When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? Thanks.

"Shecki" wrote in message
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When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? Thanks.

No: only a digital radio receiver will receive the digital audio
component of a digital TV signal. (When TV stations cease
analogue transmissions, there will be no signal on the frequency
now picked up by your superhet analogue radio.)

--
Don Phillipson
Carlsbad Springs
(Ottawa, Canada)

Don, you have given a lot of bum information. A digital radio will only
provide digital sound from an FM station that is broadcasting a digital
sub carrier. The TV audio is part of the analog TV signal BUT it is
frequency modulated. To answer the OP's question - the radio will not
work.


---MIKE---
In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
(44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:39:21 -0800 (PST), Shecki
wrote:

When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? Thanks.


If that is so, I'll be listening to much less TV when/if that happens.
Currently I listen to TV on a portable radio, maybe I need a
government-issued radio coupon?

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:39:21 -0800 (PST), Shecki wrote:
When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? Thanks.

You're joking, right?

On Feb 9, 4:48*pm, AZ Nomad wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:39:21 -0800 (PST), Shecki wrote:
When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? * *Thanks.

You're joking, right?

No joke. However, to be more clear I should have asked if my radio
would continue to receive the audio of the digitally broadcasted TV
stations, as opposed to making it sound as though I was asking if my
radio would cease to function entirely. Based on the responses it
appears that the useful answers understood my intended question.
Thanks for those useful answers!

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:12:12 -0500, (---MIKE---)
wrote:

Don, you have given a lot of bum information. A digital radio will only
provide digital sound from an FM station that is broadcasting a digital
sub carrier. The TV audio is part of the analog TV signal BUT it is
frequency modulated. To answer the OP's question - the radio will not
work.

How does this make anything Don said incorrect? If you had quoted
him and pointed out what he said that was wrong, I'd know what not to
believe, but since you didn't, I still believe everything he said.

---MIKE---
In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
(44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:47:13 -0500, Phisherman
wrote:

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:39:21 -0800 (PST), Shecki
wrote:

When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? Thanks.


If that is so, I'll be listening to much less TV when/if that happens.
Currently I listen to TV on a portable radio, maybe I need a
government-issued radio coupon?

Yeah, I have one of those too. I especially like it at work, with an
earphone. It only gave VHF, but that was usally what I wanted. I
think it has AM and FM bands, so I can't even throw it away.

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:48:57 -0600, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:39:21 -0800 (PST), Shecki wrote:
When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? Thanks.

You're joking, right?

It was a decent question.

"Shecki" wrote in message
...
When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? Thanks.

Yolu will not be able to hear the sound of the digital stations when the
switch is made. If you get one of the converter boxes you can use it to
hear the sound . Just set your radio to chanel 3 or 4 and the sound should
come in. Also I think the audio will come out of the audio outputs of some
of the converters but have not checked that part out.

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:15:13 -0500, mm wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:48:57 -0600, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:39:21 -0800 (PST), Shecki wrote:
When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? Thanks.

You're joking, right?

It was a decent question.

no it wasn't. You might as well ask:
My friend is blind. Will he be able to hear the his analog tv after
the switchover?
I listen to my analog tv set from another room. Will I be able to hear it
after the switchover?


Sheesh. I can't believe I have to spell it out. If the radio uses an
ANALOG tv receiver then it will stop working when the ANALOG tv signal
is shut down.

On 2/9/2009 3:21 PM Ralph Mowery spake thus:

Also I think the audio will come out of the audio outputs of some of
the converters but have not checked that part out.

Are there any DTT boxes that *don't* output audio? I wouldn't think so.

--
Personally, I like Vista, but I probably won't use it. I like it
because it generates considerable business for me in consulting and
upgrades. As long as there is hardware and software out there that
doesn't work, I stay in business. Incidentally, my company motto is
"If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me".

- lifted from sci.electronics.repair

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 18:21:13 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


"Shecki" wrote in message
...
When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? Thanks.

Yolu will not be able to hear the sound of the digital stations when the
switch is made. If you get one of the converter boxes you can use it to
hear the sound . Just set your radio to chanel 3 or 4 and the sound should
come in. Also I think the audio will come out of the audio outputs of some
of the converters but have not checked that part out.


It (the digital converter) would be really hard to set up without
video.
--
Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"The government of the United States is not, in
any sense, founded on the Christian religion."

On Feb 9, 6:13*pm, mm wrote:
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 14:12:12 -0500, (---MIKE---)
wrote:

Don, you have given a lot of bum information. *A digital radio will only
provide digital sound from an FM station that is broadcasting a digital
sub carrier. *The TV audio is part of the analog TV signal BUT it is
frequency modulated. *To answer the OP's question - the radio will not
work.

How does this make anything Don said incorrect? * If you had quoted
him and pointed out what he said that was wrong, I'd know what not to
believe, but since you didn't, I still believe everything he said.



I think what Don meant was that to pick up a digital ATSC TV
station's audio requires an ATSC tuner. The confusion comes in when
he said you need a digital radio. It's true that what you would need
is indeed a digital radio, but in general terms, digital radio means a
consumer product that you can buy today for your home, car, etc to
pick up digital radio being transmitted from RADIO stations. AFAIK,
they will not pick up TV audio being broadcast viat DTV (ATSC), though
it's possible some might exist with the dual capability.

I don't know of any product made specifically to receive only ATSC TV
audio. But you could use one of the free converter boxes.








* * * * * * * * *---MIKE---
In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
(44° 15' *N - Elevation 1580')- Hide quoted text -

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"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
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On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:15:13 -0500, mm wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:48:57 -0600, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:39:21 -0800 (PST), Shecki
wrote:
When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? Thanks.

You're joking, right?

It was a decent question.

no it wasn't. You might as well ask:
My friend is blind. Will he be able to hear the his analog tv after
the switchover?
I listen to my analog tv set from another room. Will I be able to hear
it
after the switchover?


Sheesh. I can't believe I have to spell it out. If the radio uses an
ANALOG tv receiver then it will stop working when the ANALOG tv signal
is shut down.

Despite the end answer, your means of getting there and insults along the
way deny you any credibility. Try not implying people are idiots before you
answer them (even if you think they are).

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:58:20 GMT, Joe wrote:

"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:15:13 -0500, mm wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:48:57 -0600, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:39:21 -0800 (PST), Shecki
wrote:
When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? Thanks.

You're joking, right?

It was a decent question.

no it wasn't. You might as well ask:
My friend is blind. Will he be able to hear the his analog tv after
the switchover?
I listen to my analog tv set from another room. Will I be able to hear
it
after the switchover?


Sheesh. I can't believe I have to spell it out. If the radio uses an
ANALOG tv receiver then it will stop working when the ANALOG tv signal
is shut down.

Despite the end answer, your means of getting there and insults along the
way deny you any credibility. Try not implying people are idiots before you
answer them (even if you think they are).


You think the OP wasn't joking (or a troll) and thought TV played on a device
lacking a picture tube was receiving some mystical frequency band not
used by regular TV sets?

Nah. Nobody is that stupid.

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 10:04:42 -0600, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:58:20 GMT, Joe wrote:

"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 18:15:13 -0500, mm wrote:
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:48:57 -0600, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Mon, 9 Feb 2009 08:39:21 -0800 (PST), Shecki
wrote:
When digitial TV is implemented..........will a radio which currently
can receive TV audio still function? Thanks.

You're joking, right?

It was a decent question.

no it wasn't. You might as well ask:
My friend is blind. Will he be able to hear the his analog tv after
the switchover?
I listen to my analog tv set from another room. Will I be able to hear
it
after the switchover?


Sheesh. I can't believe I have to spell it out. If the radio uses an
ANALOG tv receiver then it will stop working when the ANALOG tv signal
is shut down.

Despite the end answer, your means of getting there and insults along the
way deny you any credibility. Try not implying people are idiots before you
answer them (even if you think they are).


You think the OP wasn't joking (or a troll) and thought TV played on a device
lacking a picture tube was receiving some mystical frequency band not
used by regular TV sets?

Nah. Nobody is that stupid.

It's precisely because some people know that the audio on tv has been
FM while the picture has been AM, and afaik on very differet
frequencies, that it seems possible that they are only changing the AM
portion to digital.

They already have a long-term precedent of not using the same
transmission method for sound and picture, and the FM sound is already
in a different frequency band, and no one has said anything about two
different bands being freed up.

It was a decent question, that he was smart enough to think of, and
others here weren't.


In reply to another post, the problem with using a digital converter
is in my case and probably the OP's, that the radio becoming obsolete
is a portable radio. One could listen far from an AC outlet.

When I listened to TV at work with an earphone, everyone thought I was
listening to music. They would have doubted I could do my work if
they knew I was listening to tv. Using a digital converter box at
work would mean I was listening to the tv and would attract negative
attention. I got the tv-radio for free from a friend. I will have
to wait a few years or maybe many years until they sell digital, and
then it may or may not be worth spending the money.

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:29:57 -0500, mm wrote:
the FM sound is already in a different frequency band

No, it is not.

It is true that there are two separate carriers, one for sound and one
for video. And it is true that the sound carrier is FM modulated and
that the picture carrier is AM (actually VSB) modulated. The sound
carrier is offset from the video carrier by -4.5MHz, but it is in the
same band.

--
Art Greenberg
artg at eclipse dot net

On Feb 10, 4:00*pm, Art Greenberg wrote:
On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 13:29:57 -0500, mm wrote:
the FM sound is already in a different frequency band

No, it is not.

It is true that there are two separate carriers, one for sound and one
for video. And it is true that the sound carrier is FM modulated and
that the picture carrier is AM (actually VSB) modulated. The sound
carrier is offset from the video carrier by -4.5MHz, but it is in the
same band.

--
Art Greenberg
artg at eclipse dot net

it's +4.5 MHz... at RF ...

to the OP, you can get a DTV converter and a small FM transmitter
(like the kids use for Ipods but a little more powerfull, they are
avaialbe) , connect the audio from the DTV converter to the small FM
transmitter and then you use your FM radio to listen to the TV.

Mark

On Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:23:51 -0800 (PST), wrote:
On Feb 10, 4:00Â*pm, Art Greenberg wrote:
It is true that there are two separate carriers, one for sound and one
for video. And it is true that the sound carrier is FM modulated and
that the picture carrier is AM (actually VSB) modulated. The sound
carrier is offset from the video carrier by -4.5MHz, but it is in the
same band.

--
Art Greenberg
artg at eclipse dot net

it's +4.5 MHz... at RF ...

Ooops ... my mistake. Thanks for correcting.

--
Art Greenberg
artg at eclipse dot net