I live in Texas where septic systems are pretty well governed. They
require that the aerator systems be adequately chlorinated... which I
am grateful I don't have to smell my neighbors discharge. However, I
am becoming annoyed at spending $180+ every year for chlorine tablets
when I understand liquid bleach dispensers are also allowed by law.
However, these dispensers typically run $300 and look like PVC pipes I
could get from my local home supply stores. I want to try and do it
myself and save the $300 equipment/installation cost and start using
household bleach.

Question 1) Can anyone point me to plans how to build my own?
Question 2) From my research, it appears ~1 gallon/month is the
typical bleach usage. Does this sound correct to people who already
use/know about bleach dispensers?
Question 3) Absent any plans, and believing the usage is ~1 gallon/
month, I believe I could cap a PVC pipe to hold some bleach and
integrate an IV drip dispenser. According to my math (which I won't
go into here unless requested), I figure I can set the IV drip on a 60
drop/ml to 1 drop every 11.4 seconds to dispense ~1 gallon of bleach/
month. By placing this dispenser between my two tanks (where I
currently drop the chlorine tablets) I expect I would achieve
approximately the same mixing effect as I do with tablets. The end
effect of this is for $20 I could build my dispenser and start using
household bleach saving an additional $150+ each year.

Thoughts/Corrections/Answers?

Thanks in advance!

Thoughts/Corrections/Answers?

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Anthony wrote:
I live in Texas where septic systems are pretty well governed. They
require that the aerator systems be adequately chlorinated... which I
am grateful I don't have to smell my neighbors discharge. However, I
am becoming annoyed at spending $180+ every year for chlorine tablets
when I understand liquid bleach dispensers are also allowed by law.
However, these dispensers typically run $300 and look like PVC pipes I
could get from my local home supply stores. I want to try and do it
myself and save the $300 equipment/installation cost and start using
household bleach.

Question 1) Can anyone point me to plans how to build my own?
Question 2) From my research, it appears ~1 gallon/month is the
typical bleach usage. Does this sound correct to people who already
use/know about bleach dispensers?
Question 3) Absent any plans, and believing the usage is ~1 gallon/
month, I believe I could cap a PVC pipe to hold some bleach and
integrate an IV drip dispenser. According to my math (which I won't
go into here unless requested), I figure I can set the IV drip on a 60
drop/ml to 1 drop every 11.4 seconds to dispense ~1 gallon of bleach/
month. By placing this dispenser between my two tanks (where I
currently drop the chlorine tablets) I expect I would achieve
approximately the same mixing effect as I do with tablets. The end
effect of this is for $20 I could build my dispenser and start using
household bleach saving an additional $150+ each year.

Thoughts/Corrections/Answers?

Thanks in advance!

Having worked as a chemist in industry, I can tell you that continuous
processes require continuous monitoring. I would prefer a system that
did not always need my attention.

Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:
Anthony wrote:
I live in Texas where septic systems are pretty well governed. They
require that the aerator systems be adequately chlorinated... which I
am grateful I don't have to smell my neighbors discharge. However, I
am becoming annoyed at spending $180+ every year for chlorine tablets
when I understand liquid bleach dispensers are also allowed by law.
However, these dispensers typically run $300 and look like PVC pipes
I could get from my local home supply stores. I want to try and do
it myself and save the $300 equipment/installation cost and start
using household bleach.

Question 1) Can anyone point me to plans how to build my own?
Question 2) From my research, it appears ~1 gallon/month is the
typical bleach usage. Does this sound correct to people who already
use/know about bleach dispensers?
Question 3) Absent any plans, and believing the usage is ~1 gallon/
month, I believe I could cap a PVC pipe to hold some bleach and
integrate an IV drip dispenser. According to my math (which I won't
go into here unless requested), I figure I can set the IV drip on a
60 drop/ml to 1 drop every 11.4 seconds to dispense ~1 gallon of
bleach/ month. By placing this dispenser between my two tanks
(where I currently drop the chlorine tablets) I expect I would
achieve approximately the same mixing effect as I do with tablets. The end effect of this is for $20 I could build
my dispenser and
start using household bleach saving an additional $150+ each year.

Thoughts/Corrections/Answers?

Thanks in advance!

Having worked as a chemist in industry, I can tell you that continuous
processes require continuous monitoring. I would prefer a system that
did not always need my attention.

Doesnt mean that the continuous monitoring has to be done by an individual.

On Feb 8, 7:18*am, Frank frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:
Anthony wrote:
I live in Texas where septic systems are pretty well governed. *They
require that the aerator systems be adequately chlorinated... which I
am grateful I don't have to smell my neighbors discharge. *However, I
am becoming annoyed at spending $180+ every year for chlorine tablets
when I understandliquidbleach dispensers are also allowed by law.
However, these dispensers typically run $300 and look like PVC pipes I
could get from my local home supply stores. *I want to try and do it
myself and save the $300 equipment/installation cost and start using
household bleach.

Question 1) Can anyone point me to plans how to build my own?
Question 2) From my research, it appears ~1 gallon/month is the
typical bleach usage. *Does this sound correct to people who already
use/know about bleach dispensers?
Question 3) Absent any plans, and believing the usage is ~1 gallon/
month, I believe I could cap a PVC pipe to hold some bleach and
integrate an IV drip dispenser. *According to my math (which I won't
go into here unless requested), I figure I can set the IV drip on a 60
drop/ml to 1 drop every 11.4 seconds to dispense ~1 gallon of bleach/
month. *By placing this dispenser between my two tanks (where I
currently drop the chlorine tablets) I expect I would achieve
approximately the same mixing effect as I do with tablets. *The end
effect of this is for $20 I could build my dispenser and start using
household bleach saving an additional $150+ each year.

Thoughts/Corrections/Answers?

Thanks in advance!

Having worked as a chemist in industry, I can tell you that continuous
processes require continuous monitoring. *I would prefer a system that
did not always need my attention.- Hide quoted text -

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Agreed. Right now I'm dropping chlorine tablets in nearly every
weekend. Talk about your systems that need attention! :-(

Not knowing how your existing system is set-up, your main problem will be to
regulate the chlorine to the flow. Generally with tablets, the higher the
flow, the faster they dissolve. If your system does not batch discharge, you
will want to regulate the chlorine so that more (or rather faster drop rate)
is injected during peak flow periods in order to achieve proper disinfection
(and odor control). You want to keep the chlorine at about 1.0 PPM to 4.0
PPM to achieve disinfection (closer to 1.0 PPM is better). You need to base
your usage (volume required) calculation on flow and usage as opposed to an
average of 1 gallon/month.
The other problem you have to deal with is that liquid chlorine injection
systems do have a tendancy to clog under certain circumstances.
You will still have to conduct maintainence of the system on a regular
basis.
Don't know any plans offhand but try googling it might just work.


"Anthony" wrote in message
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I live in Texas where septic systems are pretty well governed. They
require that the aerator systems be adequately chlorinated... which I
am grateful I don't have to smell my neighbors discharge. However, I
am becoming annoyed at spending $180+ every year for chlorine tablets
when I understand liquid bleach dispensers are also allowed by law.
However, these dispensers typically run $300 and look like PVC pipes I
could get from my local home supply stores. I want to try and do it
myself and save the $300 equipment/installation cost and start using
household bleach.

Question 1) Can anyone point me to plans how to build my own?
Question 2) From my research, it appears ~1 gallon/month is the
typical bleach usage. Does this sound correct to people who already
use/know about bleach dispensers?
Question 3) Absent any plans, and believing the usage is ~1 gallon/
month, I believe I could cap a PVC pipe to hold some bleach and
integrate an IV drip dispenser. According to my math (which I won't
go into here unless requested), I figure I can set the IV drip on a 60
drop/ml to 1 drop every 11.4 seconds to dispense ~1 gallon of bleach/
month. By placing this dispenser between my two tanks (where I
currently drop the chlorine tablets) I expect I would achieve
approximately the same mixing effect as I do with tablets. The end
effect of this is for $20 I could build my dispenser and start using
household bleach saving an additional $150+ each year.

Thoughts/Corrections/Answers?

Thanks in advance!

Anthony writes:

Thoughts/Corrections/Answers?

There is no way to meter liquid chlorinator without regular attention and
maintenance.

"Anthony" wrote in message
...
I live in Texas where septic systems are pretty well governed. They
require that the aerator systems be adequately chlorinated... which I
am grateful I don't have to smell my neighbors discharge. However, I
am becoming annoyed at spending $180+ every year for chlorine tablets
when I understand liquid bleach dispensers are also allowed by law.
However, these dispensers typically run $300 and look like PVC pipes I
could get from my local home supply stores. I want to try and do it
myself and save the $300 equipment/installation cost and start using
household bleach.

Could be much worse, around here being connected to the public sewer system
costs twice what you're paying for tablets, maybe more.

Question 1) Can anyone point me to plans how to build my own?
Question 2) From my research, it appears ~1 gallon/month is the
typical bleach usage. Does this sound correct to people who already
use/know about bleach dispensers?
Question 3) Absent any plans, and believing the usage is ~1 gallon/
month, I believe I could cap a PVC pipe to hold some bleach and
integrate an IV drip dispenser. According to my math (which I won't
go into here unless requested), I figure I can set the IV drip on a 60
drop/ml to 1 drop every 11.4 seconds to dispense ~1 gallon of bleach/
month. By placing this dispenser between my two tanks (where I
currently drop the chlorine tablets) I expect I would achieve
approximately the same mixing effect as I do with tablets. The end
effect of this is for $20 I could build my dispenser and start using
household bleach saving an additional $150+ each year.

I don't have any kind of picture of what you're driving at, but a few
questions pop to mind.

Is this stuff located outside? What do you do about freezing? And will a
gallon of bleach in this thing hold onto the chlorine or will the chlorine
evaporate off, leaving you carefully dripping water into your system. And
lastly, since you say septic systems are pretty well governed, what are the
legal requirements? Would doing something like this mean you are installing
a proprietary treatment system that needs to be tested and licensed? Will
something like this require you to have a maintenance contract, or get
training from a licensed installer?

I thought there were exacting requirements for what the chlorine does -
something like kill 99% of bacteria in the effluent within a stated period
of time. It's a bit of a stretch to think that a drop of bleach every 11
seconds will do that.

replying to Lou, Mike2501 wrote:
lpogodajr292185 wrote:

"Anthony" wrote in message
...
Could be much worse, around here being connected to the public sewer system
costs twice what you're paying for tablets, maybe more.
I don't have any kind of picture of what you're driving at, but a few
questions pop to mind.
Is this stuff located outside? What do you do about freezing? And will a
gallon of bleach in this thing hold onto the chlorine or will the chlorine
evaporate off, leaving you carefully dripping water into your system. And
lastly, since you say septic systems are pretty well governed, what are the
legal requirements? Would doing something like this mean you are
installing
a proprietary treatment system that needs to be tested and licensed? Will
something like this require you to have a maintenance contract, or get
training from a licensed installer?
I thought there were exacting requirements for what the chlorine does -
something like kill 99% of bacteria in the effluent within a stated period
of time. It's a bit of a stretch to think that a drop of bleach every 11
seconds will do that.



For the most part, at least in texas, there are two types of septic
systems. The original is a totally in ground system that requires very
little attention besides dropping some additives down the sink or toilet
every once in a while to keep things alive and eating the bad stuff in
there, then every so msny years have the tank sucked clean.

The second is the aerobic system. This is typically for areas that dont
have very much earth depth or you lack proper yard space to have a leech
field. I have an aerobic system, unfortunately, but have enough space to
have a conventional, it was already here when I bought the place.

The chlorine type tablets that we use (NOT pool tabs!) are getting stupid
expensive. Ten years ago a bucket was like 50 bucks,now its over 80!!
Insanity! Its a rape price for a standard, cheap chemical. Aerobic
systems are 'regulated' if you want to call it that. You have to get a
maintenance contract, but there is no maintenance, preventative or
otherwise, going on! They come out, test to make sure the pump works and
the alarm sounds properly, check for tabs and look to see if ants are into
anything and that is it.

They come out quarterly I think, and I get written up off and on for not
having tablets in the drop chute. ...but heres the deal with that... If I
kept them in there constantly it would EASILY go through an entire bucket
in less than a month. Just doing laundry and showers goes through them
like crazy, so I meter them out every so often and will drop in three.
Even the amount I put in is overkill, you can poke your head in the tank
and it smells way worse than a shocked swimming pool!! If they were doing
their job, which they dont, they would do a water test when they dont see
tabs in the tank. ...but that would take too long and they would have to
do their job! (Heaven forbid) ...they dont even clean the air filter!

The city is just as bad, they'll send me a letter for something that
happened six months ago and is already fixed, which they would know if
they looked at current records,meanwhile the guy a couple houses down
across the street has an in ground septic with a busted leech field pipe
that is flooding the back pasture with sewage. His neighbor has bitched to
the city and they do nothing (because they dont like him) ...for years!
He finally called the EPA and they came out this weekend, heh.

I'm going to build a liquid bleach dispenser myself, I've seen pictures of
numerous brands, ALL made out of nothing but PVC and clear tubing.
The design I think Ive settled on not only has a sort of drip but has a
suction line tied into the sprinkler head line, so that when the sprinkler
comes on it injects bleach into the sprinkler line AND injects bleach down
into the main tank. The reservoir for the bleach is heavy sched bury
PVC, 4 to 6" and is set down into the tank, though you could make small
ones, Im going to make a nice 8' Tall one that sits in the tank so I can
load it up with at least ten gallons of bleach.
I expect the usage, just for me and my wife, to be more than the one
gallon a month I see being listed. Ill adjust the flow rate a bit high.
Im not going to use injector nipples either, Im going to use shutoff ball
valves so I have nice control over the flow/pull rate.






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replying to Anthony, Km wrote:
I just bought one. They are cheap to buy considering they will pay for
themselves in a short time. I made a short video on how I installed mine. I
bought mine made by LBC. https://youtu.be/ltuUtu5qKiU

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replying to Km, Kevin Withers wrote:
Not sure why anyone would pay the 200 bucks they want for these system. Just
make your own venturi that is all you are paying for. You can test how
effective it is using a fish tank pump and air. It is the concept they are
using and sell for 200+ dollars. I like this idea of putting the holding
reservoir inside the tank so you don't have dig out a trench for it.

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replying to Mike2501, Charley wrote:
Hello Mike - were you successful in building your own system? Would you mind
sharing what parts you used?

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replying to Anthony, Charley wrote:
Anthony - were you able to build a liquid dispenser? Would you mind sharing
your experience along with any parts used? Thanks

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