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fluidmaster toilet valves again
you may have existing water hammer chambers already installed in your
house that simply are flooded. this website discusses that and how to drain them at: http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/i...infwatham.shtm |
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you may have existing water hammer chambers already installed in your
house that simply are flooded. this website discusses that and how to drain them at: http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/infplumb/infwatham.shtm Tried that. Did not help. Called Fluidmaster. They're sending me the "Whisper valve" version which has restricted flow. Is there any chance the Whisper model WON"T solve the problem? If so, then maybe I should just go ahead and buy the a Korky QuietFill though. I'd hate to spend the time installing the Whisper valve only to find I STILL get the thunk. J. |
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jaynews wrote:
you may have existing water hammer chambers already installed in your house that simply are flooded. this website discusses that and how to drain them at: http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/infplumb/infwatham.shtm Tried that. Did not help. Called Fluidmaster. They're sending me the "Whisper valve" version which has restricted flow. Is there any chance the Whisper model WON"T solve the problem? If so, then maybe I should just go ahead and buy the a Korky QuietFill though. I'd hate to spend the time installing the Whisper valve only to find I STILL get the thunk. Listen, the flipping part is $10 and it'll take you a half hour to swap out if you take a coffee break in the middle. You're dicking around on a newsgroup, people have given you all sorts of good advice, and you're still asking about the other valve. What are you looking for? A guaranty? Okay, I solemnly swear that the Korky Quietfill will solve all your problems. Just do it, fer cryin' out loud! R |
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Ok, I hear you. One reason for the hesitation is that there is some doubt
as to whether the "thunk" noise (vibrating pipes) that I'm hearing is REALLY a severe enough hammer to be doing the pipes any harm. Some people were telling me that a "thunk" noise of vibrating pipes at shutoff is harmless, while others insist that it is bad for the pipes. While the pipes upstream are vibrating enough to make a thunk noise, the vibrations don't make it all the way back to the beginning of the water line in the basement (2 floors down). The vibrations only make it down one floor. The hammer is a noticeable thunk noise but not horrendously lound. The toilet bowl itself does not seem to vibrate when it happens. If there is no quick/easy way a homeowner could determine for sure if the thunk noise is REALLY a problem, then agree that I should just shut up and get the Korky tomorrow and install it to be on the safe side (in case the hammer is really a problem), and to put this issue to rest. J |
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jaynews wrote:
you may have existing water hammer chambers already installed in your house that simply are flooded. this website discusses that and how to drain them at: http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/infplumb/infwatham.shtm Tried that. Did not help. Called Fluidmaster. They're sending me the "Whisper valve" version which has restricted flow. Is there any chance the Whisper model WON"T solve the problem? If so, then maybe I should just go ahead and buy the a Korky QuietFill though. I'd hate to spend the time installing the Whisper valve only to find I STILL get the thunk. J. You could have changed it 3 times in the amount of time you spent here. |
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jaynews wrote: Ok, I hear you. One reason for the hesitation is that there is some doubt as to whether the "thunk" noise (vibrating pipes) that I'm hearing is REALLY a severe enough hammer to be doing the pipes any harm. Some people were telling me that a "thunk" noise of vibrating pipes at shutoff is harmless, while others insist that it is bad for the pipes. While the pipes upstream are vibrating enough to make a thunk noise, the vibrations don't make it all the way back to the beginning of the water line in the basement (2 floors down). The vibrations only make it down one floor. The hammer is a noticeable thunk noise but not horrendously lound. The toilet bowl itself does not seem to vibrate when it happens. If there is no quick/easy way a homeowner could determine for sure if the thunk noise is REALLY a problem, then agree that I should just shut up and get the Korky tomorrow and install it to be on the safe side (in case the hammer is really a problem), and to put this issue to rest. J I'd be less concerned about the pipes and more concerned about the cheap-assed plastic that Fluidmaster uses. I had one physically break when we were out of town for a few days - had 10,000 gallons of water run through the house. Cost $3800 for house restoration. Plumbers say they see Fluidmaster products break all the time. I use nothing but brass now. Bob S. |
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On 13 Dec 2005 19:36:11 -0800, "Bob S." wrote:
I'd be less concerned about the pipes and more concerned about the cheap-assed plastic that Fluidmaster uses. I had one physically break when we were out of town for a few days - had 10,000 gallons of water run through the house. Cost $3800 for house restoration. Plumbers say Wow. In another thread I pondered what my next leak would be. I guess you've told me. they see Fluidmaster products break all the time. I use nothing but brass now. I guess I'm going to have to change them. Bob S. Remove NOPSAM to email me. Please let me know if you have posted also. |
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On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:13:24 GMT, "George E. Cawthon"
wrote: jaynews wrote: you may have existing water hammer chambers already installed in your house that simply are flooded. this website discusses that and how to drain them at: http://www.naturalhandyman.com/iip/infplumb/infwatham.shtm Tried that. Did not help. Called Fluidmaster. They're sending me the "Whisper valve" version which has restricted flow. Is there any chance the Whisper model WON"T solve the problem? If so, then maybe I should just go ahead and buy the a Korky QuietFill though. I'd hate to spend the time installing the Whisper valve only to find I STILL get the thunk. J. You could have changed it 3 times in the amount of time you spent here. Does he realize they have a bayonet mount? Remove NOPSAM to email me. Please let me know if you have posted also. |
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