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Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? I was
thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com |
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On Nov 22, 12:12*am, Red Green wrote:
" wrote in news:443d2989- : Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? *I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. *Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com No wonder gmail has a bad rep. Why does gmail have a bad rep??? I think it's the best email ever and you're the first person to say anything negative about it. What's wrong with you???? |
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: On Nov 22, 12:12*am, Red Green wrote: " wrote in news:443d2989- : Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? *I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. *Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com No wonder gmail has a bad rep. Why does gmail have a bad rep??? I think it's the best email ever and you're the first person to say anything negative about it. What's wrong with you???? Rabies. |
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On Nov 21, 9:42*pm, "
wrote: Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? *I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. *Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com Yes, I've done it and it works very well. I also did the same thing to the deadbolts. |
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... Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. Wondering what other's opinions are. The steel rotating part will still conduct cold from one side to another. We can reduce the apparent coldness of the interior door handle by fitting a wood bezel and handle in place of metal ones. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On Nov 22, 10:07*pm, wrote:
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:02:40 -0500, "Don Phillipson" wrote: wrote in message ... Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? *I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. *Wondering what other's opinions are. The steel rotating part will still conduct cold from one side to another. * We can reduce the apparent coldness of the interior door handle by fitting a wood bezel and handle in place of metal ones. Fill a condom with "Great Stuff" spray foam. *Immediately stretch the condom over your knob and let it swell. *Once it gets hard, you will have a large well insulated knob. Condoms are for loosers! |
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On Nov 21, 9:42*pm, "
wrote: Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? *I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. *Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com Think storm door. |
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On Nov 22, 9:31*am, wrote:
On Nov 21, 9:42*pm, " wrote: Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? *I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. *Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com * Think storm door. Thanks but where I live a storm doesn't but it! |
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On Nov 22, 9:31*am, wrote:
On Nov 21, 9:42*pm, " wrote: Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? *I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. *Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com * Think storm door. Sorry but where I live a storm door doesn't cut it. Spray foam or something to seal the hole has to be done. I like the wood bezel idea also. Considering that Don is from Ottawa should make it suitable solution. |
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Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com How is the "cold air" coming in? Is it leaking out around the knob shank? There can't be a very large gap there. maybe just an O-ring over the shank pushed against the hole it comes through would stop most of the air flow. You could use a little superglue to keep the O-ring in place. Methinks you're straining at a gnat in terms of the amount of cold air coming in there, relative to all the other air leaks in the average house. but have fun.... Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight. |
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On Nov 23, 12:02*am, Jeff Wisnia
wrote: wrote: Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? *I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. *Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com How is the "cold air" coming in? Is it leaking out around the knob shank? There can't be a very large gap there. maybe just an O-ring over the shank pushed against the hole it comes through would stop most of the air flow. You could use a little superglue to keep the O-ring in place. Methinks you're straining at a gnat in terms of the amount of cold air coming in there, relative to all the other air leaks in the average house. but have fun.... Jeff "Metinks" you took the bait. |
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Ron wrote:
On Nov 23, 12:02 am, Jeff Wisnia wrote: wrote: Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com How is the "cold air" coming in? Is it leaking out around the knob shank? There can't be a very large gap there. maybe just an O-ring over the shank pushed against the hole it comes through would stop most of the air flow. You could use a little superglue to keep the O-ring in place. Methinks you're straining at a gnat in terms of the amount of cold air coming in there, relative to all the other air leaks in the average house. but have fun.... Jeff "Metinks" you took the bait. Well, perhaps I did take it hook, line and sinker, but maybe I didn't. The OP did say "cold air", not a "cold knob". And people do take cold air leaks emanating from things like electrical outlet and swith boxes seriously enough to try and smother them out, so why not want to extinguish a leak from around a doorknob shank or bezel plate also? Perhaps the OP will let us know if he was asking a serious question, which elicited a lot of smartypants replies from other students in this high school cafeteria of a thread, or just pulling our chains. Speaking of pulling chains, I had some fun with a Nigerian scammer a few years ago. Apologies if I posted this link here before, the years are taking their toll on my memory and lately I've been suffering from some serious CRS.* http://home.comcast.net/~jwisnia18/j...ambusting.html Jeff * CRS = "Can't remember ****e." -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight. |
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On Nov 23, 12:02*am, Jeff Wisnia
wrote: wrote: Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? *I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. *Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com How is the "cold air" coming in? Is it leaking out around the knob shank? There can't be a very large gap there. maybe just an O-ring over the shank pushed against the hole it comes through would stop most of the air flow. You could use a little superglue to keep the O-ring in place. Methinks you're straining at a gnat in terms of the amount of cold air coming in there, relative to all the other air leaks in the average house. but have fun.... Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight. I didn't mean that there was actually a stream of cold air (which there isn't) just the knob itself is freezing cold probably because it is made of steel. I figured filling the gap with spray foam or replacing the bezel with a wooden one would solve the problem. |
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On Nov 23, 12:02*am, Jeff Wisnia
wrote: wrote: Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? *I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. *Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com How is the "cold air" coming in? Is it leaking out around the knob shank? There can't be a very large gap there. maybe just an O-ring over the shank pushed against the hole it comes through would stop most of the air flow. You could use a little superglue to keep the O-ring in place. Methinks you're straining at a gnat in terms of the amount of cold air coming in there, relative to all the other air leaks in the average house. but have fun.... Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight. I didn't mean that there was actually a stream of cold air (which there isn't) just the knob itself is freezing cold probably because it is made of steel. I figured filling the gap with spray foam or replacing the bezel with a wooden one would solve the problem. |
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On Nov 23, 4:29*pm, "SteveBell"
wrote: wrote in : I didn't mean that there was actually a stream of cold air (which there isn't) just the knob itself is freezing cold probably because it is made of steel. *I figured filling *the gap with spray foam or replacing the bezel with a wooden one would solve the problem. If you disassemble the lockset, you'll find that the metal outside knob is fastened to the metal inside knob with metal screws. The locking mechanism also connects to both knobs, just not as solidly. To stop heat from flowing from the warm side to the cool side, you'll have to have a "thermal break" between the two sides--some non-metal material to which both sides attach. This non-metal thermal break is not available as far as I know, and I bet it never will be. It would be a weak point in the lock, and you want a lock to be as strong as possible. The heat transfer will be small in any case. If you're interested in saving heating/cooling money, you'll be better off looking for something else to improve. If you want to avoid touching a cold doorknob, get somebody's grandmother to knit a doorknob cozy. Hint: Don't waste your time saving money on your doorbell. ;-) -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX I feel like this posting can be useless. All I want to know is if someone has ever insulated a door knob. That is it. Not if you like knitting knobs, not if you are confused if this is a really post or not, not your personal opinions on gmail, not anything but what is in the original post. If the original post is not clear then ask for clarification or don't post at all. Ron and Don had the only good posts and I would like to thank them both very much for making this particular thread worth while. I think the rest of you seriously need to get a life! |
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On Nov 23, 4:29*pm, "SteveBell"
wrote: wrote in : I didn't mean that there was actually a stream of cold air (which there isn't) just the knob itself is freezing cold probably because it is made of steel. *I figured filling *the gap with spray foam or replacing the bezel with a wooden one would solve the problem. If you disassemble the lockset, you'll find that the metal outside knob is fastened to the metal inside knob with metal screws. The locking mechanism also connects to both knobs, just not as solidly. To stop heat from flowing from the warm side to the cool side, you'll have to have a "thermal break" between the two sides--some non-metal material to which both sides attach. This non-metal thermal break is not available as far as I know, and I bet it never will be. It would be a weak point in the lock, and you want a lock to be as strong as possible. The heat transfer will be small in any case. If you're interested in saving heating/cooling money, you'll be better off looking for something else to improve. If you want to avoid touching a cold doorknob, get somebody's grandmother to knit a doorknob cozy. Hint: Don't waste your time saving money on your doorbell. ;-) -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX I feel like this posting can be useless. All I want to know is if someone has ever insulated a door knob. That is it. Not if you like knitting knobs, not if you are confused if this is a really post or not, not your personal opinions on gmail, not anything but what is in the original post. If the original post is not clear then ask for clarification or don't post at all. Ron and Don had the only good posts and I would like to thank them both very much for making this particular thread worth while. I think the rest of you seriously need to get a life! |
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On Nov 23, 4:29 pm, "SteveBell" wrote: wrote in : I didn't mean that there was actually a stream of cold air (which there isn't) just the knob itself is freezing cold probably because it is made of steel. I figured filling the gap with spray foam or replacing the bezel with a wooden one would solve the problem. If you disassemble the lockset, you'll find that the metal outside knob is fastened to the metal inside knob with metal screws. The locking mechanism also connects to both knobs, just not as solidly. To stop heat from flowing from the warm side to the cool side, you'll have to have a "thermal break" between the two sides--some non-metal material to which both sides attach. This non-metal thermal break is not available as far as I know, and I bet it never will be. It would be a weak point in the lock, and you want a lock to be as strong as possible. The heat transfer will be small in any case. If you're interested in saving heating/cooling money, you'll be better off looking for something else to improve. If you want to avoid touching a cold doorknob, get somebody's grandmother to knit a doorknob cozy. Hint: Don't waste your time saving money on your doorbell. ;-) -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX I feel like this posting can be useless. All I want to know is if someone has ever insulated a door knob. That is it. Not if you like knitting knobs, not if you are confused if this is a really post or not, not your personal opinions on gmail, not anything but what is in the original post. If the original post is not clear then ask for clarification or don't post at all. Ron and Don had the only good posts and I would like to thank them both very much for making this particular thread worth while. I think the rest of you seriously need to get a life! There are patents for thermal door knob insulators but you can make your own easily with foam rubber pipe insulation. A 6' stick of insulation should be enough for you to make covers for all your door knobs. Get a small can of glue that's made for the rubber insulation and you can glue one end closed which will make a little pouch that can be slipped over a doorknob. With the right outside diameter tube, the doorknob mount will be covered too. Here are links to the patents but I found no suppliers for ready made insulating covers: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/H002137.html http://tinyurl.com/6fumnr TDD |
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On Nov 23, 4:29*pm, "SteveBell"
wrote: wrote in : I didn't mean that there was actually a stream of cold air (which there isn't) just the knob itself is freezing cold probably because it is made of steel. *I figured filling *the gap with spray foam or replacing the bezel with a wooden one would solve the problem. If you disassemble the lockset, you'll find that the metal outside knob is fastened to the metal inside knob with metal screws. The locking mechanism also connects to both knobs, just not as solidly. To stop heat from flowing from the warm side to the cool side, you'll have to have a "thermal break" between the two sides--some non-metal material to which both sides attach. This non-metal thermal break is not available as far as I know, and I bet it never will be. It would be a weak point in the lock, and you want a lock to be as strong as possible. The heat transfer will be small in any case. If you're interested in saving heating/cooling money, you'll be better off looking for something else to improve. If you want to avoid touching a cold doorknob, get somebody's grandmother to knit a doorknob cozy. Hint: Don't waste your time saving money on your doorbell. ;-) -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX I feel like this posting can be useless. All I want to know is if someone has ever insulated a door knob. That is it. Not if you like knitting knobs, not if you are confused if this is a really post or not, not your personal opinions on gmail, not anything but what is in the original post. If the original post is not clear then ask for clarification or don't post at all. Ron and Don had the only good posts and I would like to thank them both very much for making this particular thread worth while. I think the rest of you seriously need to get a life! |
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On Nov 23, 4:29*pm, "SteveBell"
wrote: wrote in : I didn't mean that there was actually a stream of cold air (which there isn't) just the knob itself is freezing cold probably because it is made of steel. *I figured filling *the gap with spray foam or replacing the bezel with a wooden one would solve the problem. If you disassemble the lockset, you'll find that the metal outside knob is fastened to the metal inside knob with metal screws. The locking mechanism also connects to both knobs, just not as solidly. To stop heat from flowing from the warm side to the cool side, you'll have to have a "thermal break" between the two sides--some non-metal material to which both sides attach. This non-metal thermal break is not available as far as I know, and I bet it never will be. It would be a weak point in the lock, and you want a lock to be as strong as possible. The heat transfer will be small in any case. If you're interested in saving heating/cooling money, you'll be better off looking for something else to improve. If you want to avoid touching a cold doorknob, get somebody's grandmother to knit a doorknob cozy. Hint: Don't waste your time saving money on your doorbell. ;-) -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX I feel like this posting can be useless. All I want to know is if someone has ever insulated a door knob. That is it. Not if you like knitting knobs, not if you are confused if this is a really post or not, not your personal opinions on gmail, not anything but what is in the original post. If the original post is not clear then ask for clarification or don't post at all. Ron and Don had the only good posts and I would like to thank them both very much for making this particular thread worth while. I think the rest of you seriously need to get a life! |
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: On Nov 23, 4:29*pm, "SteveBell" wrote: wrote in : I didn't mean that there was actually a stream of cold air (which there isn't) just the knob itself is freezing cold probably because it is made of steel. *I figured filling *the gap with spray foam or replacing the bezel with a wooden one would solve the problem. If you disassemble the lockset, you'll find that the metal outside knob is fastened to the metal inside knob with metal screws. The locking mechanism also connects to both knobs, just not as solidly. To stop heat from flowing from the warm side to the cool side, you'll have to have a "thermal break" between the two sides--some non-metal material to which both sides attach. This non-metal thermal break is not available as far as I know, and I bet it never will be. It would be a weak point in the lock, and you want a lock to be as strong as possible. The heat transfer will be small in any case. If you're interested in saving heating/cooling money, you'll be better off looking for something else to improve. If you want to avoid touching a cold doorknob, get somebody's grandmother to knit a doorknob cozy. Hint: Don't waste your time saving money on your doorbell. ;-) -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX I feel like this posting can be useless. All I want to know is if someone has ever insulated a door knob. That is it. Not if you like knitting knobs, not if you are confused if this is a really post or not, not your personal opinions on gmail, not anything but what is in the original post. If the original post is not clear then ask for clarification or don't post at all. Ron and Don had the only good posts and I would like to thank them both very much for making this particular thread worth while. I think the rest of you seriously need to get a life! 5th time this msg posted. Like a damn Max Headroom transcript. |
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On Nov 23, 4:29*pm, "SteveBell"
wrote: wrote in : I didn't mean that there was actually a stream of cold air (which there isn't) just the knob itself is freezing cold probably because it is made of steel. *I figured filling *the gap with spray foam or replacing the bezel with a wooden one would solve the problem. If you disassemble the lockset, you'll find that the metal outside knob is fastened to the metal inside knob with metal screws. The locking mechanism also connects to both knobs, just not as solidly. To stop heat from flowing from the warm side to the cool side, you'll have to have a "thermal break" between the two sides--some non-metal material to which both sides attach. This non-metal thermal break is not available as far as I know, and I bet it never will be. It would be a weak point in the lock, and you want a lock to be as strong as possible. The heat transfer will be small in any case. If you're interested in saving heating/cooling money, you'll be better off looking for something else to improve. If you want to avoid touching a cold doorknob, get somebody's grandmother to knit a doorknob cozy. Hint: Don't waste your time saving money on your doorbell. ;-) -- Steve Bell New Life Home Improvement Arlington, TX I feel like this posting can be useless. All I want to know is if someone has ever insulated a door knob. That is it. Not if you like knitting knobs, not if you are confused if this is a really post or not, not your personal opinions on gmail, not anything but what is in the original post. If the original post is not clear then ask for clarification or don't post at all. Ron and Don had the only good posts and I would like to thank them both very much for making this particular thread worth while. I think the rest of you seriously need to get a life! |
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Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com Speaking of doorknobs, here's my contribution to preserving the memories of the olde days: http://home.comcast.net/%7Ejwisnia18/jeff/knob.html Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight. |
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I have read all posts below...what a mess.
I was searching the same solution. It is now summer and my door latch is failing prompting me to take it apart to diagnose. The internal components are full of condensation as the outside warm humid air leaks into the door knob opening and is cooled by either hardware or indoor AC temperature. My searches reveal that door hardware freezes as the door hardware becomes the most prevalent source of leaking air in a tight home. Solutions I have found so far include small rounds of bubble wrap cut to fit, the idea for spray foam (was that yours? kinda sounds messy but a good idea to displace all air). I have not seen any solution for the thermal bridging aspect. Consider hanging out on GreenBuildingAdvisor where more people are focused on these types of issues. Have a great day. On Friday, November 21, 2008 at 8:42:18 PM UTC-6, wrote: Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com |
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Soon to build formulated on Saturday :
I have read all posts below...what a mess. This post is on the bottom, there are no posts below this one. Of course, YMMV if you have your setting different from mine. [...] Consider hanging out on GreenBuildingAdvisor where more people are focused on these types of issues. Have a great day. On Friday, November 21, 2008 at 8:42:18 PM UTC-6, wrote: Or a great 'almost a decade', whatever. |
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On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 03:25:44 -0700 (PDT), Soon to build
wrote: I have read all posts below...what a mess. I was searching the same solution. It is now summer and my door latch is failing prompting me to take it apart to diagnose. The internal components are full of condensation as the outside warm humid air leaks into the door knob opening and is cooled by either hardware or indoor AC temperature. My searches reveal that door hardware freezes as the door hardware becomes the most prevalent source of leaking air in a tight home. Solutions I have found so far include small rounds of bubble wrap cut to fit, the idea for spray foam (was that yours? kinda sounds messy but a good idea to displace all air). I have not seen any solution for the thermal bridging aspect. Consider hanging out on GreenBuildingAdvisor where more people are focused on these types of issues. Have a great day. On Friday, November 21, 2008 at 8:42:18 PM UTC-6, wrote: Has anyone ever insulated a doorknob to keep the cold air out? I was thinking about removing it, filling the hole with foam then cut holes for the screws and latch. Wondering what other's opinions are. Thanks, Carl http://www.gaihosa.com Have never had a problem with frost on doorknobs or latches freezing up here in canada where we have both extreme temperatres (both hot and cold ) as well as very high humidity. Never felt a draft from a properly installed external door latch either. This is on both solid wood and fiberglass doors. I don't have any insulated steel doors between the outside and "conditioned space" |
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