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Best adhering, durable black paint for metal
I have a set of metal drawers in the lab that are getting old. Ugly
dark, dull green. Looking to paing them black, but I have no idea what will be durable and not flake off. I haven't found 2-part black epoxy (though I wouldn't look forward to dealing with it anyway). Anyone have experience with this? |
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Bob wrote: I have a set of metal drawers in the lab that are getting old. Ugly dark, dull green. Looking to paing them black, but I have no idea what will be durable and not flake off. I haven't found 2-part black epoxy (though I wouldn't look forward to dealing with it anyway). Anyone have experience with this? I don't know what your budget is, but I'm a big fan of powdercoating. That means taking them down to a local industrial finishing shop, making friends with the grizzly old guy there even if he does have a picture of Ronald Reagan on the wall, and asking him what it would cost to have them thrown in with his next batch. The correct place is not in the phone book, and when you walk in it isn't going to be neat and tidy and in a spendy part of town. Those are signs that you're in the shop used by interior decorators to waste their clients' money. To find the correct place, drive down to a couple of machine shops or sheet metal fabricators, and ask the shop foreman or the guy out in the parking lot smoking a cigarette, where they send their painting and powdercoating. OTOH, if this is strictly low budget DIY, then I'm still a Krylon advocate. I'm sure you'll hear differing opinions on that, though. As with any paint job, thorough surface prep is vital. I have a sand blast cabinet which beats the hell out of any other method of prep. |
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On Mar 25, 3:53*am, Bob wrote:
I have a set of metal drawers in the lab that are getting old. Ugly dark, dull green. Looking to paing them black, but I have no idea what will be durable and not flake off. I haven't found 2-part black epoxy (though I wouldn't look forward to dealing with it anyway). Anyone have experience with this? Flaking off is bad prep. Leave any oil from your hands on the handle areas and bond just wont be 100%. If paint there now is bad or soft from years of touching the only stripping guarntees a great bond, but is it worth stripping. Go to a real paint store that sells only paint and do what they recomend |
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On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:18:14 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote: In article , Bob wrote: I have a set of metal drawers in the lab that are getting old. Ugly dark, dull green. Looking to paing them black, but I have no idea what will be durable and not flake off. I haven't found 2-part black epoxy (though I wouldn't look forward to dealing with it anyway). Anyone have experience with this? I don't know what your budget is, but I'm a big fan of powdercoating. That means taking them down to a local industrial finishing shop, making friends with the grizzly old guy there even if he does have a picture of Ronald Reagan on the wall, and asking him what it would cost to have them thrown in with his next batch. The correct place is not in the phone book, and when you walk in it isn't going to be neat and tidy and in a spendy part of town. Those are signs that you're in the shop used by interior decorators to waste their clients' money. To find the correct place, drive down to a couple of machine shops or sheet metal fabricators, and ask the shop foreman or the guy out in the parking lot smoking a cigarette, where they send their painting and powdercoating. OTOH, if this is strictly low budget DIY, then I'm still a Krylon advocate. I'm sure you'll hear differing opinions on that, though. As with any paint job, thorough surface prep is vital. I have a sand blast cabinet which beats the hell out of any other method of prep. I can't add a thing. Well answered question. |
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On Mar 25, 6:18*am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , *Bob wrote: I have a set of metal drawers in the lab that are getting old. Ugly dark, dull green. Looking to paing them black, but I have no idea what will be durable and not flake off. I haven't found 2-part black epoxy (though I wouldn't look forward to dealing with it anyway). Anyone have experience with this? I don't know what your budget is, but I'm a big fan of powdercoating. That means taking them down to a local industrial finishing shop, making friends with the grizzly old guy there even if he does have a picture of Ronald Reagan on the wall, and asking him what it would cost to have them thrown in with his next batch. The correct place is not in the phone book, and when you walk in it isn't going to be neat and tidy and in a spendy part of town. Those are signs that you're in the shop used by interior decorators to waste their clients' money. To find the correct place, drive down to a couple of machine shops or sheet metal fabricators, and ask the shop foreman or the guy out in the parking lot smoking a cigarette, where they send their painting and powdercoating. OTOH, if this is strictly low budget DIY, then I'm still a Krylon advocate. I'm sure you'll hear differing opinions on that, though. As with any paint job, thorough surface prep is vital. I have a sand blast cabinet which beats the hell out of any other method of prep. This. Second best would be having them sprayed by someone with a real spray gun (e.g. your neighbor that restores old cars in his spare time.) Also probably not cheap and possibly just as expensive as powdercoat. Third choice, for a complete DIY in-your-driveway solution, would be to strip (probably chemically) wet sand with about 320, then prime and paint with rattle can automotive primer and "appliance epoxy." nate |
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On Mar 25, 4:53*am, Bob wrote:
I have a set of metal drawers in the lab that are getting old. Ugly dark, dull green. Looking to paing them black, but I have no idea what will be durable and not flake off. I haven't found 2-part black epoxy (though I wouldn't look forward to dealing with it anyway). Anyone have experience with this? I have a couple of 2 drawer filing cabinets that I painted with black automotive hi- temp paint. 4 years old and still looking good. Jimmie |
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On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:18:14 -0700, Smitty Two
wrote: In article , Bob wrote: I have a set of metal drawers in the lab that are getting old. Ugly dark, dull green. Looking to paing them black, but I have no idea what will be durable and not flake off. I haven't found 2-part black epoxy (though I wouldn't look forward to dealing with it anyway). Anyone have experience with this? I don't know what your budget is, but I'm a big fan of powdercoating. That means taking them down to a local industrial finishing shop, making friends with the grizzly old guy there even if he does have a picture of Ronald Reagan on the wall, and asking him what it would cost to have them thrown in with his next batch. The correct place is not in the phone book, and when you walk in it isn't going to be neat and tidy and in a spendy part of town. Those are signs that you're in the shop used by interior decorators to waste their clients' money. To find the correct place, drive down to a couple of machine shops or sheet metal fabricators, and ask the shop foreman or the guy out in the parking lot smoking a cigarette, where they send their painting and powdercoating. Excellent thoughts. Not sure they have any sheet-metal fab places nearby, but I'll take another look. The guy would definitely have a Reagan poster though. OTOH, if this is strictly low budget DIY, then I'm still a Krylon advocate. I'm sure you'll hear differing opinions on that, though. As with any paint job, thorough surface prep is vital. I have a sand blast cabinet which beats the hell out of any other method of prep. I thought Krylon was acrylic? (Hence the name). Acrylic would be pretty soft for this app--it would get scratched. I never had good luck with Krylon anyway. (Glad to hear that you have). I'd think that black oil-base urethane enamel would be tougher, no? |
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Bob wrote:
I have a set of metal drawers in the lab that are getting old. Ugly dark, dull green. Looking to paing them black, but I have no idea what will be durable and not flake off. I haven't found 2-part black epoxy (though I wouldn't look forward to dealing with it anyway). Anyone have experience with this? I've had good results using Preval sprayer with Rustoleum primer and enamel (on old range hood). Not auto-body smooth, but very decent. I didn't strip the old paint because I didn't want to harm new cabinets. No rust, and old paint was gummy with metal showing through. I degreased with denatured alcohol and fine sanded. Preval sprayers are handy gadgets, small spray pattern. If there is rust, it should be removed and primed right away, being sure to clean off any grease or fingerprints. Preval sprayers require thinning the paint (read the label) and get occ. spatter, but better than cans, IMO. |
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Bob wrote:
Excellent thoughts. Not sure they have any sheet-metal fab places nearby, but I'll take another look. The guy would definitely have a Reagan poster though. Especially since pin-ups like Marilyn Monroe are specifically prohibited by either federal law or militant feminists - I forget which. Maybe both. |
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Bob wrote: On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:58:51 -0500, "DanG" wrote: You might look this over. A bit more time, but probably worth considering. Any paint job will take several weeks to totally cure except the powdercoat. http://www.v8alfa.com/index79master....0dollarpaint.h tml Wow... ten lab drawers have caused me to procrastinate for a couple years, but that guy did a well-documented fixup on a Corvair. Now I'm embarrassed. Nobody's going to come into your lab and praise your fine workmanship on repainting some drawers. Your task is a chore. That guy's task was a labor of love. |
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On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:58:51 -0500, "DanG" wrote:
You might look this over. A bit more time, but probably worth considering. Any paint job will take several weeks to totally cure except the powdercoat. http://www.v8alfa.com/index79master....llarpaint.html Wow... ten lab drawers have caused me to procrastinate for a couple years, but that guy did a well-documented fixup on a Corvair. Now I'm embarrassed. |
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DanG wrote:
You might look this over. A bit more time, but probably worth considering. Any paint job will take several weeks to totally cure except the powdercoat. http://www.v8alfa.com/index79master....llarpaint.html Wow! There's hope for the '84 Regal ) What to do about small rusted through holes? Bondo? |
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On Mar 26, 8:32*am, "
wrote: DanG wrote: You might look this over. *A bit more time, but probably worth considering. *Any paint job will take several weeks to totally cure except the powdercoat. http://www.v8alfa.com/index79master....fa.com/50dolla... Wow! *There's hope for the '84 Regal ) *What to do about small rusted through holes? *Bondo? No, no no NO NO NO! Bondo is evil, evil stuff. Cut out the old metal, weld in new. THEN skim coat with Bondo to feather the patch in. Yes, I know, people have been stuffing screening and Bondo into rust holes in their old beater cars for years, but Bondo has a lot of talc in it and will hold moisture... making it rust even faster. Likewise, if you're spot repairing, never cover a patch with primer and leave it. Always coat the primer with something, even if it's just a cheap rattle can of flat black. Lacquer primer will also hold moisture (right against the Bondo you just sprayed it over.) Also, anything you can do to get a good coat of paint on the backside of a repair will make it last much longer. nate |
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