My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have worked
themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no resistance
to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up one size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?
--


On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

Ron Hardin wrote:
My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have worked
themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no resistance
to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up one size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?

Ron,

There are gutter screws:

http://www.gutterworks.com/gutterscrews.html

Never tried but I had heard of them.

Frank

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:22:17 -0400, Ron Hardin
wrote:

My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have
worked themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no
resistance to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes
by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up
one size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?

My bet is the facia board is rotted out. You could try a regular
gutter nail a few inches away.

I wondered that as well. If it is the case, then affixing the gutter should
only be a temporary measure whilst arranging to replace the fascia.

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:36:37 -0400, Frank
wrote:

Ron Hardin wrote:
My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have worked
themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no resistance
to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up one size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?

Ron,

There are gutter screws:

http://www.gutterworks.com/gutterscrews.html

Never tried but I had heard of them.

Frank

I've used them. I had one area of gutter that was pulling away and
water was running down inside the siding. The gutter screws pulled it
tight against the house better than new. I have since gone around the
whole house and replaced all nails with the screws. It makes a big
difference in how secure the gutters are.

That was 15 years ago. No problems since. I've seen them at Home
Depot.

On Apr 18, 4:17*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:36:37 -0400, Frank





wrote:
Ron Hardin wrote:
My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have worked
themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no resistance
to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up one size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?

Ron,

There are gutter screws:

http://www.gutterworks.com/gutterscrews.html

Never tried but I had heard of them.

Frank

I've used them. I had one area of gutter that was pulling away and
water was running down inside the siding. The gutter screws pulled it
tight against the house better than new. I have since gone around the
whole house and replaced all nails with the screws. It makes a big
difference in how secure the gutters are.

That was 15 years ago. No problems since. I've seen them at Home
Depot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

ALternately, fill the hole with hot glue for a quick fix, then drill
it out just enough for a pilot hole, and renail

In article , says...

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:22:17 -0400, Ron Hardin
wrote:

My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have
worked themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no
resistance to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes
by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up
one size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?

My bet is the facia board is rotted out. You could try a regular
gutter nail a few inches away.

I wondered that as well. If it is the case, then affixing the gutter should
only be a temporary measure whilst arranging to replace the fascia.

The nails are supposed to go into the ends of the rafter tails behind the fascia. The fascia is likely just 3/4" thick, which doesn't provide much strength.

--
Steve Bell
New Life Home Improvement
Arlington, TX

SteveBell wrote:
In article ,
says...

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:22:17 -0400, Ron Hardin
wrote:

My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have
worked themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no
resistance to hammering - you could just push them back in the
holes by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up
one size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them
back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?

My bet is the facia board is rotted out. You could try a regular
gutter nail a few inches away.

I wondered that as well. If it is the case, then affixing the gutter
should only be a temporary measure whilst arranging to replace the
fascia.

The nails are supposed to go into the ends of the rafter tails behind
the fascia. The fascia is likely just 3/4" thick, which doesn't
provide much strength.

Appreciated, that's the point that I have obviously not expressed clearly.
The rotted fascia needs to be replaced to avoid affecting the rafter tails
( if they have not already been affected).

On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 15:16:50 -0700 (PDT), "hr(bob) "
wrote:

On Apr 18, 4:17*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:36:37 -0400, Frank





wrote:
Ron Hardin wrote:
My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have worked
themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no resistance
to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up one size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?

Ron,

There are gutter screws:

http://www.gutterworks.com/gutterscrews.html

Never tried but I had heard of them.

Frank

I've used them. I had one area of gutter that was pulling away and
water was running down inside the siding. The gutter screws pulled it
tight against the house better than new. I have since gone around the
whole house and replaced all nails with the screws. It makes a big
difference in how secure the gutters are.

That was 15 years ago. No problems since. I've seen them at Home
Depot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

ALternately, fill the hole with hot glue for a quick fix, then drill
it out just enough for a pilot hole, and renail

I believe it would be worth it, and no more effort, to do it properly
and permanently with gutter screws.

On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:43:18 +0100, "Clot"
wrote:

SteveBell wrote:
In article ,
says...

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:22:17 -0400, Ron Hardin
wrote:

My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have
worked themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no
resistance to hammering - you could just push them back in the
holes by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up
one size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them
back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?

My bet is the facia board is rotted out. You could try a regular
gutter nail a few inches away.

I wondered that as well. If it is the case, then affixing the gutter
should only be a temporary measure whilst arranging to replace the
fascia.

The nails are supposed to go into the ends of the rafter tails behind
the fascia. The fascia is likely just 3/4" thick, which doesn't
provide much strength.

Appreciated, that's the point that I have obviously not expressed clearly.
The rotted fascia needs to be replaced to avoid affecting the rafter tails
( if they have not already been affected).


You are assuming there is rot. It ain't neccesarily so.

Ron Hardin wrote in
:

My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have
worked themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no
resistance to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes
by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up one
size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?


I just put up a 20 ft section of gutter today. I tried the gutter screws
others spoke of:

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...047&lpage=none

They worked awesome. Square drive head and the box of 10 includes 7"
screws, ferrules and a driver bit. Drove it with an 18v drill.

And now, as mentioned, the fascia board can't be rotten or any wood
behind that. The screws are supposed to be put in the ends of the
trusses/rafters (most likely 24" apart) for full contact penetration. If
you miss it it will just go through the 3/4" fascia board into open
air...

unless...

your rafters/trusses have a rafter cap on them. If that's the case then
all along the fascia board you have a 2xN. Still, try to hit the rafter
end.

wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:43:18 +0100, "Clot"
wrote:

SteveBell wrote:
In article ,
says...

wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:22:17 -0400, Ron Hardin
wrote:

My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails
have worked themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost
no resistance to hammering - you could just push them back in the
holes by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up
one size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them
back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?

My bet is the facia board is rotted out. You could try a regular
gutter nail a few inches away.

I wondered that as well. If it is the case, then affixing the
gutter should only be a temporary measure whilst arranging to
replace the fascia.

The nails are supposed to go into the ends of the rafter tails
behind the fascia. The fascia is likely just 3/4" thick, which
doesn't provide much strength.

Appreciated, that's the point that I have obviously not expressed
clearly. The rotted fascia needs to be replaced to avoid affecting
the rafter tails ( if they have not already been affected).


You are assuming there is rot. It ain't neccesarily so.

Agreed.

"hr(bob) " wrote in
:

On Apr 18, 4:17*pm, wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:36:37 -0400, Frank





wrote:
Ron Hardin wrote:
My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have
wor
ked
themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no
res
istance
to hammering - you could just push them back in the holes by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up
one
size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them
back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?

Ron,

There are gutter screws:

http://www.gutterworks.com/gutterscrews.html

Never tried but I had heard of them.

Frank

I've used them. I had one area of gutter that was pulling away and
water was running down inside the siding. The gutter screws pulled it
tight against the house better than new. I have since gone around the
whole house and replaced all nails with the screws. It makes a big
difference in how secure the gutters are.

That was 15 years ago. No problems since. I've seen them at Home
Depot.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

ALternately, fill the hole with hot glue for a quick fix, then drill
it out just enough for a pilot hole, and renail


As long as the hole is dry and not rotted it would be well worth it to
fix it permanantly right off. Go buy a dowel of the correct diameter
(hopefully it's slightly larger). Cover with exterior wood glue and pound
in with a hammer. Cut off. Let dry overnight. Reattach.

wrote:
On Sun, 19 Apr 2009 01:43:18 +0100, "Clot"
wrote:

SteveBell wrote:
In article ,
says...
wrote:
On Sat, 18 Apr 2009 13:22:17 -0400, Ron Hardin
wrote:

My gutter is coming down at one end - three consecutive nails have
worked themselves out over 40 years, I guess.

I climbed up there to hammer them back in, but they show almost no
resistance to hammering - you could just push them back in the
holes by hand.

Obviously they will not stay.

Are there various diameter gutter nails, and I just have to go up
one size?

Wrap them in something like friction tape and them hammer them
back?

Glue of some sort to encourage them to stay put?

What's the drill for this?
My bet is the facia board is rotted out. You could try a regular
gutter nail a few inches away.
I wondered that as well. If it is the case, then affixing the gutter
should only be a temporary measure whilst arranging to replace the
fascia.
The nails are supposed to go into the ends of the rafter tails behind
the fascia. The fascia is likely just 3/4" thick, which doesn't
provide much strength.
Appreciated, that's the point that I have obviously not expressed clearly.
The rotted fascia needs to be replaced to avoid affecting the rafter tails
( if they have not already been affected).


You are assuming there is rot. It ain't neccesarily so.

No, but some poking around with a flashlight and an ice pick is probably
a good idea. If the ice pick meets little resistance, and if it comes
out with black gunk on the end, well....

--
aem sends...