I have seen charging instructions that say to fully charge the battery
before first use.

A friend of mine just bought a cell phone. He took it home and
plugged into the charger and went online to activate it. He never
once looked at the manual.

I tried to tell him he should charge the phone fully first. He said
that only applies to devices that only work on battery only. Because
he had the phone plugged into the wall that it was ok to use right
away.

Who is right?

On Dec 17, 2:27 pm, Terry wrote:
I have seen charging instructions that say to fully charge the battery
before first use.

A friend of mine just bought a cell phone. He took it home and
plugged into the charger and went online to activate it. He never
once looked at the manual.

I tried to tell him he should charge the phone fully first. He said
that only applies to devices that only work on battery only. Because
he had the phone plugged into the wall that it was ok to use right
away.

Who is right?

He is

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:27:50 -0500, Terry
wrote:

I have seen charging instructions that say to fully charge the battery
before first use.

A friend of mine just bought a cell phone. He took it home and
plugged into the charger and went online to activate it. He never
once looked at the manual.

I tried to tell him he should charge the phone fully first. He said
that only applies to devices that only work on battery only. Because
he had the phone plugged into the wall that it was ok to use right
away.

Who is right?

Your friend.

Most all cell phones use a lithium ion rechargeable battery. You
are told to charge it first so that your phone is more than just a
doorstop. Plugging the charger in and using the phone is perfectly
acceptable. The phone draws off the charger and not the battery.
This will not harm the Li-ion battery. The battery will just have to
wait its turn.

For cordless house phones the story is different. They use Ni-Cads
normally and sometimes NIMH batteries. They should be charged
fully after installation especially with the Ni-Cads. This full
initial charge is the best way to insure that the battery conditions
itself to accept full charges.

In article ,
wrote:

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 15:27:50 -0500, Terry
wrote:

I have seen charging instructions that say to fully charge the battery
before first use.

A friend of mine just bought a cell phone. He took it home and
plugged into the charger and went online to activate it. He never
once looked at the manual.

I tried to tell him he should charge the phone fully first. He said
that only applies to devices that only work on battery only. Because
he had the phone plugged into the wall that it was ok to use right
away.

Who is right?

Your friend.

Most all cell phones use a lithium ion rechargeable battery. You
are told to charge it first so that your phone is more than just a
doorstop. Plugging the charger in and using the phone is perfectly
acceptable. The phone draws off the charger and not the battery.
This will not harm the Li-ion battery. The battery will just have to
wait its turn.

For cordless house phones the story is different. They use Ni-Cads
normally and sometimes NIMH batteries. They should be charged
fully after installation especially with the Ni-Cads. This full
initial charge is the best way to insure that the battery conditions
itself to accept full charges.

(And even that sorry old wives' tale about Ni-cad "memory" is full of
holes.)

(And even that sorry old wives' tale about Ni-cad "memory" is full of
holes.)

As far as using the term 'memory" yes, but Ni-Cads do
prefer full charges or varied charges over repeated light
charges. Repeated light charges will diminish the batteries
capacity. That fact is not full of holes.

In article ,
wrote:


(And even that sorry old wives' tale about Ni-cad "memory" is full of
holes.)

As far as using the term 'memory" yes, but Ni-Cads do
prefer full charges or varied charges over repeated light
charges. Repeated light charges will diminish the batteries
capacity. That fact is not full of holes.

The most you can deplete a ni-cad battery's full-charge voltage, by
subjecting it to less than perfect charge/discharge cycles, is a measly
5%. Can you name a battery-powered gadget that won't operate at 95% of
its design voltage?

On Mon, 17 Dec 2007 19:55:11 -0800, Smitty Two
wrote:

In article ,
wrote:


(And even that sorry old wives' tale about Ni-cad "memory" is full of
holes.)

As far as using the term 'memory" yes, but Ni-Cads do
prefer full charges or varied charges over repeated light
charges. Repeated light charges will diminish the batteries
capacity. That fact is not full of holes.

The most you can deplete a ni-cad battery's full-charge voltage, by
subjecting it to less than perfect charge/discharge cycles, is a measly
5%. Can you name a battery-powered gadget that won't operate at 95% of
its design voltage?

So Ni-Cads are perpetual voltage?

95% of voltage is NOT 95% of capacity.

If you've every used Ni-Cads you'd know they don't last forever.
You'd also know that premium battery chargers include battery
reconditioners that help to rejuvenate low capacity Ni-Cads.

using it whilst plugged in is ok. Hell, using it with the factory battery
not fully charged is ok. Not using it at all is ok. Charging it and not
using it is ok. Hell, who cares?

s


"Terry" wrote in message
...
I have seen charging instructions that say to fully charge the battery
before first use.

A friend of mine just bought a cell phone. He took it home and
plugged into the charger and went online to activate it. He never
once looked at the manual.

I tried to tell him he should charge the phone fully first. He said
that only applies to devices that only work on battery only. Because
he had the phone plugged into the wall that it was ok to use right
away.

Who is right?