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Hi,

My plumber explained to me why I need to have a vertical nipple with a
cap to catch particulates.

I would like to know how many of these traps I should set up? Just
one? A couple? Next to each valve? For each appliance?

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron
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Hi,

My plumber explained to me why I need to have a vertical nipple with a
cap to catch particulates.

I would like to know how many of these traps I should set up? Just
one? A couple? Next to each valve? For each appliance?

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron


I've always put a "dirt leg" close to the connection for each gas
applicance (dryer, water heater, furnace, range, etc. Usually right
before the valve for the appliance.

HTH,

Paul F.
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On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:52:35 -0800 (PST), Aaron Fude

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Hi,


My plumber explained to me why I need to have a vertical nipple with a
cap to catch particulates.


I would like to know how many of these traps I should set up? Just
one? A couple? Next to each valve? For each appliance?


Many thanks in advance,


Aaron


I've always put a "dirt leg" close to the connection for each gas
applicance (dryer, water heater, furnace, range, etc. Usually right
before the valve for the appliance.

HTH,

Paul F.



MC-

As Paul posted, that has been my experience and how I have done
installs but.........in my house the furnace has one, the water water
& stove do not. Owned this house for 30 years & have had no problems
with any of the gas appliances.

I wonder if the "dirt leg", as Paul calls it, is ancient practice that
has no real value kinda like "air chambers" made of a foot or so of
pipe.

I was told years ago that the "dirt leg" was really a "condensate
trap" ...........

cheers
Bob
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On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:52:35 -0800 (PST), Aaron Fude
wrote:

Hi,

My plumber explained to me why I need to have a vertical nipple with a
cap to catch particulates.

I would like to know how many of these traps I should set up? Just
one? A couple? Next to each valve? For each appliance?

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron



One trap per appliance.
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Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

My plumber explained to me why I need to have a vertical nipple with a
cap to catch particulates.

I would like to know how many of these traps I should set up? Just
one? A couple? Next to each valve? For each appliance?

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron


On natural gas powered generators I've always installed
not only a drop leg but also a Y strainer to keep debris
out of the system.

http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/1RNC7

TDD


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On Feb 2, 11:52�pm, Aaron Fude wrote:
Hi,

My plumber explained to me why I need to have a vertical nipple with a
cap to catch particulates.

I would like to know how many of these traps I should set up? Just
one? A couple? Next to each valve? For each appliance?

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron


Needing to replace appliances I have checked the dirt traps and never
found anything in them.........

gas company must be careful dirt might muck up meters, and their
regulators.

although a broken underground water line can get water into gas lines
its occured around here.
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on 2/3/2009 12:21 AM (ET) Paul Franklin wrote the following:
On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:52:35 -0800 (PST), Aaron Fude
wrote:


Hi,

My plumber explained to me why I need to have a vertical nipple with a
cap to catch particulates.

I would like to know how many of these traps I should set up? Just
one? A couple? Next to each valve? For each appliance?

Many thanks in advance,

Aaron


I've always put a "dirt leg" close to the connection for each gas
applicance (dryer, water heater, furnace, range, etc. Usually right
before the valve for the appliance.

HTH,

Paul F.


I was told it was a condensate trap. If you put it before the valve, how
would you inspect or empty whatever it collected? Mine are after the
valve so I just have to shut off the valve to that appliance to check
the trap and not the whole house valve, or in my case, the valve on the
top of my propane tank.

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In Hamptonburgh, NY
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I've heard it called a "drip leg". May very possibly do
both?

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MC-

As Paul posted, that has been my experience and how I have
done
installs but.........in my house the furnace has one, the
water water
& stove do not. Owned this house for 30 years & have had
no problems
with any of the gas appliances.

I wonder if the "dirt leg", as Paul calls it, is ancient
practice that
has no real value kinda like "air chambers" made of a foot
or so of
pipe.

I was told years ago that the "dirt leg" was really a
"condensate
trap" ...........

cheers
Bob


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I was told it was a condensate trap. If you put it before the valve, how
would you inspect or empty whatever it collected? Mine are after the valve
so I just have to shut off the valve to that appliance to check the trap
and not the whole house valve,



How often do you inspect them? Ever find anything in them?

I've never opened one, even on our big gas boilers that are 5,500,000 Btu.


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"willshak" wrote in message
I was told it was a condensate trap. If you put it before the valve, how
would you inspect or empty whatever it collected? Mine are after the
valve so I just have to shut off the valve to that appliance to check the
trap and not the whole house valve,



How often do you inspect them? Ever find anything in them?

I've never opened one, even on our big gas boilers that are 5,500,000 Btu.

I don't think they were ever intended to catch much water or debris but are
just a cheap, simple, extra bit of "just-in-case" insurance. It probably
would be worth it if it caught one tiny piece that could clog an orfice or
prevent a valve from seating.

It is probably not revelant but I once had an underground gas feeder that
collected enough water to cut off my supply. The gas company disconnected
the line and blew the water out. So I know it is possible for water to make
its way into gas lines.

Don Young




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On Feb 4, 9:22�pm, "Don Young" wrote:
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"willshak" wrote in message
I was told it was a condensate trap. If you put it before the valve, how
would you inspect or empty whatever it collected? Mine are after the
valve so I just have to shut off the valve to that appliance to check the
trap and not the whole house valve,


How often do you inspect them? �Ever find anything in them?


I've never opened one, even on our big gas boilers that are 5,500,000 Btu.


I don't think they were ever intended to catch much water or debris but are
just a cheap, simple, extra bit of "just-in-case" insurance. It probably
would be worth it if it caught one tiny piece that could clog an orfice or
prevent a valve from seating.

It is probably not revelant but I once had an underground gas feeder that
collected enough water to cut off my supply. The gas company disconnected
the line and blew the water out. So I know it is possible for water to make
its way into gas lines.

Don Young


plumber I know reports they are no longer required
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On Feb 3, 8:53*am, willshak wrote:
on 2/3/2009 12:21 AM (ET) Paul Franklin wrote the following:





On Mon, 2 Feb 2009 20:52:35 -0800 (PST), Aaron Fude
wrote:


Hi,


My plumber explained to me why I need to have a vertical nipple with a
cap to catch particulates.


I would like to know how many of these traps I should set up? Just
one? A couple? Next to each valve? For each appliance?


Many thanks in advance,


Aaron


I've always put a "dirt leg" close to the connection for each gas
applicance (dryer, water heater, furnace, range, etc. Usually right
before the valve for the appliance.


HTH,


Paul F.


I was told it was a condensate trap. If you put it before the valve, how
would you inspect or empty whatever it collected? Mine are after the
valve so I just have to shut off the valve to that appliance to check
the trap and not the whole house valve, or in my case, the valve on the
top of *my propane tank.

--

Bill
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In the original Orange County. Est. 1683
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do u know what a dirt trap is, henry, if not i will explain
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