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Shingles curling (upward)
I had a 25 year roof installed after my roof was damaged by hail. The original roof
had been on about 20 years and was in good shape up to the point the hail beat it to death. This new roof is about 9 years old and I see that its curling (upward) in various sections on the south face of the roof. The roofers want $5700 to do the whole roof and $3K to do the curled face about (20' by 20'). Now since there should be another 15 years left on the remaining 3/4s of the roof and I feel that the $3K is a rip off what I feel I should do is: to re shingle over the 20 by 20 area,,, nailing down the curled corners of the original roof as I shingle my way up the roof shingling right over the existing roof. At $20 per bundle I could do the four square for about $240 bux. I reason that it's not good practice to shingle over shingles but I have seen lots and lots of roofs shingled over shingles and since I'll have to do the rest of the roof in about 15 years, these need only last that 15 years. Doing it this way also allows me to do the roof at a leisurely pace. (I'm old and heavy) [yes,,,,fat!] What do you think? Does the plan hold water? (No pun) |
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Sid Carrol wrote:
I had a 25 year roof installed after my roof was damaged by hail. The original roof had been on about 20 years and was in good shape up to the point the hail beat it to death. This new roof is about 9 years old and I see that its curling (upward) in various sections on the south face of the roof. The roofers want $5700 to do the whole roof and $3K to do the curled face about (20' by 20'). Now since there should be another 15 years left on the remaining 3/4s of the roof and I feel that the $3K is a rip off what I feel I should do is: to re shingle over the 20 by 20 area,,, nailing down the curled corners of the original roof as I shingle my way up the roof shingling right over the existing roof. At $20 per bundle I could do the four square for about $240 bux. I reason that it's not good practice to shingle over shingles but I have seen lots and lots of roofs shingled over shingles and since I'll have to do the rest of the roof in about 15 years, these need only last that 15 years. Doing it this way also allows me to do the roof at a leisurely pace. (I'm old and heavy) [yes,,,,fat!] What do you think? Does the plan hold water? (No pun) When we had problems with our condo roof, I did lots of research on the product and methods. Ours, Elk, at the time had a pro-rated replacement value based on age of the roof. You may be able to get some help if you know the product used and have the paperwork. Elk had the info online. How's your attic ventillation? |
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Sid Carrol wrote:
I had a 25 year roof installed after my roof was damaged by hail. The original roof had been on about 20 years and was in good shape up to the point the hail beat it to death. This new roof is about 9 years old and I see that its curling (upward) in various sections on the south face of the roof. The roofers want $5700 to do the whole roof and $3K to do the curled face about (20' by 20'). Now since there should be another 15 years left on the remaining 3/4s of the roof and I feel that the $3K is a rip off what I feel I should do is: to re shingle over the 20 by 20 area,,, nailing down the curled corners of the original roof as I shingle my way up the roof shingling right over the existing roof. At $20 per bundle I could do the four square for about $240 bux. I reason that it's not good practice to shingle over shingles but I have seen lots and lots of roofs shingled over shingles and since I'll have to do the rest of the roof in about 15 years, these need only last that 15 years. Doing it this way also allows me to do the roof at a leisurely pace. (I'm old and heavy) [yes,,,,fat!] What do you think? Does the plan hold water? (No pun) I wouldn't want two layers of shingles, but I'm not the one doing the work ) Neither do I know the going rate for the work you need......I assume you have gotten more than one bid?!! If ventillation is part of the problem, you will only add to it by putting on another layer of roofing. If you are able to tear off the old stuff, you could certainly do it in stages and "blue tarp" it or get together some neighbors to help (or hire a roofer who moonlights). The side of the roof getting less sun might last 15 years longer than expected. During a long, tedious process of getting our condo roof problems resolved, I kept bugging my husband and one interested neighbor about the ventillation. They both kept telling me the vents were adequate until they got tired of my bitching and decided to check. Someone had stuffed fiberglass insul. into the roof vent. Probably to keep rats out ) |
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This should be covered under warrantee. Are there attic ventilation or decking issues that contributed to the failure? Will the repair fail prematurely for the same reason? Shingle warranties are prorated and a total joke. The manufacturer always comes up with an unproveable excuse as to why they will not honor the warranty... improper installation is their favorite. They always end up telling you to go **** up a flagpole. |
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They arent Certainteed shingles are they? http://ths.gardenweb.com/forums/load...243518283.html Unfortunately, I think its too late to get any of the settlement money from the class action lawsuit. -dickm On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 12:01:24 -0400, Sid Carrol wrote: Banty wrote: In article , says... On Thu, 19 Jun 2008 08:35:08 -0400, Sid Carrol wrote: I had a 25 year roof installed after my roof was damaged by hail. The original roof had been on about 20 years and was in good shape up to the point the hail beat it to death. This new roof is about 9 years old and I see that its curling (upward) in various sections on the south face of the roof. The roofers want $5700 to do the whole roof and $3K to do the curled face about (20' by 20'). Now since there should be another 15 years left on the remaining 3/4s of the roof and I feel that the $3K is a rip off what I feel I should do is: to re shingle over the 20 by 20 area,,, nailing down the curled corners of the original roof as I shingle my way up the roof shingling right over the existing roof. At $20 per bundle I could do the four square for about $240 bux. I reason that it's not good practice to shingle over shingles but I have seen lots and lots of roofs shingled over shingles and since I'll have to do the rest of the roof in about 15 years, these need only last that 15 years. Doing it this way also allows me to do the roof at a leisurely pace. (I'm old and heavy) [yes,,,,fat!] What do you think? Does the plan hold water? (No pun) This should be covered under warrantee. Are there attic ventilation or decking issues that contributed to the failure? Will the repair fail prematurely for the same reason? Yeah - south side failure, I'm thinking attic ventilation issues, too. Banty I hear you (re ventilation) and everyone else. The thing is that the old roof was going strong at about 20 years when the hail killed it. Same conditions for this new roof and it dies in about 10 One of the funny things about what's happening is for instance: the shingles on the roof overhang on the south east gable end are the worst and you would think that that overhang would be vented better any of the rest of the roof. ?? The other funny thing is that the curled shingles seem to be in rectangular patches inter dispersed all over. So far as the warrenty??? Well we are pretty open about our affairs and have all to frequently loaned our roof file out to one or the other of our neighbours to help them plan. Long story short, when we needed our roof file it wasn't there. The roofer we used has amnesia and the insurance company does not have their records. Totally our fault! Will it fail again?? Probably yes but by then the whole roof will be at the end of it's useful end. Back to the plan!! Anyone see any problems in what I propose to do?? BTW One of the roofer's guides says that curling up is a sign of excess moisture.???? ) |
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Sid,
You have my sympathy but without your file you do not have a warranty and you don't have any idea how many layers of shingles are already on the roof. I'm afraid that tossing on another layer of shingles may lead to a roof collapse. You also don't seem to have any plan for addressing the curling, which may be a symptom of a problem with your roof deck. Go bug the neighbors to try to find the roof file. Look for your cancelled check, that will give you the roofer's name. He should be able to tell you based on the price whether he tore off the old shingles. If you can't find any records I think you need to do a tear off. That will be a big job. Dave M. |
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"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote in message
... On 06/19/08 09:03 am wrote: I had a 25 year roof installed after my roof was damaged by hail. The original roof had been on about 20 years and was in good shape up to the point the hail beat it to death. This new roof is about 9 years old and I see that its curling (upward) in various sections on the south face of the roof. The roofers want $5700 to do the whole roof and $3K to do the curled face about (20' by 20'). snip This should be covered under warrantee. Are there attic ventilation or decking issues that contributed to the failure? Will the repair fail prematurely for the same reason? So if I replace the shingles on the roof of my unventilated shed, any stated warranty on the replacement shingles is meaningless/worthless? Perce Maybe. But it's a shed. What will it need? Two or three bundles of shingles? If you'd waste time chasing a warranty for that kind of money, your time's not worth much. |
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On 06/20/08 06:58 am JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
This should be covered under warrantee. Are there attic ventilation or decking issues that contributed to the failure? Will the repair fail prematurely for the same reason? So if I replace the shingles on the roof of my unventilated shed, any stated warranty on the replacement shingles is meaningless/worthless? Maybe. But it's a shed. What will it need? Two or three bundles of shingles? If you'd waste time chasing a warranty for that kind of money, your time's not worth much. I simply meant that, since the shed is unventilated, the shingles probably will not last as long as advertised. Perce |
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"Percival P. Cassidy" wrote in
: On 06/20/08 06:58 am JoeSpareBedroom wrote: This should be covered under warrantee. Are there attic ventilation or decking issues that contributed to the failure? Will the repair fail prematurely for the same reason? So if I replace the shingles on the roof of my unventilated shed, any stated warranty on the replacement shingles is meaningless/worthless? Maybe. But it's a shed. What will it need? Two or three bundles of shingles? If you'd waste time chasing a warranty for that kind of money, your time's not worth much. I simply meant that, since the shed is unventilated, the shingles probably will not last as long as advertised. Perce Again, it's a shed. It's not living space is the way it's viewed. It is what it is. |
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