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This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me.
I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. nancy |
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"Nancy Young" wrote in message
... I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. No 2-stroke gas-powered tools should be stored with gasoline inside. (They should be run until dry, i.e. until they stop from fuel exhaustion.) The various chemicals in the gas/oil mixture gum up the carburettor if sitting there for months. Good quality chainsaws run for decades if maintained OK. You must decide whether it would be cheaper for your planned task (and future needs) to have the gas chainsaw serviced or buy a new electric chainsaw. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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On Aug 27, 6:34*am, "Nancy Young" wrote:
This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me. I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. *I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. *As expected. * I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. *(laugh) *I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. *Just planning ahead. nancy * What Don said. To answer the electric question. If you will only use it where power is available, it will do your work quite handily. Buy one of the better quality ones though, not the cheapest you can find. Keep the chain sharp. If you don't know how, locate a 'fix-it' shop that sharpens them. Harry K |
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"Don Phillipson" wrote in message
... "Nancy Young" wrote in message ... I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. No 2-stroke gas-powered tools should be stored with gasoline inside. (They should be run until dry, i.e. until they stop from fuel exhaustion.) The various chemicals in the gas/oil mixture gum up the carburettor if sitting there for months. Good quality chainsaws run for decades if maintained OK. You must decide whether it would be cheaper for your planned task (and future needs) to have the gas chainsaw serviced or buy a new electric chainsaw. If you stored it with gas in it, it's gummed/varnished up. Cheap/quick fix might be spraying the carburetor with choke cleaner-- especially if you can get inside. After that, try get someone to spray some starting fluid (ether) at the air cleaner (or remove it and spray right into the air intake) while your pulling the starter. If that doesn't work, remove the plug, spray some starter fluid into the plug hole, quickly reinstall the plug-- then repeat the helper spraying the air cleaner while you pull the starter. Next time, drain the gas and let it run dry ;-) |
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On Aug 27, 6:34*am, "Nancy Young" wrote:
This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me. I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. *I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. *As expected. * I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. *(laugh) *I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. *Just planning ahead. nancy * Gas chainsaw can be a pain especially if you hardly ever use one. But typically electric chainsaw are woefully underpowered & have rather short bars. I have both elecric & gas but I've kinda solved the gas maint problem by sharing a chainsaw with a guy who uses it much more often than I do. When I need the gas saw working, I just give him a call and he drops it off in a few days. The electric one (in ~20 years) has never failed to start and I use it maybe once a year or so for a few days at most. I "inherited" a 12" electric and have used it on some fairly large trees. If I had bought it I would have gone bigger 14" or 16". When you buy your new saw, get an extra chain so you'll always have a sharp one ready. Electrics are underpowered so a sharp chain is important. wrt to maintaining for gas chainsaw......once (if) you get it running and use it..... When you're done using it, use the gas up or dump it out and then run the saw dry. Leaving liquid gas in the saw is surefire way to gum up the saw and make it not start. cheers Bob |
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"Nancy Young" writes:
This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me. I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. For small jobs an electric works well and of course always starts. Mine is 30 years old and gets used once or twice every year. |
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![]() "Nancy Young" wrote Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. Thanks a million for all the answers. I get it, I should have emptied the gas, my bad. I'm going to try to get it running before I give up on it. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out. nancy |
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Nancy Young wrote:
This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me. I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. nancy Hi, I have chainsaw and I use it barely once a year but never had trouble starting. I keep the fuel tank full all the time. Same with weed eater. How do you store it? Also do you use top quality oil at correct ratio? |
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On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:34:49 -0400, "Nancy Young"
wrote: This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me. I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. nancy Your carburator may be gummed up. Replace the old gas with fresh gasoline. Add some stabilizer to the fresh gasoline if you plan to have the chainsaw sit for months without use. |
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![]() Nancy Young wrote: This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me. I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. nancy For such occasional use, there is nothing wrong with an electric chain saw. Things to keep in mind however a - Make sure you have long enough heavy gauge extension cords. - Make sure you don't cut the extension cord. - Electric chain saws are more dangerous than gas ones, since they don't stall out when they bog down like gas ones do. |
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get a good length of chain and pull the shrubs with your car. Cutting them
off will not kill them. s "Nancy Young" wrote in message ... This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me. I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. nancy |
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That is...... IF your car will start.
s "Nancy Young" wrote in message ... This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me. I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. nancy |
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No 2-stroke gas-powered tools should be stored
with gasoline inside. (They should be run until dry, i.e. until they stop from fuel exhaustion.) The various chemicals in the gas/oil mixture gum up the carburettor if sitting there for months. Pardon me for interrupting.. Why don't they have fuel valve? It would be quicker and less wasteful to run dry the carbuerator than to run dry the fuel tank. In case of cleaning up storm damage (e.g. fallen tree), a gas chainsaw may be more handy because the power may be out due to the storm. |
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Tony Hwang wrote:
Nancy Young wrote: This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me. I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. nancy Hi, I have chainsaw and I use it barely once a year but never had trouble starting. I keep the fuel tank full all the time. Same with weed eater. Same here, though less than once a year. I mixed stabilizer with the gas, and that seems to keep it from gumming up. Now that you've got me thinking about it, I'll have to try starting it this afternoon. |
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![]() "Nancy Young" wrote in message ... "Nancy Young" wrote Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. Thanks a million for all the answers. I get it, I should have emptied the gas, my bad. I'm going to try to get it running before I give up on it. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out. nancy Nancy, The electric chainsaws work fine. I got one for my wife so she wouldn't have to maintain the gas chainsaw. Mike :-) |
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"john" wrote in message ...
Why don't they have fuel valve? It would be quicker and less wasteful to run dry the carbuerator than to run dry the fuel tank. A fuel valve would add weight and another component to require cleaning and perhaps repair. Most chainsaws hold less than half a pint of fuel, but many owners empty the fuel tank before running the carb dry for storage. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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For the odd tree limb, a recip saw is a much safer and easier
weapon. You can get a good reciprocating saw and a pack of pruning blades and all you need is a high quality drop cord. It will NEVER fail to start and is generally, MUCH safer for the average person to use than a chain saw. For under $200, you are business for many years. Nancy Young wrote: This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me. I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. nancy |
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![]() "Steve Barker DLT" wrote That is...... IF your car will start. Heh ... too bad chainsaws and lawnmowers aren't more like cars, I never have trouble with cars. You turn the key. Vroom it starts. nancy |
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![]() wrote On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 09:34:49 -0400, "Nancy Young" wrote: I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Do you see gas in the primer bulb? Pump it several times, close the choke and pull. It should at least pop and try to run. If you have carb problems it may not really go but it should pop. You could try squirting a little gas right in the carb but that is really what the primer is supposed to do. If you think you have flooded it, go the other way, open the choke, open the throttle (squeeze the trigger and lock it open) then pull a few times. If it was flooded it will eventually get back to a good mix and run a second. If still no pops you probably have a totally fouled plug or the magneto is bad. I am terrible about using old gas, not running it all out and all that stuff but I can usually get my weed eater and chain saw going. I may have to run it for a few minutes at partial choke to get the gum oout but in a few minutes they are fine. One thing that does go bad are the little fuel hoses around the carb. It will usually be dripping gas. They sell them bulk at the lawn mower repair guy, pretty cheap by the foot and you don't need much. Take in some of the old hose to match it up. There are several sizes. BTW best way to sharpen the chain. Get a chain saw stone for your Dremel tool. It takes about 5 minutes to make a chain like new. More great information. Thanks. It would be nice to be able to take out the occasional shrub without having to call a tree guy, you know? nancy |
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"Nancy Young" wrote in message
... I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw An electric saw would work just fine. I have a good one that cost about $100 and gets used once or twice a year. But how about a hand-powered tree limb saw? Not the kind you'd use on a woodworking bench, but one designed for tree limbs. They're even cheaper. The kind I'm familiar with have a curved blade. |
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On Aug 27, 1:28*pm, Pat Barber wrote:
You can get a good reciprocating saw and a pack of pruning blades and all you need is a high quality drop cord. It will NEVER fail to start and is generally, MUCH safer for the average person to use than a chain saw. For under $200, you are business for many years. For occasional use, you can go the cheap route at Harbor Fright for around $35. Jerry |
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On Aug 27, 8:57*am, "Steve Barker DLT"
wrote: get a good length of chain and pull the shrubs with your car. *Cutting them off will not kill them. Heh! Something like 15 years ago, I had a bunch of Samoan landscapers remove several yuccas from my front yard. They were part of the landscaping crew at Charlie Keating's Phoenician Resort doing a little moonlighting in the suburbs. Scared the cr@p out of me watching them. They wrapped one end of some steel cable around the yucca, wrapped the other end around the hitch on the back of their truck, and put 'er in gear. I had visions of that cable snapping and taking out the picture window directly behind the plant. Guess they knew what they were doing though, they came right out with only some minor ruts in the grass. Jerry |
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Dear Nancy,
Great last name! You make a body proud. As to the saw, well, a whole bunch of reasons why it won't start. Old gas, and dirty air filter are two big ones. Black spark plug is another. If you got the cords to get to the trees, electric saw is a great idea. My Dad has one, and he really loves it. While running, remember to push the chain oiler every five to ten seconds (or whatever the book says). -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Nancy Young" wrote in message ... This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me. I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. nancy |
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Ether in the spark hole is how my Dad had his $500 generator turned into a
lump of useless scrap iron. by a "helpful" neighbor. Please, do not do this to any equipment you want to use again. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Flatus Johnson" fj@nonet wrote in message ... remove the plug, spray some starter fluid into the plug hole, quickly reinstall the plug-- then repeat the helper spraying the air cleaner while you pull the starter. |
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Starting fluid on the air filter is good. I'd never want to spray it into
the air intake. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Flatus Johnson" fj@nonet wrote in message ... After that, try get someone to spray some starting fluid (ether) at the air cleaner (or remove it and spray right into the air intake) while your pulling the starter. |
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Are you under powered? Do you have a short bar? We have just the chainsaw
for you. She will love it, and beg you for more. She won't be able to keep her hands off your pull rope. One quick pull, and your chainsaw will roar to life, with power and vigor. You'll keep going for hours and hours. Just call 1=800-xxx-xxxx or click on this ad! -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "BobK207" wrote in message ... Gas chainsaw can be a pain especially if you hardly ever use one. But typically electric chainsaw are woefully underpowered & have rather short bars. I have both elecric & gas but I've kinda solved the gas maint problem by sharing a chainsaw with a guy who uses it much more often than I do. When I need the gas saw working, I just give him a call and he drops it off in a few days. The electric one (in ~20 years) has never failed to start and I use it maybe once a year or so for a few days at most. I "inherited" a 12" electric and have used it on some fairly large trees. If I had bought it I would have gone bigger 14" or 16". When you buy your new saw, get an extra chain so you'll always have a sharp one ready. Electrics are underpowered so a sharp chain is important. wrt to maintaining for gas chainsaw......once (if) you get it running and use it..... When you're done using it, use the gas up or dump it out and then run the saw dry. Leaving liquid gas in the saw is surefire way to gum up the saw and make it not start. cheers Bob |
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Get an electric car.
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Steve Barker DLT" wrote in message ... That is...... IF your car will start. s |
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Chainsaw gas tank holds maybe 8 ounces. It's not a big deal to just dump the
gas out, on your sawdust pile. Run the saw till it won't run any more, and put it back in the box. Pack a bunch of news paper or paper napkins under the saw, cause the bar oil drains out and collects in the bottom of the saw case. This, I know. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "john" wrote in message ... Pardon me for interrupting.. Why don't they have fuel valve? It would be quicker and less wasteful to run dry the carbuerator than to run dry the fuel tank. In case of cleaning up storm damage (e.g. fallen tree), a gas chainsaw may be more handy because the power may be out due to the storm. |
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I got a recip "Sawzall" years ago. Used it, with a bunch of cheap junk
blades, to take out a stump. Yer right, a "Sawzall" is a good idea. Harbor Freight has em on sale as low as $20 now and again. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Pat Barber" wrote in message news ![]() weapon. You can get a good reciprocating saw and a pack of pruning blades and all you need is a high quality drop cord. It will NEVER fail to start and is generally, MUCH safer for the average person to use than a chain saw. For under $200, you are business for many years. |
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On Aug 27, 7:26*am, "Flatus Johnson" fj@nonet wrote:
"Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... "Nancy Young" wrote in message ... I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. *I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. *As expected. No 2-stroke gas-powered tools should be stored with gasoline inside. * (They should be run until dry, i.e. until they stop from fuel exhaustion.) * The various chemicals in the gas/oil mixture gum up the carburettor if sitting there for months. Good quality chainsaws run for decades if maintained OK. * You must decide whether it would be cheaper for your planned task (and future needs) to have the gas chainsaw serviced or buy a new electric chainsaw. If you stored it with gas in it, it's gummed/varnished up. Cheap/quick fix might be spraying the carburetor with choke cleaner-- especially if you can get inside. After that, try get someone to spray some starting fluid (ether) at the air cleaner (or remove it and spray right into the air intake) while your pulling the starter. If that doesn't work, remove the plug, spray some starter fluid into the plug hole, quickly reinstall the plug-- then repeat the helper spraying the air cleaner while you pull the starter. Next time, drain the gas and let it run dry ;-)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - The starter fluid trick with a 2 cycle is a no-no. You are running an engine with no lube oil!! Harry K |
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On Aug 27, 1:04*pm, "Don Phillipson" wrote:
"john" wrote in ... Why don't they have fuel valve? It would be quicker and less wasteful to run dry the carbuerator than to run dry the fuel tank. A fuel valve would add weight and another component to require cleaning and perhaps repair. *Most chainsaws hold less than half a pint of fuel, but many owners empty the fuel tank before running the carb dry for storage. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) Also, the fuel line is entirely internal to the shrouding. Almost impossible to put a fuel valve in an accessable location. Dumping the tank before beginning is no problem and the dumped fuel can be used in lawn mower or other equipment. Harry K |
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![]() "Nancy Young" wrote in message ... This is the appeal of electric tools to people like me. I have a gas chainsaw, only used a couple of times. I really don't have much use for a chainsaw is what it boils down to. So it sits in the garage for a couple/three years and now that I need it, it won't start. As expected. I'm thinking I'd like to take out some large shrubs this fall. Before I do the unthinkable and purchase an electric chainsaw which I think will just start when you plug it in, any suggestions why the thing won't start? Be nice. (laugh) I'll take down all suggestions and try them before I give up on the gas chainsaw. Just planning ahead. nancy Bad gas. Once it sits for a while, it's useless. Drain all gas. Fill with fresh gas. Pull the cord until your forearms look like Popeye. Steve |
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