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I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the
recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks Steve 41N |
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... I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks Steve 41N You could easily to up to 9 volts and 300-350 mA without over charging. |
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"Special Ed" martin@kallikak wrote in message
... "Steve IA" wrote in message ... I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks Steve 41N You could easily to up to 9 volts and 300-350 mA without over charging. Forgot to add-- make sure the polarity (i.e., is the center positive or negative) matches and is correct or you'll fry it in a heartbeat.... |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:49:54 +0200 (CEST), Steve IA
wrote: I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks No. An adapter with more than 200mA is like a bigger glass of water than one asks for. The battery will only use as much as it wants. OTOH, I would hesitate to use a higher voltage than recommended. And polarity is important, essential. I bought as a spare to use for other things a universal (multi-voltage, multi-plug) power supply adpater for digital video cameras. Other than cutting and reconnecting the wires, it has no way to reverse the polarity and for all the things I have, none of them video cameras, the polarity is backwards. I haven't been able to find out if digital video cameras actually have that polarity, or maybe that's why the charger were sold from a shlock outlet and not at video stores. Steve 41N |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:49:54 +0200 (CEST), Steve IA wrote:
I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks You need the same voltage, same voltage type (DC vs. AC) and at least as much current. Having an adapter that can do more than 200ma is a good thing. |
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Steve IA wrote:
I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks Steve 41N Hi, If you have removable batteris, charge them with the battery charger RS sells. Having two sets of batteries will work better. |
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AZ Nomad wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:49:54 +0200 (CEST), Steve IA wrote: I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks You need the same voltage, same voltage type (DC vs. AC) and at least as much current. Having an adapter that can do more than 200ma is a good thing. I hate it when I accidentally hook up an AC charger to a DC battery. |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:35:54 -0700, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , AZ Nomad wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:49:54 +0200 (CEST), Steve IA wrote: I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks You need the same voltage, same voltage type (DC vs. AC) and at least as much current. Having an adapter that can do more than 200ma is a good thing. I hate it when I accidentally hook up an AC charger to a DC battery. I hate it even worse when I don't check the polarity first. :-p Douglas Adams did a piece called "war on dongly things" complaining about having boxes full of AC adapters. He had it worse as he'd buy products overseas and then have to get a new adapter to handle the AC power and plug used in the UK. I used to hate RS232 because there were about ten thousand ways to configure it (DCE/DTE, h/w or s/w handshaking, what kind of h/w handshaking, bit rate, # bits, # stop bits, parity type, gender of plug, 9 or 25 pin) AC adapters are worse and they worsened in recent years as the product makers no longer put their brand name on the AC adapter. I'm seeing a trend to using USB for power. USB has power limitations but for many devices that isn't a problem. I now have a pile of USB cables, each going to a proprietary connector (phone, ipod, etc.) Some devices simply have a micro-usb socket for their power. I can then plug the other end into an AC adapter, computer, or cigarette lighter style car plug. |
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On Aug 10, 4:35*pm, Smitty Two wrote:
. I hate it when I accidentally hook up an AC charger to a DC battery. Aahhh....ac charger?? What would hold an ac charge? Oh, I get it now..... |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:48:03 -0500, AZ Nomad
wrote: [snip] AC adapters are worse and they worsened in recent years as the product makers no longer put their brand name on the AC adapter. And many products that use the things have inadequate labeling on the power input. Combined with the above, it's even harder to figure out which AC adapter to use. [snip] -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" |
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Steve IA wrote:
I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks Steve 41N The 200ma ought to be a minimum value. Of course it is possible that the charging circuit is so cheesey that the impedance of the dongle is actually what limits the charging current, in which chase the battery could overheat and leak, or even explode. So try it. If it works, you will have achieved frugality. If it doesn't, the thing was a piece of crap, anyhow. Anthony Straight http://tonyelectric.com ** Posted from http://www.teranews.com ** |
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AZ Nomad wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:35:54 -0700, Smitty Two wrote: In article , AZ Nomad wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:49:54 +0200 (CEST), Steve IA wrote: I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks You need the same voltage, same voltage type (DC vs. AC) and at least as much current. Having an adapter that can do more than 200ma is a good thing. I hate it when I accidentally hook up an AC charger to a DC battery. I hate it even worse when I don't check the polarity first. :-p What I really meant to say was that I hate it when I hook up a DC charger to an AC battery. I was poking a bit of fun at the fact that you apparently missed that the OP said his device had a rechargeable battery, so obviously he's after a DC output. |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 17:37:24 -0500, Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:48:03 -0500, AZ Nomad wrote: [snip] AC adapters are worse and they worsened in recent years as the product makers no longer put their brand name on the AC adapter. And many products that use the things have inadequate labeling on the power input. Combined with the above, it's even harder to figure out which AC adapter to use. When I store such a device, I made it a point to wrap the power cord around the device so that it won't get separated from it's ac adapter. |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:07:44 -0700, Smitty Two wrote:
In article , AZ Nomad wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 14:35:54 -0700, Smitty Two wrote: In article , AZ Nomad wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:49:54 +0200 (CEST), Steve IA wrote: I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks You need the same voltage, same voltage type (DC vs. AC) and at least as much current. Having an adapter that can do more than 200ma is a good thing. I hate it when I accidentally hook up an AC charger to a DC battery. I hate it even worse when I don't check the polarity first. :-p What I really meant to say was that I hate it when I hook up a DC charger to an AC battery. I was poking a bit of fun at the fact that you apparently missed that the OP said his device had a rechargeable battery, so obviously he's after a DC output. There's no correlation. A device with a DC circuitry (just about everything) and a device with a DC battery are the same. The device can just as easily have the rectification in the device instead of the AC adapter and have an AC input. |
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Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:48:03 -0500, AZ Nomad wrote: [snip] AC adapters are worse and they worsened in recent years as the product makers no longer put their brand name on the AC adapter. And many products that use the things have inadequate labeling on the power input. Combined with the above, it's even harder to figure out which AC adapter to use. [snip] Rueful chuckle. At this point, I have a couple cubic feet of 'wall wart' chargers in my collection. Every toy or tool that died, I'd save the chargers. When I lived in the apartments and passed 17 dumpsters on my nightly walk, I'd salvage every charger I noticed near the top. So now when I find some new toy at a store that turns out to not include a charger, or buy something at a garage sale that is missing the charger, it is about 50-50 odds that I have one in stock that will work. I have bought a couple at rat shack, but their prices are outrageous, so I try to avoid that. As long as they are not more than half a buck or so, I do buy the orphan chargers I see at garage sales and thrift stores, unless I know I already have several of that flavor. Anybody that is looking for an oddball one, next time you pass a Goodwill, stop in- they usually have several hanging on a board. -- aem sends... |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:49:54 +0200 (CEST), Steve IA
wrote: I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks Steve 41N Contrary to what others have said the voltage present at the radio could be critical. It depends on what is in the radio. Some IC's have voltage maximums that may be reached by some 7.5 volt poorly regulated adaptors. A rechargeable battery should not be overcharged. Heat from overcharging/overvoltage will damage the battery. 7.35 charging volts is maximum. A well regulated 6 or 7.5 volt DC adaptor of any current rating of 200 ma or above will work as far as the radio is concerned, but if you run into a poorly regulated adaptor the voltage could be 1.414 times higher than what the adaptor is rated. If you have a few spare adaptors laying around first check that the marked ratings are at least what the radio calls for. Then measure the no load voltage to make sure it is under 8 volts for the radio or under 7.35 for the batteries. Even some 6 volt adaptors can measure more than 8 volts with no load. |
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If you're recharging internal battery, the value might be important. Depends
on the design of the radio. The 200 mA limit may limit how fast the batteries get charged. If you're using the AC plug to run the radio (play music and news; not charging internal battery) then higher mA won't hurt anything. mA is power available, not necessarily power used. For example, you can plug a 1 amp table lamp into a 20 amp socket, and the lamp uses what it needs. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Steve IA" wrote in message ... I got a portable radio w/ rechargeable battery that didn't come with the recharging adapter. The radio states to use a 6V 200mA adapter. How critical is the 200 mA value. I've other 6V adapters but all are 200mA. Will it damage the battery or radio? Thanks Steve 41N |
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On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 23:34:03 GMT, aemeijers wrote:
Mark Lloyd wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2008 16:48:03 -0500, AZ Nomad wrote: [snip] AC adapters are worse and they worsened in recent years as the product makers no longer put their brand name on the AC adapter. And many products that use the things have inadequate labeling on the power input. Combined with the above, it's even harder to figure out which AC adapter to use. [snip] Rueful chuckle. At this point, I have a couple cubic feet of 'wall wart' chargers in my collection. That's about how much I have. Every toy or tool that died, I'd save the chargers. When I lived in the apartments and passed 17 dumpsters on my nightly walk, I'd salvage every charger I noticed near the top. So now when I find some new toy at a store that turns out to not include a charger, or buy something at a garage sale that is missing the charger, it is about 50-50 odds that I have one in stock that will work. I have bought a couple at rat shack, but their prices are outrageous, so I try to avoid that. As long as they are not more than half a buck or so, I do buy the orphan chargers I see at garage sales and thrift stores, unless I know I already have several of that flavor. Anybody that is looking for an oddball one, next time you pass a Goodwill, stop in- they usually have several hanging on a board. I even have one 6-8VAC wall-wart that was used for an old lighted-dial phone. BTW, the brand name on it is not "AULT". -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com "Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" |
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