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Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
I have been using this electric start generator for about 2 years on
and off, typically once a month. Last time I tried to start it it sounded like the battery was close to dead, but it was not. It was very hard to turn. In fact, using the rope it was a killer to get it started an I managed to do so only a few times. It turns well with the spark plug removed but very hard with it attached. Too much compression to turn. I read somewhere that there is a decompression valve deep in the crankcase. Could it be anything else. Once it runs, it runs good. But by now, its almost impossible to start. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Nov 3, 10:30*am, Glia wrote:
I have been using this electric start generator for about 2 years on and off, typically once a month. Last time I tried to start it it sounded like the battery was close to dead, but it was not. It was very hard to turn. In fact, using the rope it was a killer to get it started an I managed to do so only a few times. It turns well with the spark plug removed but very hard with it attached. Too much compression to turn. I read somewhere that there is a decompression valve deep in the crankcase. Could it be anything else. Once it runs, it runs good. But by now, its almost impossible to start. Batteries have to be tested like a cars battery for load to know its good. What is voltage, try jumping it. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Nov 3, 10:44*am, ransley wrote:
On Nov 3, 10:30*am, Glia wrote: I have been using this electric start generator for about 2 years on and off, typically once a month. Last time I tried to start it it sounded like the battery was close to dead, but it was not. It was very hard to turn. In fact, using the rope it was a killer to get it started an I managed to do so only a few times. It turns well with the spark plug removed but very hard with it attached. Too much compression to turn. I read somewhere that there is a decompression valve deep in the crankcase. Could it be anything else. Once it runs, it runs good. But by now, its almost impossible to start. Batteries have to be tested like a cars battery for load to know its good. What is voltage, try jumping it. Jumping won't do it. Also, I cannot start it with the pull-start. The resistance is so high that it will not pull unless I relife the compression by taking the spark plug out. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
Glia wrote:
On Nov 3, 10:44 am, ransley wrote: On Nov 3, 10:30 am, Glia wrote: I have been using this electric start generator for about 2 years on and off, typically once a month. Last time I tried to start it it sounded like the battery was close to dead, but it was not. It was very hard to turn. In fact, using the rope it was a killer to get it started an I managed to do so only a few times. It turns well with the spark plug removed but very hard with it attached. Too much compression to turn. I read somewhere that there is a decompression valve deep in the crankcase. Could it be anything else. Once it runs, it runs good. But by now, its almost impossible to start. Batteries have to be tested like a cars battery for load to know its good. What is voltage, try jumping it. Jumping won't do it. Also, I cannot start it with the pull-start. The resistance is so high that it will not pull unless I relife the compression by taking the spark plug out. Can be caused by "hydraulic lock" if raw fuel is getting into the cylinder (aka flooding) during periods of shutdown. Jim |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Nov 3, 1:04*pm, Glia wrote:
On Nov 3, 10:44*am, ransley wrote: On Nov 3, 10:30*am, Glia wrote: I have been using this electric start generator for about 2 years on and off, typically once a month. Last time I tried to start it it sounded like the battery was close to dead, but it was not. It was very hard to turn. In fact, using the rope it was a killer to get it started an I managed to do so only a few times. It turns well with the spark plug removed but very hard with it attached. Too much compression to turn. I read somewhere that there is a decompression valve deep in the crankcase. Could it be anything else. Once it runs, it runs good. But by now, its almost impossible to start. Batteries have to be tested like a cars battery for load to know its good. What is voltage, try jumping it. Jumping won't do it. Also, I cannot start it with the pull-start. The resistance is so high that it will not pull unless I relife the compression by taking the spark plug out. Why wont a car battery jump it, I jump my generac. I saw one with stuck float, it flooded the motor with gas so bad gas shot out 15ft when we removed the spark plug, if oil level is high and stinks like gas its possible, then the oil is no good. Do you use the fuel shutoff valve when not in use. Unless the battery was plugged into the maintener for 2 years its likely trash. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
"Speedy Jim" wrote in message ... Glia wrote: On Nov 3, 10:44 am, ransley wrote: On Nov 3, 10:30 am, Glia wrote: Can be caused by "hydraulic lock" if raw fuel is getting into the cylinder (aka flooding) during periods of shutdown. Jim If it is "hydraulic lock" it should clear after taking out spark plug, turning over a few times, and reinstalling spark plug. Have you tried this? I'll assume its still hard to turn over once sparkplug has gone back in. Have you tried removing the electrical load? That should make it turn over easier, perhaps even easy enough so you could live with a bad decompression valve (if that's what the problem is). Dan |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Nov 3, 1:38*pm, "Dan Kuechle" wrote:
"Speedy Jim" wrote in message ... Glia wrote: On Nov 3, 10:44 am, ransley wrote: On Nov 3, 10:30 am, Glia wrote: Can be caused by "hydraulic lock" if raw fuel is getting into the cylinder (aka flooding) during periods of shutdown. Jim If it is "hydraulic lock" it should clear after taking out spark plug, turning over a few times, and reinstalling spark plug. *Have you tried this? I'll assume its still hard to turn over once sparkplug has gone back in. Have you tried removing the electrical load? *That should make it turn over easier, perhaps even easy enough so you could live with a bad decompression valve (if that's what the problem is). Dan Dan: I am trying to start without any electric load connected is that is what you refer to. Is there a way to disengage the actual coil from the generator? I can turn the flywheel when I remove the pullstart relatively easily when the spark plug is removed. So of course does the starter motor. However, when I put the spark-plug back in it is next to impossible to turn either using the motor that locks up or by pulling on the string like a mad-man. Harry |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Nov 3, 4:20*pm, Claude Hopper
wrote: Glia wrote: I have been using this electric start generator for about 2 years on and off, typically once a month. Last time I tried to start it it sounded like the battery was close to dead, but it was not. It was very hard to turn. In fact, using the rope it was a killer to get it started an I managed to do so only a few times. It turns well with the spark plug removed but very hard with it attached. Too much compression to turn. I read somewhere that there is a decompression valve deep in the crankcase. Could it be anything else. Once it runs, it runs good. But by now, its almost impossible to start. Your compression relief valve is not working. -- Claude Hopper * * * * *:) ? * * * ? * * * ¥ How hard is this to fix? Is this in the crankcase and requires complete disassembly? |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
Glia wrote:
On Nov 3, 4:20 pm, Claude Hopper wrote: Glia wrote: I have been using this electric start generator for about 2 years on and off, typically once a month. Last time I tried to start it it sounded like the battery was close to dead, but it was not. It was very hard to turn. In fact, using the rope it was a killer to get it started an I managed to do so only a few times. It turns well with the spark plug removed but very hard with it attached. Too much compression to turn. I read somewhere that there is a decompression valve deep in the crankcase. Could it be anything else. Once it runs, it runs good. But by now, its almost impossible to start. Your compression relief valve is not working. -- Claude Hopper :) ? ? ¥ How hard is this to fix? Is this in the crankcase and requires complete disassembly? Disclaimer: I'm not familiar with your engine, but Claude may well be right. May not represent your specific engine but there is a .pdf of the assembly he http://www.gen-parts.com/pdf2/0D1752.pdf page 2.3-7 (53) Jim |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Nov 3, 5:34*pm, Glia wrote:
On Nov 3, 4:20*pm, Claude Hopper wrote: Glia wrote: I have been using this electric start generator for about 2 years on and off, typically once a month. Last time I tried to start it it sounded like the battery was close to dead, but it was not. It was very hard to turn. In fact, using the rope it was a killer to get it started an I managed to do so only a few times. It turns well with the spark plug removed but very hard with it attached. Too much compression to turn. I read somewhere that there is a decompression valve deep in the crankcase. Could it be anything else. Once it runs, it runs good. But by now, its almost impossible to start. Your compression relief valve is not working. -- Claude Hopper * * * * *:) ? * * * ? * * * ¥ How hard is this to fix? Is this in the crankcase and requires complete disassembly?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I had a generac 5500 and have a generac 7500 exl, neither that I know have compression relief, What you are doing makes no sence to me, You say you cant jump the starter, well you can, sure the rope is hard to pull but ive done it, whats wrong with the starter, the battery is likely shot, jump it. Its direct drive to the gen. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
What others are hinting: Remove the spark plug, and then give a couple yanks
on the pull rope. See if any gasoline or oil sprays out of the spark plug hole. It's possible liquid is getting into the cylinder. After three or four yanks, put the spark plug back in, and see if it pulls easier. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Glia" wrote in message ... Dan: I am trying to start without any electric load connected is that is what you refer to. Is there a way to disengage the actual coil from the generator? I can turn the flywheel when I remove the pullstart relatively easily when the spark plug is removed. So of course does the starter motor. However, when I put the spark-plug back in it is next to impossible to turn either using the motor that locks up or by pulling on the string like a mad-man. Harry |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
The compression relief is a small assembly which pushes open the exhaust
valve very briefly during the compression stroke. There is some kind of centrifugal sensor, so it only works under some RPM. Been a long time since I've serviced one of these. Yes, the compression release is in the crankcase. And you have to do a lot of disassembly to get at it. The compression release doesn't work if you turn the engine backwards. Makes me wonder if the rope is wound wrong. No, come to think of it, the ball clutch wouldn't let you do that. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Glia" wrote in message ... How hard is this to fix? Is this in the crankcase and requires complete disassembly? |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Nov 4, 7:12*am, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: The compression relief is a small assembly which pushes open the exhaust valve very briefly during the compression stroke. There is some kind of centrifugal sensor, so it only works under some RPM. Been a long time since I've serviced one of these. Yes, the compression release is in the crankcase. And you have to do a lot of disassembly to get at it. *The compression release doesn't work if you turn the engine backwards. Makes me wonder if the rope is wound wrong. No, come to think of it, the ball clutch wouldn't let you do that. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "Glia" wrote in message ... How hard is this to fix? Is this in the crankcase and requires complete disassembly? One more shot at the situation: 1. Pullstart comes to a screeting halt because of compression. With lots of pull one can move it further but not with enough speed to start. 2. Jump start from car works albeit with the engine running on the car the lights dim thats how much the starter needs to draw. It too stalls on every other attempt because it is to darn hard to move. 3. Spark plug removed, the crank moves easily and there is no oil or anything coming out of the cylinder. 4. Once the unit starts, it runs fine. So there must be something that makes turning the crank hard just during startup. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
Glia wrote:
One more shot at the situation: 1. Pullstart comes to a screeting halt because of compression. With lots of pull one can move it further but not with enough speed to start. 2. Jump start from car works albeit with the engine running on the car the lights dim thats how much the starter needs to draw. It too stalls on every other attempt because it is to darn hard to move. 3. Spark plug removed, the crank moves easily and there is no oil or anything coming out of the cylinder. 4. Once the unit starts, it runs fine. So there must be something that makes turning the crank hard just during startup. You've been told what the problem is. You've been told that it's very difficult to get to. It's obviously way over your head to fix it yourself. Take the generator and pay to have it serviced. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Nov 4, 9:10*am, Glia wrote:
On Nov 4, 7:12*am, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: The compression relief is a small assembly which pushes open the exhaust valve very briefly during the compression stroke. There is some kind of centrifugal sensor, so it only works under some RPM. Been a long time since I've serviced one of these. Yes, the compression release is in the crankcase. And you have to do a lot of disassembly to get at it. *The compression release doesn't work if you turn the engine backwards. Makes me wonder if the rope is wound wrong. No, come to think of it, the ball clutch wouldn't let you do that. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus *www.lds.org . "Glia" wrote in message .... How hard is this to fix? Is this in the crankcase and requires complete disassembly? One more shot at the situation: 1. Pullstart comes to a screeting halt because of compression. With lots of pull one can move it further but not with enough speed to start. 2. Jump start from car works albeit with the engine running on the car the lights dim thats how much the starter needs to draw. It too stalls on every other attempt because it is to darn hard to move. 3. Spark plug removed, the crank moves easily and there is no oil or anything coming out of the cylinder. 4. Once the unit starts, it runs fine. So there must be something that makes turning the crank hard just during startup.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - If it was to hard the gen starter would not start it, would it. Lights dimming on car are a sign the gen battery is bad, that little starter can only use so much current, its a single cilinder motor. Mine has no compression release device. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
replying to Glia, Michael Olson wrote:
Check your valve adjustment, if they back off the valves will not open far enough to allow easy crank. I've seen it on a few, find the adjustments and remove the valve cover to check them. -- for full context, visit http://www.homeownershub.com/mainten...ms-340069-.htm |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 02:14:01 +0000
Michael Olson m wrote: replying to Glia, Michael Olson wrote: Check your valve adjustment, if they back off the valves will not open far enough to allow easy crank. I've seen it on a few, find the adjustments and remove the valve cover to check them. The Generac blew up 6 years ago... |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 at 7:42:18 AM UTC-4, burfordTjustice wrote:
On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 02:14:01 +0000 Michael Olson m wrote: replying to Glia, Michael Olson wrote: Check your valve adjustment, if they back off the valves will not open far enough to allow easy crank. I've seen it on a few, find the adjustments and remove the valve cover to check them. The Generac blew up 6 years ago... OTOH lately it seems that the old posts from HH are the only actual home repair related posts. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
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Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
replying to Glia, Jamie wrote:
Hello glia. I had same problem. I drained oil and put sae 30! In and pull start was a lot easier I'm working on the electric start issue now. I should replace battery and try it but for now I'm trying to charge it -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
replying to Glia, Robbie Johnson wrote:
Mines doing the very samething ..did you find the problem -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
replying to Robbie Johnson, Whaler Guy wrote:
My GP5500 had similar symptoms. Not an electric start, but same thing. Almost concluded it was a bad cam shaft due to the decompression not working correctly. Local shop suggested I look at the Valve lash adjustment. BINGO! The exhaust valve was so far off I am amzed it ran. It wasn't allowing the cam to activate the decompression. Super easy to fix. All you need are some basic tools and a feeler gauge. I think I set them at .15 and .20. Google Valve adjustment GP5500 and youll see it. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
replying to Whaler Guy, Jeff Stout wrote:
Same problem with our GP5500, broke the dogs in the pull starter. Used emergency nylon strap around 2 inch hub, you could pull this boat anchor around the yard trying to start it. Sad part is Generac lays no claim to this problem and this problem usually becomes evident at less than 50 hrs of run time. When you leave a comment on there site there's not response it just disappears?. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 2:14:09 PM UTC-5, Jeff Stout wrote:
replying to Whaler Guy, Jeff Stout wrote: Same problem with our GP5500, broke the dogs in the pull starter. Used emergency nylon strap around 2 inch hub, you could pull this boat anchor around the yard trying to start it. Sad part is Generac lays no claim to this problem and this problem usually becomes evident at less than 50 hrs of run time. When you leave a comment on there site there's not response it just disappears?. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm Usually those hard to start problems with small engines that are infrequently used are due to fouled carbs. Did you take it apart, clean it? You can find rebuild kits on Ebay for $10, probably a new carb for not a lot too. I just had that problem with my snowblower. In an hour I had it running. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
In article ,
says... On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 2:14:09 PM UTC-5, Jeff Stout wrote: replying to Whaler Guy, Jeff Stout wrote: Same problem with our GP5500, broke the dogs in the pull starter. Used emergency nylon strap around 2 inch hub, you could pull this boat anchor around the yard trying to start it. Sad part is Generac lays no claim to this problem and this problem usually becomes evident at less than 50 hrs of run time. When you leave a comment on there site there's not response it just disappears?. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm Usually those hard to start problems with small engines that are infrequently used are due to fouled carbs. Did you take it apart, clean it? You can find rebuild kits on Ebay for $10, probably a new carb for not a lot too. I just had that problem with my snowblower. In an hour I had it running. I have had the same hard to start with my 5 kw gen. Take the carb apart and clean it, then the gen will start with one or two pulls. Let it set for 2 or 3 months and no start.. I finally drained the tank and let it run dry, same as some of the other seldom used engines. Now fill it and it will usually start in 3 or less pulls. Just have to remember to give it a few minutes to let the carb refill. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 20:47:20 -0500, Ralph Mowery
wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 2:14:09 PM UTC-5, Jeff Stout wrote: replying to Whaler Guy, Jeff Stout wrote: Same problem with our GP5500, broke the dogs in the pull starter. Used emergency nylon strap around 2 inch hub, you could pull this boat anchor around the yard trying to start it. Sad part is Generac lays no claim to this problem and this problem usually becomes evident at less than 50 hrs of run time. When you leave a comment on there site there's not response it just disappears?. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm Usually those hard to start problems with small engines that are infrequently used are due to fouled carbs. Did you take it apart, clean it? You can find rebuild kits on Ebay for $10, probably a new carb for not a lot too. I just had that problem with my snowblower. In an hour I had it running. I have had the same hard to start with my 5 kw gen. Take the carb apart and clean it, then the gen will start with one or two pulls. Let it set for 2 or 3 months and no start.. I finally drained the tank and let it run dry, same as some of the other seldom used engines. Now fill it and it will usually start in 3 or less pulls. Just have to remember to give it a few minutes to let the carb refill. Put a propane kit on it and kiss your gasoline problems goodbye. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 10:07:00 PM UTC-6, wrote:
On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 20:47:20 -0500, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 2:14:09 PM UTC-5, Jeff Stout wrote: replying to Whaler Guy, Jeff Stout wrote: Same problem with our GP5500, broke the dogs in the pull starter. Used emergency nylon strap around 2 inch hub, you could pull this boat anchor around the yard trying to start it. Sad part is Generac lays no claim to this problem and this problem usually becomes evident at less than 50 hrs of run time. When you leave a comment on there site there's not response it just disappears?. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm Usually those hard to start problems with small engines that are infrequently used are due to fouled carbs. Did you take it apart, clean it? You can find rebuild kits on Ebay for $10, probably a new carb for not a lot too. I just had that problem with my snowblower. In an hour I had it running. I have had the same hard to start with my 5 kw gen. Take the carb apart and clean it, then the gen will start with one or two pulls. Let it set for 2 or 3 months and no start.. I finally drained the tank and let it run dry, same as some of the other seldom used engines. Now fill it and it will usually start in 3 or less pulls. Just have to remember to give it a few minutes to let the carb refill. Put a propane kit on it and kiss your gasoline problems goodbye. I installed a lot of Generac automatic standby generators running on natural gas for homes and businesses but I modified several portable gensets for customers so they would run on natural gas. I purchased the carb kit from the small engine repair and supply company in town. I also installed a leak-proof quick connect fuel line so it would be easy to hook the genset to the NG line. The fuel pressure regulator had to be adjusted for the particular fuel being used. I seem to recall 11 inches of water column for natural gas. It's been a long time and lots of brain cells have died since then so I don't remember the pressure for propane. I'd have to do a web search. Anyway, the thing about running an engine on NG is that the spark plugs seem to last forever and the engine oil stays clean for a long time. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Generated Monster |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
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Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 01:34:37 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
wrote: On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 10:07:00 PM UTC-6, wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 20:47:20 -0500, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 2:14:09 PM UTC-5, Jeff Stout wrote: replying to Whaler Guy, Jeff Stout wrote: Same problem with our GP5500, broke the dogs in the pull starter. Used emergency nylon strap around 2 inch hub, you could pull this boat anchor around the yard trying to start it. Sad part is Generac lays no claim to this problem and this problem usually becomes evident at less than 50 hrs of run time. When you leave a comment on there site there's not response it just disappears?. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm Usually those hard to start problems with small engines that are infrequently used are due to fouled carbs. Did you take it apart, clean it? You can find rebuild kits on Ebay for $10, probably a new carb for not a lot too. I just had that problem with my snowblower. In an hour I had it running. I have had the same hard to start with my 5 kw gen. Take the carb apart and clean it, then the gen will start with one or two pulls. Let it set for 2 or 3 months and no start.. I finally drained the tank and let it run dry, same as some of the other seldom used engines. Now fill it and it will usually start in 3 or less pulls. Just have to remember to give it a few minutes to let the carb refill. Put a propane kit on it and kiss your gasoline problems goodbye. I installed a lot of Generac automatic standby generators running on natural gas for homes and businesses but I modified several portable gensets for customers so they would run on natural gas. I purchased the carb kit from the small engine repair and supply company in town. I also installed a leak-proof quick connect fuel line so it would be easy to hook the genset to the NG line. The fuel pressure regulator had to be adjusted for the particular fuel being used. I seem to recall 11 inches of water column for natural gas. It's been a long time and lots of brain cells have died since then so I don't remember the pressure for propane. I'd have to do a web search. Anyway, the thing about running an engine on NG is that the spark plugs seem to last forever and the engine oil stays clean for a long time. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Generated Monster I installed a "motor snorkel" kit on my Chanpion. very simple tri-fuel conversion allows me to run Gasoline, propane or Natural Gas. Power on natural gas is down about 14% from gasoline, propane down less than 5% |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 12:16:19 PM UTC-6, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 01:34:37 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster wrote: On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 10:07:00 PM UTC-6, wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 20:47:20 -0500, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 2:14:09 PM UTC-5, Jeff Stout wrote: replying to Whaler Guy, Jeff Stout wrote: Same problem with our GP5500, broke the dogs in the pull starter. Used emergency nylon strap around 2 inch hub, you could pull this boat anchor around the yard trying to start it. Sad part is Generac lays no claim to this problem and this problem usually becomes evident at less than 50 hrs of run time. When you leave a comment on there site there's not response it just disappears?. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm Usually those hard to start problems with small engines that are infrequently used are due to fouled carbs. Did you take it apart, clean it? You can find rebuild kits on Ebay for $10, probably a new carb for not a lot too. I just had that problem with my snowblower. In an hour I had it running. I have had the same hard to start with my 5 kw gen. Take the carb apart and clean it, then the gen will start with one or two pulls. Let it set for 2 or 3 months and no start.. I finally drained the tank and let it run dry, same as some of the other seldom used engines. Now fill it and it will usually start in 3 or less pulls. Just have to remember to give it a few minutes to let the carb refill. Put a propane kit on it and kiss your gasoline problems goodbye. I installed a lot of Generac automatic standby generators running on natural gas for homes and businesses but I modified several portable gensets for customers so they would run on natural gas. I purchased the carb kit from the small engine repair and supply company in town. I also installed a leak-proof quick connect fuel line so it would be easy to hook the genset to the NG line. The fuel pressure regulator had to be adjusted for the particular fuel being used. I seem to recall 11 inches of water column for natural gas. It's been a long time and lots of brain cells have died since then so I don't remember the pressure for propane. I'd have to do a web search. Anyway, the thing about running an engine on NG is that the spark plugs seem to last forever and the engine oil stays clean for a long time. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Generated Monster I installed a "motor snorkel" kit on my Chanpion. very simple tri-fuel conversion allows me to run Gasoline, propane or Natural Gas. Power on natural gas is down about 14% from gasoline, propane down less than 5% Did it install between the existing carb and intake? It's been so long since I installed the dang kits, I don't remember exactly what I did. It was back in the last century. o_O [8~{} Uncle Forgetful Monster |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:23:05 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster
wrote: On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 12:16:19 PM UTC-6, Clare Snyder wrote: On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 01:34:37 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster wrote: On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 10:07:00 PM UTC-6, wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 20:47:20 -0500, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 2:14:09 PM UTC-5, Jeff Stout wrote: replying to Whaler Guy, Jeff Stout wrote: Same problem with our GP5500, broke the dogs in the pull starter. Used emergency nylon strap around 2 inch hub, you could pull this boat anchor around the yard trying to start it. Sad part is Generac lays no claim to this problem and this problem usually becomes evident at less than 50 hrs of run time. When you leave a comment on there site there's not response it just disappears?. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm Usually those hard to start problems with small engines that are infrequently used are due to fouled carbs. Did you take it apart, clean it? You can find rebuild kits on Ebay for $10, probably a new carb for not a lot too. I just had that problem with my snowblower. In an hour I had it running. I have had the same hard to start with my 5 kw gen. Take the carb apart and clean it, then the gen will start with one or two pulls. Let it set for 2 or 3 months and no start.. I finally drained the tank and let it run dry, same as some of the other seldom used engines. Now fill it and it will usually start in 3 or less pulls. Just have to remember to give it a few minutes to let the carb refill. Put a propane kit on it and kiss your gasoline problems goodbye. I installed a lot of Generac automatic standby generators running on natural gas for homes and businesses but I modified several portable gensets for customers so they would run on natural gas. I purchased the carb kit from the small engine repair and supply company in town. I also installed a leak-proof quick connect fuel line so it would be easy to hook the genset to the NG line. The fuel pressure regulator had to be adjusted for the particular fuel being used. I seem to recall 11 inches of water column for natural gas. It's been a long time and lots of brain cells have died since then so I don't remember the pressure for propane. I'd have to do a web search. Anyway, the thing about running an engine on NG is that the spark plugs seem to last forever and the engine oil stays clean for a long time. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Generated Monster I installed a "motor snorkel" kit on my Chanpion. very simple tri-fuel conversion allows me to run Gasoline, propane or Natural Gas. Power on natural gas is down about 14% from gasoline, propane down less than 5% Did it install between the existing carb and intake? It's been so long since I installed the dang kits, I don't remember exactly what I did. It was back in the last century. o_O [8~{} Uncle Forgetful Monster No, it installs between the carb and the aircleaner - about the simplest installation you could immagine, as it's only 2/16 to 1/4 inch thick. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 7:11:14 PM UTC-6, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:23:05 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster wrote: On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 12:16:19 PM UTC-6, Clare Snyder wrote: On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 01:34:37 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster wrote: On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 10:07:00 PM UTC-6, wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 20:47:20 -0500, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 2:14:09 PM UTC-5, Jeff Stout wrote: replying to Whaler Guy, Jeff Stout wrote: Same problem with our GP5500, broke the dogs in the pull starter. Used emergency nylon strap around 2 inch hub, you could pull this boat anchor around the yard trying to start it. Sad part is Generac lays no claim to this problem and this problem usually becomes evident at less than 50 hrs of run time. When you leave a comment on there site there's not response it just disappears?. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm Usually those hard to start problems with small engines that are infrequently used are due to fouled carbs. Did you take it apart, clean it? You can find rebuild kits on Ebay for $10, probably a new carb for not a lot too. I just had that problem with my snowblower. In an hour I had it running. I have had the same hard to start with my 5 kw gen. Take the carb apart and clean it, then the gen will start with one or two pulls. Let it set for 2 or 3 months and no start.. I finally drained the tank and let it run dry, same as some of the other seldom used engines. Now fill it and it will usually start in 3 or less pulls. Just have to remember to give it a few minutes to let the carb refill. Put a propane kit on it and kiss your gasoline problems goodbye. I installed a lot of Generac automatic standby generators running on natural gas for homes and businesses but I modified several portable gensets for customers so they would run on natural gas. I purchased the carb kit from the small engine repair and supply company in town. I also installed a leak-proof quick connect fuel line so it would be easy to hook the genset to the NG line. The fuel pressure regulator had to be adjusted for the particular fuel being used. I seem to recall 11 inches of water column for natural gas. It's been a long time and lots of brain cells have died since then so I don't remember the pressure for propane. I'd have to do a web search. Anyway, the thing about running an engine on NG is that the spark plugs seem to last forever and the engine oil stays clean for a long time. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Generated Monster I installed a "motor snorkel" kit on my Chanpion. very simple tri-fuel conversion allows me to run Gasoline, propane or Natural Gas. Power on natural gas is down about 14% from gasoline, propane down less than 5% Did it install between the existing carb and intake? It's been so long since I installed the dang kits, I don't remember exactly what I did. It was back in the last century. o_O [8~{} Uncle Forgetful Monster No, it installs between the carb and the aircleaner - about the simplest installation you could immagine, as it's only 2/16 to 1/4 inch thick. Oh yeah, it's so the throttle plate controls the fuel flow. I seem to recall something about the regulator not allowing gas to flow until it sensed a vacuum or pressure drop at the mouth of the carb. The last time I installed one of those kits was in the early 1990's. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Carb Monster |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Mon, 08 Jan 2018 20:11:11 -0500, Clare Snyder
wrote: On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 15:23:05 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster wrote: On Monday, January 8, 2018 at 12:16:19 PM UTC-6, Clare Snyder wrote: On Mon, 8 Jan 2018 01:34:37 -0800 (PST), Uncle Monster wrote: On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 10:07:00 PM UTC-6, wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2018 20:47:20 -0500, Ralph Mowery wrote: In article , says... On Sunday, January 7, 2018 at 2:14:09 PM UTC-5, Jeff Stout wrote: replying to Whaler Guy, Jeff Stout wrote: Same problem with our GP5500, broke the dogs in the pull starter. Used emergency nylon strap around 2 inch hub, you could pull this boat anchor around the yard trying to start it. Sad part is Generac lays no claim to this problem and this problem usually becomes evident at less than 50 hrs of run time. When you leave a comment on there site there's not response it just disappears?. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/mainte...ms-340069-.htm Usually those hard to start problems with small engines that are infrequently used are due to fouled carbs. Did you take it apart, clean it? You can find rebuild kits on Ebay for $10, probably a new carb for not a lot too. I just had that problem with my snowblower. In an hour I had it running. I have had the same hard to start with my 5 kw gen. Take the carb apart and clean it, then the gen will start with one or two pulls. Let it set for 2 or 3 months and no start.. I finally drained the tank and let it run dry, same as some of the other seldom used engines. Now fill it and it will usually start in 3 or less pulls. Just have to remember to give it a few minutes to let the carb refill. Put a propane kit on it and kiss your gasoline problems goodbye. I installed a lot of Generac automatic standby generators running on natural gas for homes and businesses but I modified several portable gensets for customers so they would run on natural gas. I purchased the carb kit from the small engine repair and supply company in town. I also installed a leak-proof quick connect fuel line so it would be easy to hook the genset to the NG line. The fuel pressure regulator had to be adjusted for the particular fuel being used. I seem to recall 11 inches of water column for natural gas. It's been a long time and lots of brain cells have died since then so I don't remember the pressure for propane. I'd have to do a web search. Anyway, the thing about running an engine on NG is that the spark plugs seem to last forever and the engine oil stays clean for a long time. ^_^ [8~{} Uncle Generated Monster I installed a "motor snorkel" kit on my Chanpion. very simple tri-fuel conversion allows me to run Gasoline, propane or Natural Gas. Power on natural gas is down about 14% from gasoline, propane down less than 5% Did it install between the existing carb and intake? It's been so long since I installed the dang kits, I don't remember exactly what I did. It was back in the last century. o_O [8~{} Uncle Forgetful Monster No, it installs between the carb and the aircleaner - about the simplest installation you could immagine, as it's only 2/16 to 1/4 inch thick. Mine is between the carb and the manifold. Gas doesn't flow until it feels vacuum and you use a primer button to kick it off. I am not sure about the claim that it produces less power but it certainly uses more fuel to compensate for the energy in the propane. I was using a convection oven as a load pulling over 23a (on a 5500w generator at 230v) and I did not any difference at all between gasoline and propane running pretty much at the full rated power. The fuel consumption is a ratio of around 5 to 8+ tho. |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
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Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
No, it installs between the carb and the aircleaner - about the simplest installation you could immagine, as it's only 2/16 to 1/4 inch thick. can someone post a link to such an add on device. sounds like a good idea. mark |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Tuesday, January 9, 2018 at 9:40:58 AM UTC-5, wrote:
No, it installs between the carb and the aircleaner - about the simplest installation you could immagine, as it's only 2/16 to 1/4 inch thick. can someone post a link to such an add on device. sounds like a good idea. mark Google for tri fuel kit for Briggs stratton, or whatever engine |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 06:40:49 -0800 (PST), wrote:
No, it installs between the carb and the aircleaner - about the simplest installation you could immagine, as it's only 2/16 to 1/4 inch thick. can someone post a link to such an add on device. sounds like a good idea. mark I got mine from these guys They are pretty easy to deal with and the phone support is good. http://www.uscarburetion.com/ |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On 01/09/2018 08:40 AM, wrote:
No, it installs between the carb and the aircleaner - about the simplest installation you could immagine, as it's only 2/16 to 1/4 inch thick. can someone post a link to such an add on device. sounds like a good idea. mark I got mine he http://www.uscarburetion.com/ -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "My husband and I divorced over religious differences. He thought he was God and I didn't." |
Generac Generator EXL5500 start problems
On Tue, 9 Jan 2018 06:40:49 -0800 (PST), wrote:
No, it installs between the carb and the aircleaner - about the simplest installation you could immagine, as it's only 2/16 to 1/4 inch thick. can someone post a link to such an add on device. sounds like a good idea. mark Google motor snorkel. or just go to motorsnorkel.com Do we have to hold your hand??? |
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