: lid (Bryce)
Twice Retired wrote:
It always amazing me as to what contractors of all types will try to get
away with. They go to extremes in order to bypass codes and inspections.
(snip)
Sometimes it's too easy:
Ten years ago, a builder put up three large homes on adjacent lots near
me. It appears that all three were sold either before construction
began, or soon after. Work proceeded on all three in parallel until the
buildings were weatherproof: roofing, siding, doors and windows
installed. Then the builder declared bankruptcy and walked away.
There are no sewers on the street (the several existing homes have
septic). Since a septic system is no longer allowed in new construction,
these homes are uninhabitable. The owners had long and totally
unproductive discussions with the city about extending sewers to this
street. Now the homes stand unfinished and abandoned.
I don't know whether the builder got permits or not. Either way, three
homeowners saw their dreams turn into a nightmare.

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I don't think you know WTF you're talking about.. In a later post you
say they were built W/O permits. You wouldn't be able to build a house
anywhere in the socialist USA these days.. So, try again.

Why would septic no longer be allowed. They don't have a public system
according to you...Something doesn't smell right. Do you make things up?

wrote:

: lid (Bryce)
Twice Retired wrote:
It always amazing me as to what contractors of all types will try to get
away with. They go to extremes in order to bypass codes and inspections.
(snip)
Sometimes it's too easy:
Ten years ago, a builder put up three large homes on adjacent lots near
me. It appears that all three were sold either before construction
began, or soon after. Work proceeded on all three in parallel until the
buildings were weatherproof: roofing, siding, doors and windows
installed. Then the builder declared bankruptcy and walked away.
There are no sewers on the street (the several existing homes have
septic). Since a septic system is no longer allowed in new construction,
these homes are uninhabitable. The owners had long and totally
unproductive discussions with the city about extending sewers to this
street. Now the homes stand unfinished and abandoned.
I don't know whether the builder got permits or not. Either way, three
homeowners saw their dreams turn into a nightmare.

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I don't think you know WTF you're talking about.. In a later post you
say they were built W/O permits. You wouldn't be able to build a house
anywhere in the socialist USA these days.. So, try again.

Why would septic no longer be allowed. They don't have a public system
according to you...Something doesn't smell right. Do you make things up?

Nope. It's hard to believe but true. The county auditor's property
records are available at

http://auditor.cuyahogacounty.us/repi/default.asp

and the three homes are 2541, 2543, 2545 Hilltop in Richmond Heights (OH).
Have a look at market values for previous years under the tax/cert values
tab. You'll see big decreases, the latest probably about right for a
home that's completely unfinished inside.

2541 and 2543 are listed as sewer = SP, 2545 shows sewer = none. EPA
does not allow septic in new construction in this area.