Slightly OT
 

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

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Pat wrote:
It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to
open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

Burn more coal evil grin.

--
--
--John
to email, dial "usenet" and validate
(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

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Slightly OT
 

Pat wrote:
It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?
Hi,
Shovelling sunshine is lot easier.
Move where you can do that, LOL!

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Pat wrote:

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?


Start another election. There will be enough hot air in a short while
to melt all the snow.

--
"Be careful of your thoughts; they may become words at any moment." ~
Ira Gassen

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"Pat" wrote in message
...
It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

Take up skiing and enjoy it. Better than hating it.

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On Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:59:37p, Pat told us...

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?


First buy a snow shovel. Then get your ass in gear.

‘twas a sultry 88°F in Phoenix today. Days like this make it crystal clear
why I moved from Cleveland.

--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:42:11 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
On Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:59:37p, Pat told us...

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?


First buy a snow shovel. Then get your ass in gear.

‘twas a sultry 88°F in Phoenix today. Days like this make it crystal clear
why I moved from Cleveland.

Not sure that makes up for 4 months of hell. Going out at 11pm and
finding it still over 105.

Up north, the best time of the day is just after noon and that
coincides nicely with lunch time. In phoenix, lunch time is the
absolute worst part of the day. The best time in the summer is
between 2am and 4am. I don't get out much at that time; I tend to be
sound asleep.

But right now the weather is lovely.

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wrote in message
...
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:59:37 -0800 (PST), Pat
wrote:

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

25 years ago I figured out the only solution was to move south.
The only problem is those snow birds who can't commit and clog our
roads all winter. They keep saying every couple years that the economy
will slow down the "season" but it never seems to happen.

I'm a 'damn Yankee'. I came to Florida to visit and stayed. But I decided to
stay near the Redneck Riviera in the Panhandle. In the 28 years here I've
seen snow twice (a dusting and 2"). Also seen temps of 8º and 108º. A
Christmas Day at 12º and one at 82º. It ain't the tropics, but it ain't the
Pennsylvania mountains either!

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Pat wrote:
It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

Talk with Al Gore. Maybe he can convince you that the earth is warming up.

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"Pat" wrote in message
...
It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two
days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to
open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

I think you should ask Al Gore & Obama. They want us to spend
$MILLIONS so you get more cold and snow.

Bob-tx

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On Nov 18, 7:59*pm, Pat wrote:
It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

I went to school in city we called, "the mistake on the lake".
Feel sorry for you.

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AZ Nomad wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:42:11 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:
On Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:59:37p, Pat told us...

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to
open in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?


First buy a snow shovel. Then get your ass in gear.

'twas a sultry 88°F in Phoenix today. Days like this make it
crystal clear why I moved from Cleveland.

Not sure that makes up for 4 months of hell. Going out at 11pm and
finding it still over 105.

Up north, the best time of the day is just after noon and that
coincides nicely with lunch time. In phoenix, lunch time is the
absolute worst part of the day. The best time in the summer is
between 2am and 4am. I don't get out much at that time; I tend to be
sound asleep.

But right now the weather is lovely.

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I pass
between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They don't
even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is exactly the
same every day (the islands are surrounded by a one trillion square mile
heat sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

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Red Green wrote:
wrote in :

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:59:37 -0800 (PST), Pat
wrote:

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?
25 years ago I figured out the only solution was to move south.
The only problem is those snow birds who can't commit and clog our
roads all winter. They keep saying every couple years that the economy
will slow down the "season" but it never seems to happen.


Move south...that did it for me! They say it does snow here. I haven't seen
any the years I've been in southern NC. I'll keep looking :-)

All season tires make sense here. But then again, bald tire are all season
here as well.
North East N.C here, and we had snow flurries yesterday. 28f this morning when I
got up. Just not south enough yet.

Chris

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On Nov 19, 7:20*am, Frank wrote:
On Nov 18, 7:59*pm, Pat wrote:

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

I went to school in city we called, "the mistake on the lake".
Feel sorry for you.

Yeah, but that so-called football team just beat our so-called
football team. WIDE RIGHT has been is a cuss word around here for
well over a decade.

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On Nov 18, 8:59*pm, Pat wrote:
It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

Grrrr. WTF. I knew we were in trouble when I look outside last night
and saw stars. Tha'ts never a good sign. Sure enough, it was 4F this
morning. It ain't Thanksgiving yet. This is over a month early.

Well the only consolation that I have is knowing you can always put
more cloths on a lot easier than you can take cloths off (in public).

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 06:48:07 -0600, HeyBub wrote:
AZ Nomad wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:42:11 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:
On Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:59:37p, Pat told us...

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to
open in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?


First buy a snow shovel. Then get your ass in gear.

'twas a sultry 88°F in Phoenix today. Days like this make it
crystal clear why I moved from Cleveland.

Not sure that makes up for 4 months of hell. Going out at 11pm and
finding it still over 105.

Up north, the best time of the day is just after noon and that
coincides nicely with lunch time. In phoenix, lunch time is the
absolute worst part of the day. The best time in the summer is
between 2am and 4am. I don't get out much at that time; I tend to be
sound asleep.

But right now the weather is lovely.

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I pass
between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They don't
even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is exactly the
same every day (the islands are surrounded by a one trillion square mile
heat sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

I do. It gets boring cowering inside all the time.

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"Pat" wrote in message
...
On Nov 18, 8:59 pm, Pat wrote:
It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

Grrrr. WTF. I knew we were in trouble when I look outside last night
and saw stars. Tha'ts never a good sign. Sure enough, it was 4F this
morning. It ain't Thanksgiving yet. This is over a month early.

Well the only consolation that I have is knowing you can always put
more cloths on a lot easier than you can take cloths off (in public).

Clothes also :-)

Slightly OT
 

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I pass
between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They don't
even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is exactly the same
every day (the islands are surrounded by a one trillion square mile heat
sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

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PanHandler wrote:

"Pat" wrote in message
...
On Nov 18, 8:59 pm, Pat wrote:


It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?



Grrrr. WTF. I knew we were in trouble when I look outside last night
and saw stars. Tha'ts never a good sign. Sure enough, it was 4F this


Quitcher whining..........I can remember 27 below. A fading memory, but
no more of it. Coldest
I've seen where I live now was about 28 above. Mebbe that's why so many
drunks move to Florida
- less chance of freezing to death. Around these parts, they're
beginning to talk about recycling
sewage to drinking water. Might as well live on the shuttle :o) Or
mebbe they've just been
drinking too much of that other stuff. There are benefits to living in
"snow country".

morning. It ain't Thanksgiving yet. This is over a month early.

Well the only consolation that I have is knowing you can always put
more cloths on a lot easier than you can take cloths off (in public).

Clothes also :-)

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J. Clarke wrote:
Pat wrote:
It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to
open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

Burn more coal evil grin.


Good plan. If people burn more coal, the Bush/Cheney team can get a
coal company in there to remove the ski slope and dump it into a creek.

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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 02:58:44 +0000 (UTC), "badgolferman"
wrote:

Pat wrote:

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?


Start another election. There will be enough hot air in a short while
to melt all the snow.

We don't need an election here. There's too many Baptist churches.

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Chris wrote in
:

Red Green wrote:
wrote in
:

On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:59:37 -0800 (PST), Pat
wrote:

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to
open in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?
25 years ago I figured out the only solution was to move south.
The only problem is those snow birds who can't commit and clog our
roads all winter. They keep saying every couple years that the
economy will slow down the "season" but it never seems to happen.


Move south...that did it for me! They say it does snow here. I
haven't seen any the years I've been in southern NC. I'll keep
looking :-)

All season tires make sense here. But then again, bald tire are all
season here as well.
North East N.C here, and we had snow flurries yesterday. 28f this
morning when I got up. Just not south enough yet.

Chris


You must be at the Raleigh line or north someplace. Seems that's the
breakpoint. I'm in FAY.

Very first year I was here though we did get some ice.

http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=b55xfo&s=4

None of that is snow.

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On Wed 19 Nov 2008 05:48:07a, HeyBub told us...

AZ Nomad wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 03:42:11 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:
On Tue 18 Nov 2008 06:59:37p, Pat told us...

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to
open in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?


First buy a snow shovel. Then get your ass in gear.

'twas a sultry 88°F in Phoenix today. Days like this make it
crystal clear why I moved from Cleveland.

Not sure that makes up for 4 months of hell. Going out at 11pm and
finding it still over 105.

Up north, the best time of the day is just after noon and that
coincides nicely with lunch time. In phoenix, lunch time is the
absolute worst part of the day. The best time in the summer is
between 2am and 4am. I don't get out much at that time; I tend to be
sound asleep.

But right now the weather is lovely.

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I
pass between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They
don't even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is
exactly the same every day (the islands are surrounded by a one trillion
square mile heat sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

Agreed!


--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
************************************************** **********************
Date: Wednesday, 11(XI)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII)
************************************************** **********************
Countdown till U.S. Thanksgiving Day
1wks 5hrs 11mins
************************************************** **********************
It isn't the fall that kills the child, it is the splattering of
the brain against the inside of the skull.
************************************************** **********************

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On Wed 19 Nov 2008 10:50:48a, Bob F told us...


"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I
pass between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They
don't even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is
exactly the same every day (the islands are surrounded by a one
trillion square mile heat sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

So that I don’t have to plow or shovel snow or drive to work on icy roads,
or live with chronic bronchitis throughout the winter, etc.

Unless you live in a climate like Hawaii, or simply like to freeze or burn,
you avoid the seasons you don’t like and enjoy the ones you do. Part of
that is living where you find most of what you like.

--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
************************************************** **********************
Date: Wednesday, 11(XI)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII)
************************************************** **********************
Countdown till U.S. Thanksgiving Day
1wks 5hrs 10mins
************************************************** **********************
I'm not easy, but I can be tricked.
************************************************** **********************

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"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
5.250...
On Wed 19 Nov 2008 10:50:48a, Bob F told us...


"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I
pass between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They
don't even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is
exactly the same every day (the islands are surrounded by a one
trillion square mile heat sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

So that I don’t have to plow or shovel snow or drive to work on icy roads,
or live with chronic bronchitis throughout the winter, etc.

Unless you live in a climate like Hawaii, or simply like to freeze or burn,
you avoid the seasons you don’t like and enjoy the ones you do. Part of
that is living where you find most of what you like.


I don't freeze or burn where I live. Unless I drive into the mountains or over
them.

I do rust a bit.

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Have you considered emailing the Pope? Perhaps he has the ear of God. As to
global cooling, well, vent more freon. That should help.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Boden" wrote in message
...

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

Talk with Al Gore. Maybe he can convince you that the earth is warming up.

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On Wed 19 Nov 2008 07:09:50p, Bob F told us...


"Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message
5.250...
On Wed 19 Nov 2008 10:50:48a, Bob F told us...


"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which
I pass between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They
don't even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is
exactly the same every day (the islands are surrounded by a one
trillion square mile heat sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

So that I don’t have to plow or shovel snow or drive to work on icy
roads, or live with chronic bronchitis throughout the winter, etc.

Unless you live in a climate like Hawaii, or simply like to freeze or
burn, you avoid the seasons you don’t like and enjoy the ones you do.
Part of that is living where you find most of what you like.


I don't freeze or burn where I live. Unless I drive into the mountains
or over them.

I do rust a bit.

Sorta like the Tin Man? Better carry an oil can. :)


--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
************************************************** **********************
Date: Wednesday, 11(XI)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII)
************************************************** **********************
Countdown till U.S. Thanksgiving Day
1wks 4hrs 40mins
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Friends don't let friends drive naked.
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Pat posted for all of us...

It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

I thought global warming would take care of little problems like this...
--
Tekkie Don't bother to thank me, I do this as a public service.

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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:53:35 GMT, Wayne Boatwright wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2008 10:50:48a, Bob F told us...


"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I
pass between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They
don't even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is
exactly the same every day (the islands are surrounded by a one
trillion square mile heat sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

So that I don’t have to plow or shovel snow or drive to work on icy roads,
or live with chronic bronchitis throughout the winter, etc.

No. Just valley fever from fungus infested dust storms.


I love how when it rains after not having rained for a few weeks, how
it combines with the dust in the air and covers everything with mud.

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On Wed 19 Nov 2008 08:06:20p, AZ Nomad told us...

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 01:53:35 GMT, Wayne Boatwright
wrote:
On Wed 19 Nov 2008 10:50:48a, Bob F told us...


"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which
I pass between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They
don't even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is
exactly the same every day (the islands are surrounded by a one
trillion square mile heat sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

So that I don’t have to plow or shovel snow or drive to work on icy
roads, or live with chronic bronchitis throughout the winter, etc.

No. Just valley fever from fungus infested dust storms.

Luckily I’ve escaped that so far.

I love how when it rains after not having rained for a few weeks, how
it combines with the dust in the air and covers everything with mud.

Indeed it does. What a mess! But then, if it rains enough it washes
things fairly clean again.

--
Wayne Boatwright
(correct the spelling of "geemail" to reply)
************************************************** **********************
Date: Wednesday, 11(XI)/19(XIX)/08(MMVIII)
************************************************** **********************
Countdown till U.S. Thanksgiving Day
1wks 3hrs 44mins
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Do NOT look into laser with remaining eyeball!
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On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:50:48 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:


"HeyBub" wrote in message
om...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I pass
between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They don't
even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is exactly the same
every day (the islands are surrounded by a one trillion square mile heat
sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

My thought exactly!

Slightly OT
 

On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:44:27 -0600, "PanHandler"
wrote:


"Pat" wrote in message
...
On Nov 18, 8:59 pm, Pat wrote:
It's 15F outside and we've gotten 32" of snow in the last two days.

It's mid-November and the ski slope up the road is threatening to open
in 2 days -- about 2 weeks early.

Does anyone know how to make it go away?

Grrrr. WTF. I knew we were in trouble when I look outside last night
and saw stars. Tha'ts never a good sign. Sure enough, it was 4F this
morning. It ain't Thanksgiving yet. This is over a month early.

Well the only consolation that I have is knowing you can always put
more cloths on a lot easier than you can take cloths off (in public).

Clothes also :-)

That's right (about the early winter and about the clothing). Life is
good, actually. At least I have a job to pay the utility bills. And
a fireplace if I get desperate.

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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:15:29 -0500, KLS wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:50:48 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:


"HeyBub" wrote in message
news:XcOdnQTd2OmUlrnUnZ2dnUVZ_qLinZ2d@earthlink. com...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I pass
between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They don't
even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is exactly the same
every day (the islands are surrounded by a one trillion square mile heat
sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

My thought exactly!


Uh, how is that worse than staying inside with heating?
Last time I checked, most people in northern climates stayed inside
during the winter. Being outside in minus ten degree weather isn't much
better than being outside in 115 degree weather.

Of course, the worse part of the day in phoenix is the middle of the day when
most people are out and about.

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AZ Nomad wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:15:29 -0500, KLS wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:50:48 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I pass
between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They don't
even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is exactly the same
every day (the islands are surrounded by a one trillion square mile heat
sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.
That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

My thought exactly!


Uh, how is that worse than staying inside with heating?
Last time I checked, most people in northern climates stayed inside
during the winter. Being outside in minus ten degree weather isn't much
better than being outside in 115 degree weather.

The hell it isn't. One can be perfectly comfortable in -10 weather with
proper cloathing. (I have a cashmere jacket that is very light and will
keep me warm down to about 15 degrees or so.) One can't be comfortable
in 115 degree weather even stark naked and dripping wet. And for a lot
of people that ain't a pretty picture. Anywhere that requires A/C to
keep you from dying of heatstroke isn't somewhere I want to live. (and
that actually includes my current residence, but I have this thing about
eating regularly, and there ain't no jobs where I grew up.)

nate

(unrepentant damnyankee)

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"Nate Nagel" wrote in message
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AZ Nomad wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:15:29 -0500, KLS wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:50:48 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which
I pass between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They
don't even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is
exactly the same every day (the islands are surrounded by a one
trillion square mile heat sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.
That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

My thought exactly!


Uh, how is that worse than staying inside with heating?
Last time I checked, most people in northern climates stayed inside
during the winter. Being outside in minus ten degree weather isn't much
better than being outside in 115 degree weather.

The hell it isn't. One can be perfectly comfortable in -10 weather with
proper cloathing. (I have a cashmere jacket that is very light and will
keep me warm down to about 15 degrees or so.) One can't be comfortable in
115 degree weather even stark naked and dripping wet. And for a lot of
people that ain't a pretty picture. Anywhere that requires A/C to keep
you from dying of heatstroke isn't somewhere I want to live. (and that
actually includes my current residence, but I have this thing about eating
regularly, and there ain't no jobs where I grew up.)

nate

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2 words: low humidity. once you get used to it, you can work outside during
the day as long as you keep hydrated.

people have lived in az for a long time before a/c was invented. for that
matter, mexico, just to our south, is even more hot and humid, and no one
told the maya that they shouldn't live there.

regards,
charlie
cave creek, az

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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:24:35 -0500, Nate Nagel wrote:
AZ Nomad wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:15:29 -0500, KLS wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:50:48 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:

"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I pass
between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They don't
even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is exactly the same
every day (the islands are surrounded by a one trillion square mile heat
sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.
That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

My thought exactly!


Uh, how is that worse than staying inside with heating?
Last time I checked, most people in northern climates stayed inside
during the winter. Being outside in minus ten degree weather isn't much
better than being outside in 115 degree weather.

The hell it isn't. One can be perfectly comfortable in -10 weather with
proper cloathing. (I have a cashmere jacket that is very light and will
keep me warm down to about 15 degrees or so.) One can't be comfortable
in 115 degree weather even stark naked and dripping wet. And for a lot
of people that ain't a pretty picture. Anywhere that requires A/C to
keep you from dying of heatstroke isn't somewhere I want to live. (and
that actually includes my current residence, but I have this thing about
eating regularly, and there ain't no jobs where I grew up.)

Really? You don't stay indoors with a heater when it is minus ten?

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AZ Nomad wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:24:35 -0500, Nate Nagel wrote:
AZ Nomad wrote:
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:15:29 -0500, KLS wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:50:48 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
m...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I pass
between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They don't
even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is exactly the same
every day (the islands are surrounded by a one trillion square mile heat
sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.
That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?
My thought exactly!

Uh, how is that worse than staying inside with heating?
Last time I checked, most people in northern climates stayed inside
during the winter. Being outside in minus ten degree weather isn't much
better than being outside in 115 degree weather.

The hell it isn't. One can be perfectly comfortable in -10 weather with
proper cloathing. (I have a cashmere jacket that is very light and will
keep me warm down to about 15 degrees or so.) One can't be comfortable
in 115 degree weather even stark naked and dripping wet. And for a lot
of people that ain't a pretty picture. Anywhere that requires A/C to
keep you from dying of heatstroke isn't somewhere I want to live. (and
that actually includes my current residence, but I have this thing about
eating regularly, and there ain't no jobs where I grew up.)

Really? You don't stay indoors with a heater when it is minus ten?

I keep my indoors heated, but I don't particularly mind going outside if
something needs done, either. Besides growing up in western PA, I spent
a winter between Detroit and the YooPee, so I know of what I speak.
Minus ten might be pushing it for what I regularly experienced, but 0-10
degrees happened often. Heck, if you enjoy cross-country skiing, cold
weather is best, the snow isn't sticky. And driving is easier as well,
as you don't have that water-over-ice that happens when it's hovering
around freezing.

nate

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On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:21:21 -0600, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:15:29 -0500, KLS wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:50:48 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:


"HeyBub" wrote in message
news:XcOdnQTd2OmUlrnUnZ2dnUVZ_qLinZ2d@earthlink .com...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which I pass
between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They don't
even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is exactly the same
every day (the islands are surrounded by a one trillion square mile heat
sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

My thought exactly!


Uh, how is that worse than staying inside with heating?
Last time I checked, most people in northern climates stayed inside
during the winter. Being outside in minus ten degree weather isn't much
better than being outside in 115 degree weather.

Of course, the worse part of the day in phoenix is the middle of the day when
most people are out and about.
But up here in the cold we get to go out and blow snow, push stuck
cars, go skiing, skating, tubing, and all that other fun stuff. Don't
have to stay inside because you can put on enough to be warm - In
Phoenix it is impossible to take OFF enough to be cool. (even in
Novembrrrrrrrrrr.

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wrote in message
...
On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:21:21 -0600, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:15:29 -0500, KLS wrote:
On Wed, 19 Nov 2008 09:50:48 -0800, "Bob F"
wrote:


"HeyBub" wrote in message
news:XcOdnQTd2OmUlrnUnZ2dnUVZ_qLinZ2d@earthlin k.com...

A New York author once said: "The outdoors is something through which
I pass
between my apartment and my car."

The same applies in Phoenix.

If you don't want to complain about the weather, move to Hawaii. They
don't
even have weather forecasts on the TV because the weather is exactly
the same
every day (the islands are surrounded by a one trillion square mile
heat
sink). Or, you can do as I do.

Stay inside. With redundant air conditioning.

That sounds horrible! Why live in a place that you have to do that?

My thought exactly!


Uh, how is that worse than staying inside with heating?
Last time I checked, most people in northern climates stayed inside
during the winter. Being outside in minus ten degree weather isn't much
better than being outside in 115 degree weather.

Of course, the worse part of the day in phoenix is the middle of the day
when
most people are out and about.
But up here in the cold we get to go out and blow snow, push stuck
cars, go skiing, skating, tubing, and all that other fun stuff. Don't
have to stay inside because you can put on enough to be warm - In
Phoenix it is impossible to take OFF enough to be cool. (even in
Novembrrrrrrrrrr.

not true. it's all what you get used to. i generally work outdoors in the
summertime. as long as i can keep hydrated and shaded, it's just fine. when
the temps get down to a chilly 50F, then i have to put on the heavy coat to
work outdoors.

of course, when i can paint outside at xmas time wearing shorts/no shirt and
have to worry about a sunburn is when i call everyone i know who is
shoveling snow to ask them how it is.

regards,
charlie
cave creek, az