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I have an old Craftsman chain-drive garage door opener. It was there
when I bought the house, it's gotta be at least 20 years old, but it works well (noisy as all get out). Anyhow, there are light bulb sockets on both sides of it. The light bulbs are supposed to come on when the door is being opened or closed. They used to work. Now, they come on for a couple seconds, then go off, then flicker a bit, then come on, then go out, etc. I jiggled the bulbs in the sockets a bit and they stayed on for a while, but then resume the erratic performance. One might guess that the bulbs might be coming loose in the socket from the movement of the garage door, but that is not the case. The bulbs remain snugly in the socket. In fact, they work a little better (i.e. stay on a little longer before starting the off-on stuff) if I unscrew them slightly. Thanks for any advice....oh, I don't want to replace the opener, so please don't suggest that! Mike |
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Mike wrote:
.... ... light bulbs ... used to work. Now, they come on for a couple seconds, then go off, then flicker a bit, then come on, then go out, etc. I jiggled the bulbs in the sockets a bit and they stayed on for a while, but then resume the erratic performance. One might guess that the bulbs might be coming loose in the socket from the movement of the garage door, but that is not the case. The bulbs remain snugly in the socket. In fact, they work a little better (i.e. stay on a little longer before starting the off-on stuff) if I unscrew them slightly. Thanks for any advice.... Check for wiring connections loose elsewhere or perhaps even the wire itself has flexed enough over the years to have broken. Or, could be a thermal expansion/contraction problem. -- |
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Mike wrote:
I have an old Craftsman chain-drive garage door opener. It was there when I bought the house, it's gotta be at least 20 years old, but it works well (noisy as all get out). Anyhow, there are light bulb sockets on both sides of it. The light bulbs are supposed to come on when the door is being opened or closed. They used to work. Now, they come on for a couple seconds, then go off, then flicker a bit, then come on, then go out, etc. I jiggled the bulbs in the sockets a bit and they stayed on for a while, but then resume the erratic performance. One might guess that the bulbs might be coming loose in the socket from the movement of the garage door, but that is not the case. The bulbs remain snugly in the socket. In fact, they work a little better (i.e. stay on a little longer before starting the off-on stuff) if I unscrew them slightly. Thanks for any advice....oh, I don't want to replace the opener, so please don't suggest that! Mike It could be the contact tab in the center of the socket. Quite often all that is needed is to cut the power, reach into the socket with your index finger and catch the end of the tab with your fingernail and pull up on it. If you can't get it with your fingernail, you can make a loop out of small gauge wire and catch it that way. You should always use rough service light bulbs in a garage door opener because of the vibration. An example: http://tinyurl.com/qehc3o TDD |
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The Daring Dufas wrote:
Mike wrote: I have an old Craftsman chain-drive garage door opener. It was there when I bought the house, it's gotta be at least 20 years old, but it works well (noisy as all get out). Anyhow, there are light bulb sockets on both sides of it. The light bulbs are supposed to come on when the door is being opened or closed. They used to work. Now, they come on for a couple seconds, then go off, then flicker a bit, then come on, then go out, etc. I jiggled the bulbs in the sockets a bit and they stayed on for a while, but then resume the erratic performance. One might guess that the bulbs might be coming loose in the socket from the movement of the garage door, but that is not the case. The bulbs remain snugly in the socket. In fact, they work a little better (i.e. stay on a little longer before starting the off-on stuff) if I unscrew them slightly. Thanks for any advice....oh, I don't want to replace the opener, so please don't suggest that! Mike It could be the contact tab in the center of the socket. Quite often all that is needed is to cut the power, reach into the socket with your index finger and catch the end of the tab with your fingernail and pull up on it. If you can't get it with your fingernail, you can make a loop out of small gauge wire and catch it that way. You should always use rough service light bulbs in a garage door opener because of the vibration. An example: Good idea on the heavy-duty bulbs. It may be, in this case, that the filaments inside the bulbs are actually broken and making intermittent contact. CFLs are more rugged in this regard. |
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HeyBub wrote:
The Daring Dufas wrote: Mike wrote: I have an old Craftsman chain-drive garage door opener. It was there when I bought the house, it's gotta be at least 20 years old, but it works well (noisy as all get out). Anyhow, there are light bulb sockets on both sides of it. The light bulbs are supposed to come on when the door is being opened or closed. They used to work. Now, they come on for a couple seconds, then go off, then flicker a bit, then come on, then go out, etc. I jiggled the bulbs in the sockets a bit and they stayed on for a while, but then resume the erratic performance. One might guess that the bulbs might be coming loose in the socket from the movement of the garage door, but that is not the case. The bulbs remain snugly in the socket. In fact, they work a little better (i.e. stay on a little longer before starting the off-on stuff) if I unscrew them slightly. Thanks for any advice....oh, I don't want to replace the opener, so please don't suggest that! Mike It could be the contact tab in the center of the socket. Quite often all that is needed is to cut the power, reach into the socket with your index finger and catch the end of the tab with your fingernail and pull up on it. If you can't get it with your fingernail, you can make a loop out of small gauge wire and catch it that way. You should always use rough service light bulbs in a garage door opener because of the vibration. An example: Good idea on the heavy-duty bulbs. It may be, in this case, that the filaments inside the bulbs are actually broken and making intermittent contact. CFLs are more rugged in this regard. The intermittent filament was my first thought but I figured that the OP would have had experience with that before like most tinkerers. I've actually screwed in a plug adapter for folks and plugged in a twin tube shop light that I hung back away from the opener. It sure lights a garage up a lot better at night and lasts a lot longer than a standard bulb. TDD |
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Mike wrote:
I have an old Craftsman chain-drive garage door opener. It was there when I bought the house, it's gotta be at least 20 years old, but it works well (noisy as all get out). Anyhow, there are light bulb sockets on both sides of it. The light bulbs are supposed to come on when the door is being opened or closed. They used to work. Now, they come on for a couple seconds, then go off, then flicker a bit, then come on, then go out, etc. I jiggled the bulbs in the sockets a bit and they stayed on for a while, but then resume the erratic performance. One might guess that the bulbs might be coming loose in the socket from the movement of the garage door, but that is not the case. The bulbs remain snugly in the socket. In fact, they work a little better (i.e. stay on a little longer before starting the off-on stuff) if I unscrew them slightly. If both bulbs are going on/off at the same time, it's doubtful both sockets went bad at the same time. I have a similar opener, Craftsman chain drive, probably from the mid 70's. My developed similar symptoms, no lights but in my case it was the driver relay for the lamps, is on the main card when you slip the case off. The contacts were burned/pitted. Think the main tip-off was if you knuckle rapped the housing, they came on. It's one of the older types, (like an Omron), if you are careful you can pull off the clear plastic top (usually two tits on either side clamping it in place), sand the contacts a bit and it'll be good as new. Think I did mine 10 years ago now and is still fine. -bruce |
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Mike wrote:
I have an old Craftsman chain-drive garage door opener. It was there when I bought the house, it's gotta be at least 20 years old, but it works well (noisy as all get out). Anyhow, there are light bulb sockets on both sides of it. The light bulbs are supposed to come on when the door is being opened or closed. They used to work. Now, they come on for a couple seconds, then go off, then flicker a bit, then come on, then go out, etc. I jiggled the bulbs in the sockets a bit and they stayed on for a while, but then resume the erratic performance. One might guess that the bulbs might be coming loose in the socket from the movement of the garage door, but that is not the case. The bulbs remain snugly in the socket. In fact, they work a little better (i.e. stay on a little longer before starting the off-on stuff) if I unscrew them slightly. Thanks for any advice....oh, I don't want to replace the opener, so please don't suggest that! I also have a 31 year old Sears Craftsman chain drive garage door opener and it does the same thing. I opened it up and found the timer that turns on the lights is a bi-metalic strip with a heater wire wound around it. The heater wire had parted from a terminal and the bi-metalic strip is a bit warped and doesn't make contact. There is not enough spare heater wire to reattach to the terminal but the end sometimes makes contact and the lights will work erratically. Actually it works sometimes more often on the cold days of winter and not at all during summer. I have learned to live with it as that is its only problem. |
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Mike wrote: I have an old Craftsman chain-drive garage door opener. It was there when I bought the house, it's gotta be at least 20 years old, but it works well (noisy as all get out). Anyhow, there are light bulb sockets on both sides of it. The light bulbs are supposed to come on when the door is being opened or closed. They used to work. Now, they come on for a couple seconds, then go off, then flicker a bit, then come on, then go out, etc. I jiggled the bulbs in the sockets a bit and they stayed on for a while, but then resume the erratic performance. One might guess that the bulbs might be coming loose in the socket from the movement of the garage door, but that is not the case. The bulbs remain snugly in the socket. In fact, they work a little better (i.e. stay on a little longer before starting the off-on stuff) if I unscrew them slightly. Thanks for any advice....oh, I don't want to replace the opener, so please don't suggest that! I also have a 31 year old Sears Craftsman chain drive garage door opener and it does the same thing. I opened it up and found the timer that turns on the lights is a bi-metalic strip with a heater wire wound around it. The heater wire had parted from a terminal and the bi-metalic strip is a bit warped and doesn't make contact. There is not enough spare heater wire to reattach to the terminal but the end sometimes makes contact and the lights will work erratically. Actually it works sometimes more often on the cold days of winter and not at all during summer. I have learned to live with it as that is its only problem. You could replace that timer with an inexpensive block timer that's common in the HVAC industry. The little cube timers have a jumper wire that you cut for 120 VAC operation or some operate from 18-240 volts. It appears from your post that the heater/timer turns out the light when it warms up. ICM Controls manufactures all sorts of solid state timers that hook in series with the load and one of them could do the trick. Look at the bypass timer. http://www.icmcontrols.com/products/ TDD |
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I'm not sure what brand of CFL you use, but I havn't found
them to be rugged. As to filament bulbs. Try a different brand. I had some Phillips that would blow easily, and GE I think it was, worked fine. Rough service bulbs are a good idea. As to the center spot. Also sand it a bit, with a bit of emery cloth wrapped over the end of your finger. Scratchy side out, of course. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "HeyBub" wrote in message m... Good idea on the heavy-duty bulbs. It may be, in this case, that the filaments inside the bulbs are actually broken and making intermittent contact. CFLs are more rugged in this regard. |
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Yes, a four foot shop light really lights up the garage.
Excellent idea. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "The Daring Dufas" wrote in message ... The intermittent filament was my first thought but I figured that the OP would have had experience with that before like most tinkerers. I've actually screwed in a plug adapter for folks and plugged in a twin tube shop light that I hung back away from the opener. It sure lights a garage up a lot better at night and lasts a lot longer than a standard bulb. TDD |
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