I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve


Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

Tony Hwang wrote:
SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had
a concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened
the carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?


Yeah. Make sure that the only people who are armed are the nutcases who
want to commit suicide while taking a lot of innocents with them.
If we had restrictive gun laws, do you think this kid couldn't have
gotten a gun? If you do, you are living in lala land.
The answer is to allow more ccw's with properly trained owners and then
a nutcase would be too busy ducking for cover to shoot innocents.

wrote in message news:V557j.226237$Xa3.51512@attbi_s22...
Tony Hwang wrote:
SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?


Yeah. Make sure that the only people who are armed are the nutcases who
want to commit suicide while taking a lot of innocents with them.
If we had restrictive gun laws, do you think this kid couldn't have gotten
a gun? If you do, you are living in lala land.
The answer is to allow more ccw's with properly trained owners and then a
nutcase would be too busy ducking for cover to shoot innocents.

Or at least think about it before they head to the mall. Crime has fallen
in states where CCW laws were relaxed.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:12:06 -0800, SteveB wrote:

wrote in message news:V557j.226237$Xa3.51512@attbi_s22...
Tony Hwang wrote:
SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?


Yeah. Make sure that the only people who are armed are the nutcases who
want to commit suicide while taking a lot of innocents with them.
If we had restrictive gun laws, do you think this kid couldn't have gotten
a gun? If you do, you are living in lala land.
The answer is to allow more ccw's with properly trained owners and then a
nutcase would be too busy ducking for cover to shoot innocents.

Or at least think about it before they head to the mall. Crime has fallen
in states where CCW laws were relaxed.


correlation is not causation and this is ****ing offtopic. Take it to a
politics or firearms newsgroup.

AZ Nomad wrote:

correlation is not causation and this is ****ing offtopic. Take it
to a politics or firearms newsgroup.

The correlation has been demonstrated time and again, both ways: The rise in
crime where concealed carry is suspended, and the decline in crime where
concealed-carry is put into force or when re-instituted. If you don't like
the topic, tough ****.

--
Dave
www.davebbq.com

"AZ Nomad" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:12:06 -0800, SteveB
wrote:

wrote in message news:V557j.226237$Xa3.51512@attbi_s22...
Tony Hwang wrote:
SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had
a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?


Yeah. Make sure that the only people who are armed are the nutcases who
want to commit suicide while taking a lot of innocents with them.
If we had restrictive gun laws, do you think this kid couldn't have
gotten
a gun? If you do, you are living in lala land.
The answer is to allow more ccw's with properly trained owners and then
a
nutcase would be too busy ducking for cover to shoot innocents.

Or at least think about it before they head to the mall. Crime has fallen
in states where CCW laws were relaxed.


correlation is not causation and this is ****ing offtopic. Take it to a
politics or firearms newsgroup.


New here, huh?

SteveB wrote:
wrote in message news:V557j.226237$Xa3.51512@attbi_s22...

Tony Hwang wrote:

SteveB wrote:

I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve


Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?


Yeah. Make sure that the only people who are armed are the nutcases who
want to commit suicide while taking a lot of innocents with them.
If we had restrictive gun laws, do you think this kid couldn't have gotten
a gun? If you do, you are living in lala land.
The answer is to allow more ccw's with properly trained owners and then a
nutcase would be too busy ducking for cover to shoot innocents.


Or at least think about it before they head to the mall. Crime has fallen
in states where CCW laws were relaxed.


Hi,
Since when nutcase thinks normal?

"Tony Hwang" wrote

Hi,
Since when nutcase thinks normal?

Gee, I don't know, Tony. You're a nutcase that wants to get rid of all
guns, you tell us:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:26:27 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote:

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve
Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:26:27 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote:

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve


Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

How about getting rid of all drugs? Your thinking may
become more clear.

Gee, How was the gunman stopped in Colorado Springs ?
By an armed guard.

wrote:

Gee, How was the gunman stopped in Colorado Springs ?
By an armed guard.

By a FEMALE armed security guard, according to one report.

Obviously the security guard took steps before the police arrived. We can
never tell for sure, but it is probable that the goblin would have killed
more had it not been for an armed person on the scene.

wrote in :

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:26:27 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote:

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who
had a concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have
lessened the carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve


Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

Hasn't happened ANYWHERE on Earth.

(are you going to disarm the police? Orlando PD has had several cruisers
broken into and their guns stolen.USGov't has had LOTs of their guns get
stolen or "go missing".)


How about getting rid of all drugs? Your thinking may
become more clear.

Gee, How was the gunman stopped in Colorado Springs ?
By an armed guard.


the Columbine killers stopped(and suicided) once armed police arrived.
Pearl,MS and Applachian Law School,the killers stopped and surrendered once
confronted by an armed citizen.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:26:27 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote
Re Take yer gun to the mall:

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve


Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

How about getting rid of all ass hole liberals?

I take my handgun to the mall all the time.
Thats where the shooting range is.

Caesar Romano wrote in
:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:26:27 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote
Re Take yer gun to the mall:

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who
had a concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have
lessened the carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve


Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

How about getting rid of all ass hole liberals?

Just don't get rid of all duct tape.

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:36:22 -0600, Caesar Romano
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:26:27 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote
Re Take yer gun to the mall:

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve


Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

How about getting rid of all ass hole liberals?

Who would then Chair the newly developed _HUG-A-THUG_
committee?

In article 7647j.8400$jq2.857@pd7urf1no, Tony Hwang wrote:
SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve


Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

Just how do you plan to do that?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

Tony Hwang wrote:
SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who
had a concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have
lessened the carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve


Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

Like you've attempted to do in Canada?

Right.

As for AK47 vs a handgun - I own both. In a VERY confined area, such as a
department store, the handgun would be a superior weapon.

"Tony Hwang" wrote in message
news:7647j.8400$jq2.857@pd7urf1no...
SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve
Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

Well, with a handgun, at least one would have had a chance. BTW, in my
qualifying, I could hit a person's torso in 36 out of 36 shots. Yes, I do
think I would have a chance with a handgun. At least I'd HAVE a chance.

Get rid of guns? What would be next? Books?

Steve

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:10:57 -0800, "SteveB"
wrote:


Get rid of guns? What would be next? Books?

*

LONDON (Reuters) - The government said Wednesday it would ban the sale
of samurai swords because the weapons had been used in a number of
serious, high-profile attacks.

The Home Office said the swords would be added to the Offensive
Weapons Order from April next year, meaning they could not be
imported, sold or hired.

However collectors of genuine Japanese swords and those used by
martial arts enthusiasts would be exempt from the ban.

------------

"In the wrong hands, samurai swords are dangerous weapons," Home
Office Minister Vernon Coaker said.

In 2000, Robert Ashman murdered a Liberal Democrat councilor at the
offices of Cheltenham MP Nigel Jones, who was also seriously hurt in
the attack.

A year earlier, Eden Strang seriously wounded 11 people when he went
on the rampage with a samurai sword at a Roman Catholic Church near
his home in Thornton Heath, south London.

(Reporting by Michael Holden; Editing by Tim Castle)




*
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...19327520071214

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:26:27 GMT, Tony Hwang wrote:

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve


Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

You can have my gun, when you pry it from my cold dead hands!!

On Dec 9, 11:26�pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. �Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. �If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

That's what they thought they were doing at Virginia Tech. It was a
"Gun-Free Zone"

There was another school in Virginia that wasn't a "Gun-Free Zone".
No deaths, gun-weilding, law-abiding cirizens held criminal gunman for
police. Very few papers mentioned the fact that he was held by armed
citizens, only that citizens held him for police. With that kind of
coverage, its no wonder people don't understand the value of an armed
populace.

" wrote in news:123dbd53-80ea-4939-
:

On Dec 9, 11:26�pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. �Anyone wh
o had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. �If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

That's what they thought they were doing at Virginia Tech. It was a
"Gun-Free Zone"

There was another school in Virginia that wasn't a "Gun-Free Zone".
No deaths, gun-weilding, law-abiding cirizens held criminal gunman for
police. Very few papers mentioned the fact that he was held by armed
citizens, only that citizens held him for police. With that kind of
coverage, its no wonder people don't understand the value of an armed
populace.


IMO,that sort of omission is intentional.
I've seen an Associated Press article in several news sources,and all
but one edited the article to omit the pro-gun part.

(amazing that AP would have some pro-gun stuff in one of their reports!)

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

On Dec 10, 10:19Â*pm, " wrote:
On Dec 9, 11:26�pm, Tony Hwang wrote:

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. �Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. �If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

That's what they thought they were doing at Virginia Tech. Â*It was a
"Gun-Free Zone"

There was another school in Virginia that wasn't a "Gun-Free Zone".
No deaths, gun-weilding, law-abiding cirizens held criminal gunman for
police. Â*Very few papers mentioned the fact that he was held by armed
citizens, only that citizens held him for police. Â*With that kind of
coverage, its no wonder people don't understand the value of an armed
populace.


Small town, other than for the University of Idaho, small force. One
cop on duty out on patrol, dispatch (both county and city) were the
only ones on. Guy shoots up the station from outside - no injuries,
shoots the cop coming to the call, shoots a 'Rambo" who grabbed his 45
auto and went out to "help" wounds him critically (barely survived)
and he never even saw the shooter, shoots a custodian across the
street in a church, shoots himself. I recall there was another victim
but can't recall it.

So, yes, the shooters will target cops no matter how stupid it may
be. There have been many examples of deliberate assinations of
officers but out on the street, not in the station.

Harry K

wrote in message
...
On Dec 9, 11:26?pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. ?Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. ?If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

That's what they thought they were doing at Virginia Tech. It was a
"Gun-Free Zone"

There was another school in Virginia that wasn't a "Gun-Free Zone".
No deaths, gun-weilding, law-abiding cirizens held criminal gunman for
police. Very few papers mentioned the fact that he was held by armed
citizens, only that citizens held him for police. With that kind of
coverage, its no wonder people don't understand the value of an armed
populace.

And with the liberals controlling the media, it's no wonder we get the
newspeak news we get.

Steve

On Dec 11, 9:03 am, "SteveB" wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Dec 9, 11:26?pm, Tony Hwang wrote:

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. ?Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. ?If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

That's what they thought they were doing at Virginia Tech. It was a
"Gun-Free Zone"

There was another school in Virginia that wasn't a "Gun-Free Zone".
No deaths, gun-weilding, law-abiding cirizens held criminal gunman for
police. Very few papers mentioned the fact that he was held by armed
citizens, only that citizens held him for police. With that kind of
coverage, its no wonder people don't understand the value of an armed
populace.

And with the liberals controlling the media, it's no wonder we get the
newspeak news we get.

Steve

Then there is the incident from ?yesterday? where an ex-cop (female)
happened to be on site when it started, engaged and put the shooter
down.

I don't carry (should), but if I am ever in that position, I am going
to be praying that someone in the crowd _is_ carrying.

Harry K

Harry K wrote in
:

On Dec 11, 9:03 am, "SteveB" wrote:
wrote in message


... On Dec 9, 11:26?pm, Tony Hwang wrote:

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. ?Anyone who
had a concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have
lessened the carnage. ?If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

That's what they thought they were doing at Virginia Tech. It was a
"Gun-Free Zone"

There was another school in Virginia that wasn't a "Gun-Free Zone".
No deaths, gun-weilding, law-abiding cirizens held criminal gunman
for police. Very few papers mentioned the fact that he was held by
armed citizens, only that citizens held him for police. With that
kind of coverage, its no wonder people don't understand the value of
an armed populace.

And with the liberals controlling the media, it's no wonder we get
the newspeak news we get.

Steve

Then there is the incident from ?yesterday? where an ex-cop (female)
happened to be on site when it started, engaged and put the shooter
down.

I don't carry (should), but if I am ever in that position, I am going
to be praying that someone in the crowd _is_ carrying.

Harry K


IMO,more people might carry if we had nationwide Vermont-style carry laws.
No permit,carry open or concealed as you wish.
That's the way it used to be everywhere(pre early-1900s),and the way it
should be.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

"SteveB" wrote in
news

wrote in message
.
.. On Dec 9, 11:26?pm, Tony Hwang wrote:
SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. ?Anyone who
had a concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have
lessened the carnage. ?If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

Oh, Yeah. Hand gun against AK-47. Right.
How about getting rid of all guns?

That's what they thought they were doing at Virginia Tech. It was a
"Gun-Free Zone"

There was another school in Virginia that wasn't a "Gun-Free Zone".
No deaths, gun-weilding, law-abiding cirizens held criminal gunman for
police. Very few papers mentioned the fact that he was held by armed
citizens, only that citizens held him for police. With that kind of
coverage, its no wonder people don't understand the value of an armed
populace.

And with the liberals controlling the media, it's no wonder we get the
newspeak news we get.

Steve




There's NO PLACE ON EARTH that has successfully "gotten rid of all guns".
It's an unrealistic DREAM,Pure FANTASY.

Police have guns,have had them stolen,Governments have guns,also have them
stolen or "go missing".
Then there's gun smuggling;druggies often bring guns in along with illegal
drugs.Just ask the Yardies in UK.They use AK's,REAL full-auto AKs.
The Yakuza in Japan have a business of gun running.

People make and have MADE guns in home shops.A guy in Australia was making
handguns by the 100s,sold a lot of them illegally before the AUS police
caught him.They didn't recover all he sold,either.


But disarming the citizens DOES make it safer for criminals to prey on
them. Criminals are overwhelmingly for gun control and gun bans.

--
Jim Yanik
jyanik
at
kua.net

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had
a concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened
the carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.


Carrying your weapon in the Omaha Westroads Mall is illegal.

Nebraska law allows private entities to declare themselves 'gun-free-zones'
by posting appropriate 'no-gun' signs. Westroads Mall chose that option.

In article , "HeyBub" wrote:
SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had
a concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened
the carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.


Carrying your weapon in the Omaha Westroads Mall is illegal.

Nebraska law allows private entities to declare themselves 'gun-free-zones'
by posting appropriate 'no-gun' signs. Westroads Mall chose that option.

Yeah, *that* worked well, didn't it?

When will people ever learn that gun control disarms only the law-abiding, and
not the law-defying?

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com)

It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again.

In article , "HeyBub"
wrote:

Carrying your weapon in the Omaha Westroads Mall is illegal.

Not anymore. They removed the restriction a couple of days ago.
--

JR

"Jim Redelfs" wrote in message
...
In article , "HeyBub"

wrote:

Carrying your weapon in the Omaha Westroads Mall is illegal.

Not anymore. They removed the restriction a couple of days ago.
--

JR

In Las Vegas about a year ago, they posted signs, NO CONCEALED WEAPONS,
PERMIT OR NOT. So many people went to management and complained, and there
was an incident somewhere where a robbery and stabbing was thwarted by a
citizen with a gun. The signs came down.

Steve

On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:35:01 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote:

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had
a concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened
the carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.


Carrying your weapon in the Omaha Westroads Mall is illegal.

Nebraska law allows private entities to declare themselves 'gun-free-zones'
by posting appropriate 'no-gun' signs. Westroads Mall chose that option.


And how do they get the criminals to obey the signs?
--
15 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Never underestimate the power of stupid
people in large groups"

Mark Lloyd wrote:
On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 06:35:01 -0600, "HeyBub" wrote:

SteveB wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who
had a concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have
lessened the carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.


Carrying your weapon in the Omaha Westroads Mall is illegal.

Nebraska law allows private entities to declare themselves
'gun-free-zones' by posting appropriate 'no-gun' signs. Westroads
Mall chose that option.


And how do they get the criminals to obey the signs?

They don't, of course. They hope that by prohibiting law-abiding folk from
bringing their guns to the venue, that the opportunity for a law-abiding
person to BECOME a criminal is eliminated.

I suppose they say to themselves: "When confronted with the price of an item
or a surly saleslady, if *I* had a gun, I'd shoot somebody! Since *I* am
typical, it's best not to allow firearms."

In my view, the intellectual disagreement has been between those who are
more afraid of guns than criminals and those who hold a reverse philosophy.
In recent years, those who fear criminals more than firearms have been in
the ascendency. In 1986, Florida became the first state to implement "shall
issue" concealed handgun licenses. "Shall issue" means that if you meet the
statutory requirements (stand up, hear thunder, and see lightning), the
licensing authority MUST issue the license - no discretion permitted. Since
then, the number of states with "shall issue" laws has increased to 38.
Another ten have some sort of discretionary scheme (NY and Calif for
example). Only three (including D.C.) have no permitting system at all.
Twenty-five states have adopted a no-retreat Castle Doctrine.

On Dec 10, 12:06 am, "SteveB" wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

In Minnesota unless you try and escape you become a willing
participant.
Then you have to be Jesus Christ himself to survive the aftermath. I
carry.
I would have run. (I assume I would have run. I also assume I would
have
my wits.)

wrote in message
...
On Dec 10, 12:06 am, "SteveB" wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

In Minnesota unless you try and escape you become a willing
participant.
Then you have to be Jesus Christ himself to survive the aftermath. I
carry.
I would have run. (I assume I would have run. I also assume I would
have
my wits.)

I would say that if you are face to face with a person with a semi-automatic
assault rifle that you would have a plausible contention that you were in
fear of your life, or that others were being or might be killed or injured.
That's the line.

What, turn around so they can shoot you in the back?

Steve

On Dec 10, 1:24 pm, "SteveB" wrote:
wrote in message

...

On Dec 10, 12:06 am, "SteveB" wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

In Minnesota unless you try and escape you become a willing
participant.
Then you have to be Jesus Christ himself to survive the aftermath. I
carry.
I would have run. (I assume I would have run. I also assume I would
have
my wits.)

I would say that if you are face to face with a person with a semi-automatic
assault rifle that you would have a plausible contention that you were in
fear of your life, or that others were being or might be killed or injured.
That's the line.

What, turn around so they can shoot you in the back?

Steve

In the aftermath of the shootup of the PD station in Moscow, Id last
year, there was a cry to ban guns in the city limits...that is until
the Latah Co Sheriff made his views know "I want every citizen in this
city to have a CCW". I'd vote for him any day if I lived over there
(30 miles)

Harry K

I feel no pity for those who live in a state that allows CCW. If that
option is available and you choose not to carry dont complain when a
nutcase shoots some people. Armed citizens are the most effective
crime stopper available. Once robbers and wackos start getting killed
the crime rate will drop.

On Dec 10, 1:06 am, "SteveB" wrote:
I saw a clear full body picture of the Omaha shooter. Anyone who had a
concealed weapon and who could shoot decently could have lessened the
carnage. If you got a CCW, carry your weapon.

Steve

wrote:
I feel no pity for those who live in a state that allows CCW. If that
option is available and you choose not to carry dont complain when a
nutcase shoots some people. Armed citizens are the most effective
crime stopper available. Once robbers and wackos start getting killed
the crime rate will drop.

If, for no other reason, the criminals are dead.

It appears that this article sorta indicates that some of the
assumptions stated earlier may be up for reconsideration (g)

Gunman killed outside S. Ind. police HQ


http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dl.../LOCAL/7121003
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http://tinyurl.com/29csr