Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

Had to put on all the clothes I owned. Even had to get another blanket.

From the attic.

At least we didn't have to evacuate to a shelter like so many. Fortunately,
we have plenty of food; neighbors are stocking up on canned goods and
bottled water.

I'm not sure whether they're going to close the schools or the roads. Mail
delivery is likewise iffy.

In article ,
"HeyBub" wrote:

Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

Had to put on all the clothes I owned. Even had to get another blanket.

From the attic.

At least we didn't have to evacuate to a shelter like so many. Fortunately,
we have plenty of food; neighbors are stocking up on canned goods and
bottled water.

I'm not sure whether they're going to close the schools or the roads. Mail
delivery is likewise iffy.

Wow. 38. Only 78 degrees warmer than the temp I used to walk six blocks
to school in when I was in elementary and junior high. I remember one
six-week period during which the temp never rose above zero F. Forty
below was common, in the days before global warming...

In article
,
Smitty Two wrote:


Wow. 38. Only 78 degrees warmer than the temp I used to walk six blocks
to school in when I was in elementary and junior high. I remember one
six-week period during which the temp never rose above zero F. Forty
below was common, in the days before global warming...

It was uphill both ways, too, right?
It is all what you are used to. Living in Indiana, I get a kick
when the Weather Bureau posts wind chill warnings for Florida's
panhandle when WIND CHILLS get down to 32 or so.

Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article
,
Smitty Two wrote:


Wow. 38. Only 78 degrees warmer than the temp I used to walk six blocks
to school in when I was in elementary and junior high. I remember one
six-week period during which the temp never rose above zero F. Forty
below was common, in the days before global warming...


It was uphill both ways, too, right?
It is all what you are used to. Living in Indiana, I get a kick
when the Weather Bureau posts wind chill warnings for Florida's
panhandle when WIND CHILLS get down to 32 or so.

seriously

One winter I was working in the UP of Michigan and they had a snowmobile
race just outside the hotel I was staying at (near the International
Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie) anyway of course we went to watch - it was
literally about 2 degrees out, and was fairly tolerable... until I
decided I wanted a cup of coffee and started to walk back to the hotel,
and realized that there was a decently brisk wind, and it'd been at my
back the whole time I was standing there... woo, that's cold!

And there were a whole mess of guys out there racing snowmobiles the
whole time...

nate

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On Dec 16, 10:02 am, Nate Nagel wrote:
Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article
,
Smitty Two wrote:

Wow. 38. Only 78 degrees warmer than the temp I used to walk six blocks
to school in when I was in elementary and junior high. I remember one
six-week period during which the temp never rose above zero F. Forty
below was common, in the days before global warming...

It was uphill both ways, too, right?
It is all what you are used to. Living in Indiana, I get a kick
when the Weather Bureau posts wind chill warnings for Florida's
panhandle when WIND CHILLS get down to 32 or so.

seriously

One winter I was working in the UP of Michigan and they had a snowmobile
race just outside the hotel I was staying at (near the International
Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie) anyway of course we went to watch - it was
literally about 2 degrees out, and was fairly tolerable... until I
decided I wanted a cup of coffee and started to walk back to the hotel,
and realized that there was a decently brisk wind, and it'd been at my
back the whole time I was standing there... woo, that's cold!

And there were a whole mess of guys out there racing snowmobiles the
whole time...

nate

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Wow 38f, you must be suffering, cold is -- 40f, take a pee outside and
it freezes before it hits the ground and pops, 38 f is springtime
weather.

On Dec 16, 1:02 pm, Nate Nagel wrote:
Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article
,
Smitty Two wrote:

Wow. 38. Only 78 degrees warmer than the temp I used to walk six blocks
to school in when I was in elementary and junior high. I remember one
six-week period during which the temp never rose above zero F. Forty
below was common, in the days before global warming...

It was uphill both ways, too, right?
It is all what you are used to. Living in Indiana, I get a kick
when the Weather Bureau posts wind chill warnings for Florida's
panhandle when WIND CHILLS get down to 32 or so.

seriously

One winter I was working in the UP of Michigan and they had a snowmobile
race just outside the hotel I was staying at (near the International
Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie) anyway of course we went to watch - it was
literally about 2 degrees out, and was fairly tolerable... until I
decided I wanted a cup of coffee and started to walk back to the hotel,
and realized that there was a decently brisk wind, and it'd been at my
back the whole time I was standing there... woo, that's cold!

And there were a whole mess of guys out there racing snowmobiles the
whole time...

nate

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You don't no cold. I worked a stint in Labrador City in 2006. Dipped
down to -40c (in the -50's f). Forget plugging in your truck at night
- we kept it running 24/7. Add a wind chill on that - now thats cold.
+2F - wear shorts and a sweat shirt in that weather

wrote in
:

On Dec 16, 1:02 pm, Nate Nagel wrote:
Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article
,
Smitty Two wrote:

Wow. 38. Only 78 degrees warmer than the temp I used to walk six
blocks to school in when I was in elementary and junior high. I
remember one six-week period during which the temp never rose above
zero F. Forty below was common, in the days before global
warming...

It was uphill both ways, too, right?
It is all what you are used to. Living in Indiana, I get a
kick
when the Weather Bureau posts wind chill warnings for Florida's
panhandle when WIND CHILLS get down to 32 or so.

seriously

One winter I was working in the UP of Michigan and they had a
snowmobile race just outside the hotel I was staying at (near the
International Bridge in Sault Ste. Marie) anyway of course we went to
watch - it was literally about 2 degrees out, and was fairly
tolerable... until I decided I wanted a cup of coffee and started to
walk back to the hotel, and realized that there was a decently brisk
wind, and it'd been at my back the whole time I was standing there...
woo, that's cold!

And there were a whole mess of guys out there racing snowmobiles the
whole time...

nate

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reply.http://members.cox.net/njnagel- Hide quoted text -

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You don't no cold. I worked a stint in Labrador City in 2006. Dipped
down to -40c (in the -50's f).

Wrong. -40 is the same in C or F. Veify on Google by typing "-40 f to c" in
the search bar. If you don't believe Google, solve the two temp conversion
formulas simultaneously. Equal at -40. Easier to trust Google on this one
:-)


Forget plugging in your truck at night
- we kept it running 24/7. Add a wind chill on that - now thats cold.
+2F - wear shorts and a sweat shirt in that weather

In article , wrote:

You don't no cold. I worked a stint in Labrador City in 2006. Dipped
down to -40c (in the -50's f).

Actually, minus 40 C and minus 40 F are the same.

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It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

In article , Kurt Ullman wrote:
It is all what you are used to. Living in Indiana, I get a kick
when the Weather Bureau posts wind chill warnings for Florida's
panhandle when WIND CHILLS get down to 32 or so.

Yep. I've lived in Indianapolis for 30+ years. In about '85 or so, I was in
Atlanta on business for two weeks, ending just before Labor Day. A day or two
before the trip ended, a cold front came through, and the overnight low
actually dipped down below 70 degrees, all the way to 67.

Next morning, the weatherman on TV said "Well, folks, summer's over, fall's
here, and winter's coming. Chilly day today, with the high only 74."

People were actually wearing jackets and sweaters! And for the first time in
two weeks, I felt comfortable outdoors.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

In article ,
(Doug Miller) wrote:

In article ,
Kurt Ullman wrote:
It is all what you are used to. Living in Indiana, I get a kick
when the Weather Bureau posts wind chill warnings for Florida's
panhandle when WIND CHILLS get down to 32 or so.

Yep. I've lived in Indianapolis for 30+ years.
Did you get all dug out today? Weather dudes couldn't make up
their minds yesterday so gave a bit of everything....

In article , Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article ,
(Doug Miller) wrote:

In article ,

Kurt Ullman wrote:
It is all what you are used to. Living in Indiana, I get a kick
when the Weather Bureau posts wind chill warnings for Florida's
panhandle when WIND CHILLS get down to 32 or so.

Yep. I've lived in Indianapolis for 30+ years.
Did you get all dug out today? Weather dudes couldn't make up
their minds yesterday so gave a bit of everything....

Yeah, no problem -- wife and I got back from visiting friends late Saturday
afternoon to find that our 16-yo son had shoveled the driveway. We didn't get
enough snow in Round Two to bother shoveling again. How about you?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

On Dec 16, 11:07 am, Kurt Ullman wrote:
In article
,
Smitty Two wrote:



Wow. 38. Only 78 degrees warmer than the temp I used to walk six blocks
to school in when I was in elementary and junior high. I remember one
six-week period during which the temp never rose above zero F. Forty
below was common, in the days before global warming...

It was uphill both ways, too, right?
It is all what you are used to. Living in Indiana, I get a kick
when the Weather Bureau posts wind chill warnings for Florida's
panhandle when WIND CHILLS get down to 32 or so.

Hey! To us floridians, 32 is DAMN COLD!

On Dec 18, 11:53 am, wrote:
On Dec 16, 11:07 am, Kurt Ullman wrote:

In article
,
Smitty Two wrote:

Wow. 38. Only 78 degrees warmer than the temp I used to walk six blocks
to school in when I was in elementary and junior high. I remember one
six-week period during which the temp never rose above zero F. Forty
below was common, in the days before global warming...

It was uphill both ways, too, right?
It is all what you are used to. Living in Indiana, I get a kick
when the Weather Bureau posts wind chill warnings for Florida's
panhandle when WIND CHILLS get down to 32 or so.

Hey! To us floridians, 32 is DAMN COLD!

I don't say "damn cold" until it's cold enough that the snot freezes
right in your nose when you inhale. Around 0 F. Anything else
is merely "cold".

Cindy Hamilton

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 12:01:50 -0800 (PST), Cindy Hamilton
wrote:
-snip-
I don't say "damn cold" until it's cold enough that the snot freezes
right in your nose when you inhale. Around 0 F. Anything else
is merely "cold".


I think it's gotta get to 20 below or so for that. [but my nose is
insulated with a mustache, so YMMV]

Coldest weather I've been out in, we were tobogganing one night by a
friend's cabin. Cabin at bottom of hill- About a mile by 4WD
truck to top of hill. If we grabbed a beer in the cabin, by the time
we got to the top of the hill it had to be consumed- or it would be
frozen in the can.

We had to switch to Jack Daniels & pass the bottles around.

Jim
[and it might be a NY thing-- but we were all buck naked under our
clothes even on that night.]

On Tue, 18 Dec 2007 08:53:58 -0800 (PST), wrote:



Hey! To us floridians, 32 is DAMN COLD!

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On Dec 16, 8:02 am, Smitty Two wrote:
In article ,

"HeyBub" wrote:
Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

Had to put on all the clothes I owned. Even had to get another blanket.

From the attic.

At least we didn't have to evacuate to a shelter like so many. Fortunately,
we have plenty of food; neighbors are stocking up on canned goods and
bottled water.

I'm not sure whether they're going to close the schools or the roads. Mail
delivery is likewise iffy.

Wow. 38. Only 78 degrees warmer than the temp I used to walk six blocks
to school in when I was in elementary and junior high. I remember one
six-week period during which the temp never rose above zero F. Forty
below was common, in the days before global warming...

That was in July, right? BTDT but in my case it was in June and my
walk was 2 miles...

Harry K

HeyBub wrote:
Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

Had to put on all the clothes I owned. Even had to get another blanket.
....



Mother's family in The Valley around Pharr/McAllen area -- used to go
down for Christmas on occasion. Invariably would be in 40s/low 50s and
wet/damp. W/ no heat of significance in house would feel colder more
miserable than if stayed home in 20F conditions...

We're toasty this AM at 19F -- areas around w/ heavier snowfall/ice at
the 0-10F mark. No wind today and bright sun, so feels pretty good,
actually.

--

dpb, my folks are in Harlingen, so I know what you are talking about.
Planning to get down there next weekend. Our neighborhood was built in
1957--we moved there in Jan. 1961. All the houses have gas jets in every
room for space heaters, but the original owners of our house had central
heat added. Funny, we the only ones with CH for years, and then one of
the last to get central air. I put in the system in 1995. We started
off with 2, and ended up with 5 window shakers before that. If you go
down there for the Holidays, have a good trip. Larry Btw,
when we moved there, Harlingen and McAllen were about the same size--not
anymore for sure. McAllen is a big city, Harlingen still nothing.

lp13-30 wrote:
dpb, my folks are in Harlingen, so I know what you are talking about.
Planning to get down there next weekend. Our neighborhood was built in
1957--we moved there in Jan. 1961. ...

That's about the last time I was in the Valley -- after grandparents
passed didn't make it much. Their place is outside town a ways still;
part of the first citrus folks moved there from E KS during the 30s.
Uncle still has the place although they've only put back very small
fraction of the orchards since the major freezes of what--15-20 years
ago or so, now I guess...

--

dpb wrote:
....
part of the first citrus folks moved there from E KS during the 30s.
Uncle still has the place although they've only put back very small
fraction of the orchards since the major freezes of what--15-20 years
ago or so, now I guess...

That being "groves", of course -- clearly the flatland wheat farmer
doesn't know diddley about citrus...

--

dpb wrote:

HeyBub wrote:

Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

Had to put on all the clothes I owned. Even had to get another blanket.

...



Mother's family in The Valley around Pharr/McAllen area -- used to go
down for Christmas on occasion. Invariably would be in 40s/low 50s and
wet/damp. W/ no heat of significance in house would feel colder more
miserable than if stayed home in 20F conditions...

We're toasty this AM at 19F -- areas around w/ heavier snowfall/ice at
the 0-10F mark. No wind today and bright sun, so feels pretty good,
actually.

--

Here in Texas I walked around in shorts and a t-shirt.

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On Dec 16, 7:52 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

Had to put on all the clothes I owned. Even had to get another blanket.

From the attic.

At least we didn't have to evacuate to a shelter like so many. Fortunately,
we have plenty of food; neighbors are stocking up on canned goods and
bottled water.

I'm not sure whether they're going to close the schools or the roads. Mail
delivery is likewise iffy.

Awww...I feel for you. I just chunked a couple pieces on the fire.
Must be up to around 74 in here now as I sit typing in my t-shirt and
shorts.
Was out restocking the porch from the woodshed yesterday with
windchill down around 10.

Harry K

"Harry K" wrote in message
...
On Dec 16, 7:52 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

Had to put on all the clothes I owned. Even had to get another blanket.

From the attic.

At least we didn't have to evacuate to a shelter like so many.
Fortunately,
we have plenty of food; neighbors are stocking up on canned goods and
bottled water.

I'm not sure whether they're going to close the schools or the roads.
Mail
delivery is likewise iffy.

Awww...I feel for you. I just chunked a couple pieces on the fire.
Must be up to around 74 in here now as I sit typing in my t-shirt and
shorts.
Was out restocking the porch from the woodshed yesterday with
windchill down around 10.

Harry K

You DO know that burning wood is very BAD for the environment! I guess you
don't care much about the health of the planet.

You ARE kidding, right?


s


"Madx" wrote in message
...
You DO know that burning wood is very BAD for the environment! I guess
you
don't care much about the health of the planet.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:52:44 -0800, "Madx" wrote
Re Damn, it's cold:

You DO know that burning wood is very BAD for the environment! I guess you
don't care much about the health of the planet.

Wood burning is carbon-neutral in any period less than roughly 100
years.

Last night here in California we were advised that there was a spare the air
alert and to refrain from wood fires. So if it is not harmful why would it
be all over the news NOT to make a fire?


"Caesar Romano" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:52:44 -0800, "Madx" wrote
Re Damn, it's cold:

You DO know that burning wood is very BAD for the environment! I guess
you
don't care much about the health of the planet.

Wood burning is carbon-neutral in any period less than roughly 100
years.

Madx wrote:
Last night here in California we were advised that there was a spare the air
alert and to refrain from wood fires. So if it is not harmful why would it
be all over the news NOT to make a fire?

It's currently the PC position comes to mind?

More realistically in a metro area it is a particulate source which can
be a problem.

--

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 12:48:09 -0800, "Madx" wrote
Re Damn, it's cold:

Last night here in California we were advised that there was a spare the air
alert and to refrain from wood fires. So if it is not harmful why would it
be all over the news NOT to make a fire?

The original post referred to wood burning being bad for the *planet*.
The LA or SF or SD air basins are not the planet. They are
environmental aberrations cause by man over crowding a basin created
by too many people in one place, mountains, on-shore breezes and
inversions.

You people in La La land think the world evolves around you but it
doesn't.

Moron

Uh, maybe it's specific to YOUR location, and how some folks operate
non-EPA-compliant woodstoves. Think: population density & inversion
layering.

So your blanket statement is kinda irrelevant here.

John

On Dec 16, 3:48 pm, "Madx" wrote:
Last night here in California we were advised that there was a spare the air
alert and to refrain from wood fires. So if it is not harmful why would it
be all over the news NOT to make a fire?

"Caesar Romano" wrote in message

...

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:52:44 -0800, "Madx" wrote
Re Damn, it's cold:

You DO know that burning wood is very BAD for the environment! I guess
you
don't care much about the health of the planet.

Wood burning is carbon-neutral in any period less than roughly 100
years.

On Dec 16, 4:52 pm, "Madx" wrote:
"Harry K" wrote in message

...





On Dec 16, 7:52 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

Had to put on all the clothes I owned. Even had to get another blanket.

From the attic.

At least we didn't have to evacuate to a shelter like so many.
Fortunately,
we have plenty of food; neighbors are stocking up on canned goods and
bottled water.

I'm not sure whether they're going to close the schools or the roads.
Mail
delivery is likewise iffy.

Awww...Ifeel for you. I just chunked a couple pieces on the fire.
Must be up to around 74 in here now as I sit typing in my t-shirt and
shorts.
Was out restocking the porch from the woodshed yesterday with
windchill down around 10.

Harry K

You DO know that burning wood is very BAD for the environment! I guess you
don't care much about the health of the planet.- Hide quoted text -

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Actually well seasoned wood when burned properly in a decent stove
emits about the same amount of C02 as the same tree, fallen and left
to rot on the forest floor.

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 11:52:44 -0800, "Madx" wrote:


You DO know that burning wood is very BAD for the environment! I guess you
don't care much about the health of the planet.


When Al Snore practices what he preaches, I might listen. Until then, I found a
place that gave me 129 trillion carbon credits free, so I'm all set.

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On Dec 16, 11:52 am, "Madx" wrote:
"Harry K" wrote in message

...





On Dec 16, 7:52 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

Had to put on all the clothes I owned. Even had to get another blanket.

From the attic.

At least we didn't have to evacuate to a shelter like so many.
Fortunately,
we have plenty of food; neighbors are stocking up on canned goods and
bottled water.

I'm not sure whether they're going to close the schools or the roads.
Mail
delivery is likewise iffy.

Awww...Ifeel for you. I just chunked a couple pieces on the fire.
Must be up to around 74 in here now as I sit typing in my t-shirt and
shorts.
Was out restocking the porch from the woodshed yesterday with
windchill down around 10.

Harry K

You DO know that burning wood is very BAD for the environment! I guess you
don't care much about the health of the planet.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

A bit jealous? A bit undereducated on the question?

Well, yes it is and no it isn't. Depends. If one burns "dirty" it
is. If clean it isn't. I assume you are talking about two things.

Pollution: A modern airtight is almost polution free. I would be
putting almost the same amount of pollution out burning fuel oil.

Carbon: Burning wood in the long run is carbon neutral as the carbon
locked up in the wood _will_ be freed sometime due to either fire or
rot. Of course in the short term it adds co2.

But there is another side to the carbon question. If I don't burn
wood, my only other economic choice is fuel oil. Is it better to be
burnign a non-renewable, co2 adding resource or burn a renewable
(wood), co2 adding (short term) resource?

Looks like wood is not "bad" but at least a 50/50 trade off. In my
view it comes out ahead because of the renewable resource bit.

Harry K

In article , Harry K wrote:

Carbon: Burning wood in the long run is carbon neutral as the carbon
locked up in the wood _will_ be freed sometime due to either fire or
rot. Of course in the short term it adds co2.

Burning *anything* is carbon neutral in the long run (for sufficiently large
values of "long").

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It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Harry K wrote:

But there is another side to the carbon question. If I don't burn
wood, my only other economic choice is fuel oil. Is it better to be
burnign a non-renewable, co2 adding resource or burn a renewable
(wood), co2 adding (short term) resource?

Looks like wood is not "bad" but at least a 50/50 trade off. In my
view it comes out ahead because of the renewable resource bit.

Whale oil is a renewable resource.

On Dec 17, 4:48 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Harry K wrote:

But there is another side to the carbon question. If I don't burn
wood, my only other economic choice is fuel oil. Is it better to be
burnign a non-renewable, co2 adding resource or burn a renewable
(wood), co2 adding (short term) resource?

Looks like wood is not "bad" but at least a 50/50 trade off. In my
view it comes out ahead because of the renewable resource bit.

Whale oil is a renewable resource.

Okay, you provide it and I will use it to for my next tank fill.
There is practical and then there is pie in the sky.

When it comes to heating, it is a necessary evil and must be done
somehow. Currently there are no 'clean' methods that are economically
viable. Someone will spring up now with "solar" ignoring the
"economically viable" bit. When someone can show me where an entry
level house can be totally solar at a reasonable cost...

Harry K

Harry K

"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

Had to put on all the clothes I owned. Even had to get another blanket.

From the attic.

At least we didn't have to evacuate to a shelter like so many.
Fortunately, we have plenty of food; neighbors are stocking up on canned
goods and bottled water.

I'm not sure whether they're going to close the schools or the roads. Mail
delivery is likewise iffy.



WHAT??? Evacuate? Shelter?

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/...ery=houston+tx

Sounds like springtime to me.

JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"HeyBub" wrote in message
...
Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

Had to put on all the clothes I owned. Even had to get another
blanket. From the attic.

At least we didn't have to evacuate to a shelter like so many.
Fortunately, we have plenty of food; neighbors are stocking up on
canned goods and bottled water.

I'm not sure whether they're going to close the schools or the
roads. Mail delivery is likewise iffy.



WHAT??? Evacuate? Shelter?

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/...ery=houston+tx

Sounds like springtime to me.

I suppose it's what your used to. When a hurricane heads our way, vistors
look down and say "Feet, make tracks!" while we natives stock up on beer and
strawberry pop-tarts. Can't have a party without pop-tarts.

We're starting to take hurricanes a bit more seriously, though. Last one
that affected our area, Katrina, missed us by almost 200 miles. What it DID
do, however, was bother us with 250,000 evacuees from New Orleans, a great
number of which were criminals.

In the intervening two years, most of these criminals have been killed off
or are in Texas jails ("Whatch yo' mean, I can't be walkin' in my 'hood with
a Malt an' a toke?"), but why go to the trouble. In today's Houston paper:

"[Evacuees] seeking to escape the next hurricane or state emergency by
evacuation bus will first be submitted to criminal background checks, the
state's emergency management director says."
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/...e/5380868.html

Appease the gods of wind and water with human sacrifice, I always say.

On Dec 16, 9:52 am, "HeyBub" wrote:
Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

Had to put on all the clothes I owned. Even had to get another blanket.

From the attic.

At least we didn't have to evacuate to a shelter like so many. Fortunately,
we have plenty of food; neighbors are stocking up on canned goods and
bottled water.

I'm not sure whether they're going to close the schools or the roads. Mail
delivery is likewise iffy.

38F above zero?

JK

On Sun, 16 Dec 2007 09:52:50 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote
Re Damn, it's cold:

Got down to 38F last night in Houston.

It went down to 34F here in north Alabama. Of course, being in the
north we are used to the cold, but still.....

When is global warming going to kick in?

it would have to exist first.


"Caesar Romano" wrote in message
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When is global warming going to kick in?