I am about to replace the water control SmartValve in an American Standard
Champion toilet. (The waterflow does not shut off at end of filling up the
tank.) American Standard was good enought to send me a replacement part
(Fluidmaster, adjustable) under warranty coverage, but no instructions
included.

Since I have never done this before, I would like to know if any type of
sealant is required ? and, if so, what should be used and where should it
be applied?

TnX.

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:03:33 -0500, Vince
wrote:


I am about to replace the water control SmartValve in an American Standard
Champion toilet. (The waterflow does not shut off at end of filling up the
tank.) American Standard was good enought to send me a replacement part
(Fluidmaster, adjustable) under warranty coverage, but no instructions
included.

Since I have never done this before, I would like to know if any type of
sealant is required ? and, if so, what should be used and where should it
be applied?

TnX.

No sealant is necessary. Here is a Fluidmaster video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6J0QRBBmvw

"Vince" wrote in message
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I am about to replace the water control SmartValve in an American Standard
Champion toilet. (The waterflow does not shut off at end of filling up the
tank.) American Standard was good enought to send me a replacement part
(Fluidmaster, adjustable) under warranty coverage, but no instructions
included.

Since I have never done this before, I would like to know if any type of
sealant is required ? and, if so, what should be used and where should it
be applied?

TnX.


Look in the box again-- they put a detailed instruction sheet in...

On 6/26/2009 1:47 PM Oren spake thus:

On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:03:33 -0500, Vince
wrote:

I am about to replace the water control SmartValve in an American Standard
Champion toilet. (The waterflow does not shut off at end of filling up the
tank.) American Standard was good enought to send me a replacement part
(Fluidmaster, adjustable) under warranty coverage, but no instructions
included.

Since I have never done this before, I would like to know if any type of
sealant is required ? and, if so, what should be used and where should it
be applied?

No sealant is necessary. Here is a Fluidmaster video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6J0QRBBmvw

Not only no sealants, but I believe no tools are required either (all
connections are supposed to only be finger-tight).


--
Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 14:04:46 -0500, Vince
wrote:

The replacement Fluidmaster is now installed. A slow drip/leak is one
problem. I do not yet know if the leak is from water within the tank or
from the coupling at the water feedline outside the tank. A rigid section
of tubing is used between the wall shutoff valve and the tank. I might
need to tighten that coupling some more.


Place a paper towel near, where you think a leak may be (even
overnight).

Drops will show on the paper, even when dry. It gives you a starting
point for slow leaks.

The other problem is that, it seems to me, the water level within the
bowl is not what it was when the original SmartValve was in use. I think
the water valve is closing too soon. I also notice that the water does
not flow through the flexible tube into the overflow stack. Adjustment
of the Fluidmaster "Water Level Adjustment" plastic screw does not help
to raise the water level within the tank to the level that it was when
the original SmartValve was installed.

Any suggestions?


Adjust the float?

http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-rep...uidmaster-3237
"Vince" wrote in message
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Vince wrote in
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I am about to replace the water control SmartValve in an American
Standard Champion toilet. (The waterflow does not shut off at end of
filling up the tank.) American Standard was good enought to send me a
replacement part (Fluidmaster, adjustable) under warranty coverage,
but no instructions included.

Since I have never done this before, I would like to know if any type
of sealant is required ? and, if so, what should be used and where
should it be applied?

TnX.


The replacement Fluidmaster is now installed. A slow drip/leak is one
problem. I do not yet know if the leak is from water within the tank or
from the coupling at the water feedline outside the tank. A rigid section
of tubing is used between the wall shutoff valve and the tank. I might
need to tighten that coupling some more.

The other problem is that, it seems to me, the water level within the
bowl is not what it was when the original SmartValve was in use. I think
the water valve is closing too soon. I also notice that the water does
not flow through the flexible tube into the overflow stack. Adjustment
of the Fluidmaster "Water Level Adjustment" plastic screw does not help
to raise the water level within the tank to the level that it was when
the original SmartValve was installed.

Any suggestions?


http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-rep...uidmaster-3237
http://www.fluidmaster.com/html/pdf/...structions.pdf
--
Peace,
BobJ

"Marilyn & Bob" wrote in
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The other problem is that, it seems to me, the water level within the
bowl is not what it was when the original SmartValve was in use. I
think the water valve is closing too soon. I also notice that the
water does not flow through the flexible tube into the overflow
stack. Adjustment of the Fluidmaster "Water Level Adjustment"
plastic screw does not help to raise the water level within the tank
to the level that it was when the original SmartValve was installed.

Any suggestions?


http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-rep...uidmaster-3237
http://www.fluidmaster.com/html/pdf/...structions.pdf

BobJ:

Thanks for the info. The .pdf instrux helps a great deal. It turns out
that I did not do the float height adjustment. I will have to take it
apart and do that now. Too bad that AmericanStandard did not include any
instrux.


__________________________________________________ _______________________

Looking at the original SmartValve, I am unable to turn the height
adjustment. Is there a locking mechanism that must be undone ?

Should there be waterflow through the flexible tube into the ?Overflow?
stack at the end of the fill cycle ? I think that that would flow into
the bowl until the Fluidmaster valve closes off.

"ViINCE" wrote in message
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"Marilyn & Bob" wrote in
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The other problem is that, it seems to me, the water level within the
bowl is not what it was when the original SmartValve was in use. I
think the water valve is closing too soon. I also notice that the
water does not flow through the flexible tube into the overflow
stack. Adjustment of the Fluidmaster "Water Level Adjustment"
plastic screw does not help to raise the water level within the tank
to the level that it was when the original SmartValve was installed.

Any suggestions?


http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-rep...uidmaster-3237
http://www.fluidmaster.com/html/pdf/...structions.pdf

BobJ:

Thanks for the info. The .pdf instrux helps a great deal. It turns out
that I did not do the float height adjustment. I will have to take it
apart and do that now. Too bad that AmericanStandard did not include any
instrux.


__________________________________________________ _______________________

Looking at the original SmartValve, I am unable to turn the height
adjustment. Is there a locking mechanism that must be undone ?

Should there be waterflow through the flexible tube into the ?Overflow?
stack at the end of the fill cycle ? I think that that would flow into
the bowl until the Fluidmaster valve closes off.

I'm (almost) sure that these item are in the printed (pdf) instructions, but
if not:

There is no locking mechanism. You need to turn it harder. Make sure you
hold the bottom of the tube firmly when you turn the top.

Yes, the flexible tube should go into the overflow tube. There is a clip
that should hold it in place.
--
Peace,
BobJ