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120v any different on 3phase than 1phase?
I am installing a 120v water heater. The panel is 120v/208v rather than the
120v/240v I am used to. It looks pretty much the same; do I do anything differently? |
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120v any different on 3phase than 1phase?
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I am installing a 120v water heater. The panel is 120v/208v rather than the 120v/240v I am used to. It looks pretty much the same; do I do anything differently? Hi, No. |
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"Ted" wrote in message ... I am installing a 120v water heater. The panel is 120v/208v rather than the 120v/240v I am used to. It looks pretty much the same; do I do anything differently? No, you connect to any one of the three hot legs and the neutral. If it were a 240 volt heater, you'd loose some BTU's connecting to 208 |
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Tony Hwang wrote:
Ted wrote: I am installing a 120v water heater. The panel is 120v/208v rather than the 120v/240v I am used to. It looks pretty much the same; do I do anything differently? Hi, No. You are so right. :-) -- Moe Jones http://www.MoeJones.info |
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120v any different on 3phase than 1phase?
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:44:13 -0400, "Ted" wrote:
I am installing a 120v water heater. The panel is 120v/208v rather than the 120v/240v I am used to. It looks pretty much the same; do I do anything differently? I get the feeling you are doing this on a commercial installation. That is a scary question coming from a commercial electrician. |
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120v any different on 3phase than 1phase?
"metspitzer" wrote in message ... On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:44:13 -0400, "Ted" wrote: I am installing a 120v water heater. The panel is 120v/208v rather than the 120v/240v I am used to. It looks pretty much the same; do I do anything differently? I get the feeling you are doing this on a commercial installation. That is a scary question coming from a commercial electrician. They have 3phase to power some very large pumps. I wouldn't touch any of that. This is just a simple 120v water heater; as long as it is the same as 1phase I am fine. |
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120v any different on 3phase than 1phase?
Larry Caldwell wrote: In article , (Ted) says... I am installing a 120v water heater. The panel is 120v/208v rather than the 120v/240v I am used to. It looks pretty much the same; do I do anything differently? Check the leg with a volt meter before making the connection. To balance the vectors in 3-phase, one leg has a higher voltage. Not if it's the 120/208V Y three phase that is found in nearly all light commercial buildings. Delta configurations which may have the high leg are typically found in industrial buildings. |
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120v any different on 3phase than 1phase?
On Jun 8, 11:10 pm, metspitzer wrote:
On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:44:13 -0400, "Ted" wrote: I am installing a 120v water heater. The panel is 120v/208v rather than the 120v/240v I am used to. It looks pretty much the same; do I do anything differently? I get the feeling you are doing this on a commercial installation. That is a scary question coming from a commercial electrician. I get the feeling this is a DIYer or a non-electrician handyman, most likely in an apartment building, though I'm told there are rare cases of single family houses near commercial areas which are supplied with 3-ph. 120V water heaters use more amps than the more common 240V ones, so I'd recommend the OP double-check the ampacity of his cables and breaker. Chip C Toronto |
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120v any different on 3phase than 1phase?
On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 06:55:49 -0700, Larry Caldwell
wrote: In article , (Ted) says... I am installing a 120v water heater. The panel is 120v/208v rather than the 120v/240v I am used to. It looks pretty much the same; do I do anything differently? Check the leg with a volt meter before making the connection. To balance the vectors in 3-phase, one leg has a higher voltage. If you already have a 120 volt panel, the installer will have taken care of this for you. High legs are sometimes found in 240V Delta connected transformers. 120/208 are Y connected. The only time I ever worked in a building where there was a high leg, there was one panel for 3 phase only and a separate panel for single phase. The single phase panel only had the two phases that gave 120V to neutral so there was no way to end up with 190 to neutral. |
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120v any different on 3phase than 1phase?
Larry Caldwell wrote:
In article , (Ted) says... I am installing a 120v water heater. The panel is 120v/208v rather than the 120v/240v I am used to. It looks pretty much the same; do I do anything differently? Check the leg with a volt meter before making the connection. To balance the vectors in 3-phase, one leg has a higher voltage. If you already have a 120 volt panel, the installer will have taken care of this for you. Larry The kind of power arrangement you are talking about is rare and absolutely forbidden inside a dwelling unit in most places. The only time he would have one leg with a higher voltage to ground would be on a delta connected transformer secondary supply. Since the OP specifically said it was Wye connected I don't see were you get the idea that there is a high or "stinger" leg involved. -- Tom Horne "This alternating current stuff is just a fad. It is much too dangerous for general use." Thomas Alva Edison |
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120v any different on 3phase than 1phase?
Larry Caldwell wrote: In article Giz3k.8064$lE3.7721@trnddc05, (Tom Horne) says... The kind of power arrangement you are talking about is rare and absolutely forbidden inside a dwelling unit in most places. The only time he would have one leg with a higher voltage to ground would be on a delta connected transformer secondary supply. Since the OP specifically said it was Wye connected I don't see were you get the idea that there is a high or "stinger" leg involved. The OP did not say it was a wye configuration. He said it was "The panel is 120v/208v" which automatically tells us that it is a wye configuration, since there is no such thing as a 120/208V delta configuration. |
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Tom Horne wrote:
Larry The kind of power arrangement you are talking about is rare and absolutely forbidden inside a dwelling unit in most places. My house in Dallas, Texas has Wye 3 phase power. -- Doug |
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