrong before so who is to
say. In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic
forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without
any outside source of power. The problem is in finding a material
that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material
exists.


Energy cannot just be created from nothing. Such tricks only work in the mind of
Escher.

So if you have an extra $50 that you just want throw down the
slot machine, it is probably as good a bet as anything.


Naaahhh.



Winston August 12th 09 05:55 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Smitty Two wrote:

(...)

Y'all can laugh at over-unity all you want, I still think I'm gonna live
long enough to see nuclear fusion ...


Please don't look at it directly.

http://www.solarviews.com/raw/sun/sun.jpg

--Winston

Red Green August 12th 09 06:01 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
"HeyBub" wrote in
m:

Red Green wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in
m:

Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy
Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual
motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus
creating completely free electrical energy, which can fully power
your home for free. A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine
that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger
amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy
indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a third-party
device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb



Well, I didn't even look at the link because:

Why would you be conning 49 out of people if you had such a device?
Why hasn't the gvmt seized this device/plans in the interest of
national security?
Why would they sell it for 49 when an energy compay would pay 5B for
it so they could squash it to protect their revenue?

Kinda like washed-up Tom Bosley pitching how you can make 25/50k a
month selling dust collectors for shelves but he gets a crummy few
hundred for doing the commercial.


Had you read the information at the link, you would not be asking such
a silly question!


Guilty!!!!


The inventor claims a wide-spread conspiracy involving the energy
business and government regulators to suppress the ideas he has
discovered. While he does not go so far as to predict his own
disappearance, he does suggest you embrace his ideas before he and
everything involved is erased.




Red Green August 12th 09 06:03 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
"Bob F" wrote in -
september.org:

Thomas wrote:
Here is my original idea:

For $49 I can turn your lead into gold.


For $39, I can turn your gold into lead.

It'll look just like wheel balancing weights.



If only Billy May had lived:-( We could get both for 19.95 + separate s&h.

Smitty Two August 12th 09 06:56 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
In article ,
Winston wrote:

Smitty Two wrote:

(...)

Y'all can laugh at over-unity all you want, I still think I'm gonna live
long enough to see nuclear fusion ...


Please don't look at it directly.

http://www.solarviews.com/raw/sun/sun.jpg

--Winston


Now we just need an electrical transmission line 93 million miles long,
heat-insulated at one end.

Winston August 12th 09 08:45 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
Winston wrote:

Smitty Two wrote:

(...)

Y'all can laugh at over-unity all you want, I still think I'm gonna live
long enough to see nuclear fusion ...

Please don't look at it directly.

http://www.solarviews.com/raw/sun/sun.jpg

--Winston


Now we just need an electrical transmission line 93 million miles long,
heat-insulated at one end.


*I know!* Let's convert the sun's energy at the point
of origination into some kind of electromagnetically
transmissible form. I'm thinking perhaps broadband
radiation, bounded by IR and UV plus some gamma just
to keep things from getting too staid.

We could use the IR directly for space heat and for
domestic hot water. We could grow some photosynthetic
entities using the higher frequency radiation.
We could eat some of the entities and convert others
to biogas for storage and power.

Is that too "over the top"?

:)

--Winston

David Nebenzahl August 12th 09 08:58 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
On 8/12/2009 12:45 PM Winston spake thus:

Smitty Two wrote:

In article ,
Winston wrote:

Smitty Two wrote:

(...)

Y'all can laugh at over-unity all you want, I still think I'm gonna live
long enough to see nuclear fusion ...
Please don't look at it directly.

http://www.solarviews.com/raw/sun/sun.jpg


Now we just need an electrical transmission line 93 million miles long,
heat-insulated at one end.


*I know!* Let's convert the sun's energy at the point
of origination into some kind of electromagnetically
transmissible form. I'm thinking perhaps broadband
radiation, bounded by IR and UV plus some gamma just
to keep things from getting too staid.

We could use the IR directly for space heat and for
domestic hot water. We could grow some photosynthetic
entities using the higher frequency radiation.
We could eat some of the entities and convert others
to biogas for storage and power.

Is that too "over the top"?


Nope, not at all.

When I was an anti-nuclear activist, many moons ago, I used to say
"Fusion power? Sure; we've already got it. World's greatest fusion
reactor, at a safe distance of 93 million miles. Go out there and tap
into it!"


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

Ulysses August 12th 09 09:21 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 

"dpb" wrote in message
...
Larry The Snake Guy wrote:
On Aug 11, 4:40 pm, dpb wrote:
Ulysses wrote:

I already live on a perpetual motion machine.
Eh???


Well, it'll probably still be moving when the sun explodes, so I guess
that's close to perpetual motion.


Actually it's no "closer" than any other process--it follows same
thermodynamic laws--it's just that the losses are relatively small with
respect to the total mass. It (assuming the reference is to the earth I
presume) _is_ slowing measurably albeit granted it's on a relatively
long time frame.

--


Well, maybe it's not pure perpetual motion, but it'll probably keep going
longer than anyone will be around to see it finally stop. In any case,
without visiting the link, I'm pretty sure it's closer than what they have.



Ulysses August 12th 09 09:28 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 

"BobR" wrote in message
...
On Aug 11, 9:25 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy

Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


All of the known rules of physics say that this is impossible but all
of the "known" rules of physics have been wrong before so who is to
say. In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic
forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without
any outside source of power. The problem is in finding a material
that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material
exists.

It was invented in the 50's. It's called Flubber. But nobody took it
seriously.




Winston August 12th 09 11:10 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
David Nebenzahl wrote:

(...)

When I was an anti-nuclear activist, many moons ago, I used to say
"Fusion power? Sure; we've already got it. World's greatest fusion
reactor, at a safe distance of 93 million miles. Go out there and tap
into it!"


Right on Dave!

:)

--Winston

Bob F August 12th 09 11:49 PM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Ulysses wrote:
"BobR" wrote in message
...
On Aug 11, 9:25 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Amazing what one can find on the web:

"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy
Generator. It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual
motion. It runs by itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus
creating completely free electrical energy, which can fully power
your home for free. A Perpetual motion device refers to a machine
that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely, and produces a larger
amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces free energy
indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a third-party
device or resource to power it."

The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....

http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


All of the known rules of physics say that this is impossible but all
of the "known" rules of physics have been wrong before so who is to
say. In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic
forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without
any outside source of power. The problem is in finding a material
that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material
exists.

It was invented in the 50's. It's called Flubber. But nobody took it
seriously.


I thought that blocked gravity. Seems like that would work a lot better than
something that blocks magnetism.

What should I sell my plans for?



Red Green August 13th 09 12:36 AM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Smitty Two wrote in
:

In article ,
Winston wrote:

Smitty Two wrote:

(...)

Y'all can laugh at over-unity all you want, I still think I'm gonna
live long enough to see nuclear fusion ...


Please don't look at it directly.

http://www.solarviews.com/raw/sun/sun.jpg

--Winston


Now we just need an electrical transmission line 93 million miles
long, heat-insulated at one end.



heat-insulated at one end.


They make a duct tape for that :-)

HeyBub[_3_] August 13th 09 01:21 AM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
Smitty Two wrote:

Now we just need an electrical transmission line 93 million miles
long, heat-insulated at one end.


Not if we go at night.



Smitty Two August 13th 09 01:44 AM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
In article ,
Winston wrote:

Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,
Winston wrote:

Smitty Two wrote:

(...)

Y'all can laugh at over-unity all you want, I still think I'm gonna live
long enough to see nuclear fusion ...
Please don't look at it directly.

http://www.solarviews.com/raw/sun/sun.jpg

--Winston


Now we just need an electrical transmission line 93 million miles long,
heat-insulated at one end.


*I know!* Let's convert the sun's energy at the point
of origination into some kind of electromagnetically
transmissible form. I'm thinking perhaps broadband
radiation, bounded by IR and UV plus some gamma just
to keep things from getting too staid.

We could use the IR directly for space heat and for
domestic hot water. We could grow some photosynthetic
entities using the higher frequency radiation.
We could eat some of the entities and convert others
to biogas for storage and power.

Is that too "over the top"?



That'd never work.

Harry K August 13th 09 04:45 AM

Perpetual motion - free energy
 
On Aug 12, 8:02*am, BobR wrote:
On Aug 11, 9:25*am, "HeyBub" wrote:

Amazing what one can find on the web:


"A Zero point magnetic power generator is basically a Free Energy Generator.
It uses magnets, and magnetic force to induce perpetual motion. It runs by
itself, indefinitely without stopping, thus creating completely free
electrical energy, which can fully power your home for free. A Perpetual
motion device refers to a machine that runs perpetually i.e. indefinitely,
and produces a larger amount of energy than it consumes. Thus, it produces
free energy indefinitely, runs by itself, without having to need a
third-party device or resource to power it."


The plans are only $49.00, but if you order today....


http://www.magniwork.com/default.php?hop=jackiegb


All of the known rules of physics say that this is impossible but all
of the "known" rules of physics have been wrong before so who is to
say. *In theory if you could find a material that would block magnetic
forces, you could in fact create a machine that power itself without
any outside source of power. *The problem is in finding a material
that can block magnetic fields and to my knowledge no such material
exists. *So if you have an extra $50 that you just want throw down the
slot machine, it is probably as good a bet as anything. *Personally, I
don't think I have the money to gamble on odds that bad.


The machine actually works _IF_ you can get that last magnet
positioned juuusssttt right. You need to hold your tongue in just the
right position. That noone has managed to do that yet...

Harry K


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