I've got a thing called a Slingbox that allows one to send one's cable TV
box or TiVo signal through one's computer router, so that one can access the
box or TiVo from any computer anywhere with internet capability.

For people whose routers are in a different part of the house from their
cable box/TiVo, they have a product called SlingLink, which uses the
household wiring to connect the Slingbox to the router.

SlingLink doesn't work for me, since apparently my router is on a different
electrical circuit than my Slingbox/TiVo/cable box circuit.

I asked some computer sources about alternatives and got this:

"Wild guess- See if the two circuits are on the same "leg". If they
aren't, swap one so they are and see if it works. If you don't know what
I'm talking about, call your electrician buddy."

Anyone want to be my "electrician buddy" on this one?

Jim Beaver

"Jim Beaver" wrote in message
et...
I've got a thing called a Slingbox that allows one to send one's cable TV
box or TiVo signal through one's computer router, so that one can access
the box or TiVo from any computer anywhere with internet capability.

For people whose routers are in a different part of the house from their
cable box/TiVo, they have a product called SlingLink, which uses the
household wiring to connect the Slingbox to the router.

SlingLink doesn't work for me, since apparently my router is on a
different electrical circuit than my Slingbox/TiVo/cable box circuit.

I asked some computer sources about alternatives and got this:

"Wild guess- See if the two circuits are on the same "leg". If they
aren't, swap one so they are and see if it works. If you don't know what
I'm talking about, call your electrician buddy."

Anyone want to be my "electrician buddy" on this one?

I sure hope not! Takes a couple minutes, but if you do it wrong it could
all be over in a couple minutes.

Your typical electrical service has two hot legs and one neutral leg that
feed the house. These devices that use the wiring to transmit data often
need to be attached to the same leg, or some type of bridge is required. As
a test you could turn on any 240 appliance which may act as a bridge. If it
works, find an electrician to install the transmitting and receiving
circuits on the same leg




"Jim Beaver" wrote in message
et...
I've got a thing called a Slingbox that allows one to send one's cable TV
box or TiVo signal through one's computer router, so that one can access
the box or TiVo from any computer anywhere with internet capability.

For people whose routers are in a different part of the house from their
cable box/TiVo, they have a product called SlingLink, which uses the
household wiring to connect the Slingbox to the router.

SlingLink doesn't work for me, since apparently my router is on a
different electrical circuit than my Slingbox/TiVo/cable box circuit.

I asked some computer sources about alternatives and got this:

"Wild guess- See if the two circuits are on the same "leg". If they
aren't, swap one so they are and see if it works. If you don't know what
I'm talking about, call your electrician buddy."

Anyone want to be my "electrician buddy" on this one?

Jim Beaver

My understanding is that you have 220 volts coming into your house this is
split into 2 120 volt legs. The two devices have to be on the same leg.

Don't they make a wireless solution?




"Jim Beaver" wrote in message
et...
I've got a thing called a Slingbox that allows one to send one's cable TV
box or TiVo signal through one's computer router, so that one can access
the box or TiVo from any computer anywhere with internet capability.

For people whose routers are in a different part of the house from their
cable box/TiVo, they have a product called SlingLink, which uses the
household wiring to connect the Slingbox to the router.

SlingLink doesn't work for me, since apparently my router is on a
different electrical circuit than my Slingbox/TiVo/cable box circuit.

I asked some computer sources about alternatives and got this:

"Wild guess- See if the two circuits are on the same "leg". If they
aren't, swap one so they are and see if it works. If you don't know what
I'm talking about, call your electrician buddy."

Anyone want to be my "electrician buddy" on this one?

Jim Beaver

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:27:17 GMT, Jim Beaver wrote:


I've got a thing called a Slingbox that allows one to send one's cable TV
box or TiVo signal through one's computer router, so that one can access the
box or TiVo from any computer anywhere with internet capability.

AC wiring is good for about 4800-9600 baud.

The phone lines are good for about 1mbps; you might be able to use them
if they're cat-3.

Best bet is to string ethernet, or go wireless. Use repeaters if necessary.

According to AZ Nomad :
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:27:17 GMT, Jim Beaver wrote:


I've got a thing called a Slingbox that allows one to send one's cable TV
box or TiVo signal through one's computer router, so that one can access the
box or TiVo from any computer anywhere with internet capability.

AC wiring is good for about 4800-9600 baud.

That's so old-school.

Powerline Ethernet adapters are capable of 200Mbps or more.

Eg: Netgear http://www.netgear.com/Products/Powe...rs/HDX101.aspx

At that speed, it won't go through transformers, or even necessarily
jump legs in an electrical panel - as the OP seems to be experiencing.
--
Chris Lewis,

Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:52:46 -0000, Chris Lewis wrote:


According to AZ Nomad :
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:27:17 GMT, Jim Beaver wrote:


I've got a thing called a Slingbox that allows one to send one's cable TV
box or TiVo signal through one's computer router, so that one can access the
box or TiVo from any computer anywhere with internet capability.

AC wiring is good for about 4800-9600 baud.

That's so old-school.

Powerline Ethernet adapters are capable of 200Mbps or more.

Eg: Netgear http://www.netgear.com/Products/Powe...rs/HDX101.aspx

At that speed, it won't go through transformers, or even necessarily
jump legs in an electrical panel - as the OP seems to be experiencing.

In other words, it has all the disadvantages of wireless and wired
without the advantages of either.

"Jim Beaver" wrote in message
et...
I've got a thing called a Slingbox that allows one to send one's cable TV
box or TiVo signal through one's computer router, so that one can access
the box or TiVo from any computer anywhere with internet capability.

For people whose routers are in a different part of the house from their
cable box/TiVo, they have a product called SlingLink, which uses the
household wiring to connect the Slingbox to the router.

SlingLink doesn't work for me, since apparently my router is on a
different electrical circuit than my Slingbox/TiVo/cable box circuit.

I asked some computer sources about alternatives and got this:

"Wild guess- See if the two circuits are on the same "leg". If they
aren't, swap one so they are and see if it works. If you don't know what
I'm talking about, call your electrician buddy."

Anyone want to be my "electrician buddy" on this one?

Jim Beaver


You need a phase coupler, there are several that plug into your Dryer
outlet. Be sure to buy the right version ( 3 vs. 4 pin).

I stole this blurb from one companies web site:

Corinex PowerPhase Coupler - Model D3
3 Pin Dryer Coupler - When the outlets in just one room or section of
your house have a noticeably weak Powerline network connection, it may mean
that those rooms are on a different circuit. The Corinex PowerPhase Coupler
joins together the Powerline network frequencies from separate circuits.
Simply plug in the coupler to extend your Powerline signal to the adjoining
circuits.
/ US,CAN / CXZ-CXP-PH2-D3-1.1


They can also be installed in your fuse panel, but if you need an electrical
buddy I don't recommend it.

According to AZ Nomad :
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:52:46 -0000, Chris Lewis
wrote:
Powerline Ethernet adapters are capable of 200Mbps or more.

Eg: Netgear
http://www.netgear.com/Products/Powe...rs/HDX101.aspx

At that speed, it won't go through transformers, or even necessarily
jump legs in an electrical panel - as the OP seems to be experiencing.

In other words, it has all the disadvantages of wireless and wired
without the advantages of either.

Not really.

Not going through transformers is a feature, not a bug - you know your
neighbors can't receive it, without having to encrypt it. Not jumping
legs is probably not universal, and easily rectified. Likely better
reliability/consistency throughout a whole house than wireless if
the hub can't be optimally placed. Wireless phones won't interfere
with it. Doesn't need holes drilled/wire laid like wired. Connects
to your ethernet connector, no awkward wireless cards - (for us Linux
weenies, not having to worry about whether your laptop's wireless is
supported in the OS is a nice feature).

The main disadvantage seems to be that they're relatively new,
not terribly common (yet) and still fairly high price.

If they were more available, I'd probably switch to it from
wireless.
--
Chris Lewis,

Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

On Nov 13, 2:06 am, (Chris Lewis) wrote:
According to AZ Nomad :

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:52:46 -0000, Chris Lewis
wrote:
Powerline Ethernet adapters are capable of 200Mbps or more.
Eg: Netgear
http://www.netgear.com/Products/Powe...erlineEthernet...

At that speed, it won't go through transformers, or even necessarily
jump legs in an electrical panel - as the OP seems to be experiencing.
In other words, it has all the disadvantages of wireless and wired
without the advantages of either.

Not really.

Not going through transformers is a feature, not a bug - you know your
neighbors can't receive it, without having to encrypt it.

In most cases, there is no transformer seperating your house from a
neighbors. A typical transformer installation serves more than one
house. Now the signal still may not get far enough for your neighbor
to be able to recover data, but this isn't any kind of security
guarantee. It's like having a wireless with no encription and
relying on distance outside the house for security.





Not jumping
legs is probably not universal, and easily rectified. Likely better
reliability/consistency throughout a whole house than wireless if
the hub can't be optimally placed. Wireless phones won't interfere
with it. Doesn't need holes drilled/wire laid like wired. Connects
to your ethernet connector, no awkward wireless cards - (for us Linux
weenies, not having to worry about whether your laptop's wireless is
supported in the OS is a nice feature).

The main disadvantage seems to be that they're relatively new,
not terribly common (yet) and still fairly high price.

If they were more available, I'd probably switch to it from
wireless.

More and more people are using notebooks and similar today and for
years they've been coming with wireless already built-in. With
wireless, you can use those devices not only in your house, but when
staying at hotels, traveling, Starbucks, etc. So, I don't see much
market today for these powerline devices, except for peculiar apps,
like the one the OP has.




--
Chris Lewis,

Age and Treachery will Triumph over Youth and Skill
It's not just anyone who gets a Starship Cruiser class named after them.

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 01:57:01 GMT, AZ Nomad
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:27:17 GMT, Jim Beaver wrote:


I've got a thing called a Slingbox that allows one to send one's cable TV
box or TiVo signal through one's computer router, so that one can access the
box or TiVo from any computer anywhere with internet capability.

AC wiring is good for about 4800-9600 baud.

The phone lines are good for about 1mbps; you might be able to use them
if they're cat-3.

Best bet is to string ethernet, or go wireless.

And of the two, ethernet is much preferable. It's faster and much
simpler (and so more reliable).

Use repeaters if necessary.
--
42 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Never underestimate the power of stupid
people in large groups"

wrote:
On Nov 13, 2:06 am, (Chris Lewis) wrote:
....

Not jumping
legs is probably not universal, and easily rectified. Likely better
reliability/consistency throughout a whole house than wireless if
the hub can't be optimally placed. Wireless phones won't interfere
with it. Doesn't need holes drilled/wire laid like wired. Connects
to your ethernet connector, no awkward wireless cards - (for us Linux
weenies, not having to worry about whether your laptop's wireless is
supported in the OS is a nice feature).

The main disadvantage seems to be that they're relatively new,
not terribly common (yet) and still fairly high price.

If they were more available, I'd probably switch to it from
wireless.

More and more people are using notebooks and similar today and for
years they've been coming with wireless already built-in. With
wireless, you can use those devices not only in your house, but when
staying at hotels, traveling, Starbucks, etc. So, I don't see much
market today for these powerline devices, except for peculiar apps,
like the one the OP has.


Been using one here for several years for the desktops -- in older
homes, particularly as this one, multilevel, it's the cat's meow, so to
speak...

--

AZ Nomad wrote:
On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:52:46 -0000, Chris Lewis wrote:



According to AZ Nomad :

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:27:17 GMT, Jim Beaver wrote:



I've got a thing called a Slingbox that allows one to send one's cable TV
box or TiVo signal through one's computer router, so that one can access the
box or TiVo from any computer anywhere with internet capability.

AC wiring is good for about 4800-9600 baud.


That's so old-school.


Powerline Ethernet adapters are capable of 200Mbps or more.


Eg: Netgear http://www.netgear.com/Products/Powe...rs/HDX101.aspx


At that speed, it won't go through transformers, or even necessarily
jump legs in an electrical panel - as the OP seems to be experiencing.


In other words, it has all the disadvantages of wireless and wired
without the advantages of either.

It shares one advantage with wireless -- the possibility of avoiding the
need for new wiring.

Not going through transformers could be considered a security "feature."

:-)

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Chris Lewis wrote:

According to AZ Nomad :

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 02:52:46 -0000, Chris Lewis
wrote:

Powerline Ethernet adapters are capable of 200Mbps or more.



Eg: Netgear

http://www.netgear.com/Products/Powe...rs/HDX101.aspx


At that speed, it won't go through transformers, or even necessarily
jump legs in an electrical panel - as the OP seems to be experiencing.



In other words, it has all the disadvantages of wireless and wired
without the advantages of either.


Not really.

Not going through transformers is a feature, not a bug - you know your
neighbors can't receive it, without having to encrypt it.

How so? Whole blocks of houses can share a transformer.

Not jumping
legs is probably not universal, and easily rectified. Likely better
reliability/consistency throughout a whole house than wireless if
the hub can't be optimally placed. Wireless phones won't interfere
with it. Doesn't need holes drilled/wire laid like wired. Connects
to your ethernet connector, no awkward wireless cards - (for us Linux
weenies, not having to worry about whether your laptop's wireless is
supported in the OS is a nice feature).

The main disadvantage seems to be that they're relatively new,
not terribly common (yet) and still fairly high price.

If they were more available, I'd probably switch to it from
wireless.


--
The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to
minimize spam. Our true address is of the form .

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 13:29:35 -0500, Meat Plow
wrote:

On Tue, 13 Nov 2007 00:27:17 +0000, Jim Beaver wrote:

I've got a thing called a Slingbox that allows one to send one's cable TV
box or TiVo signal through one's computer router, so that one can access the
box or TiVo from any computer anywhere with internet capability.

For people whose routers are in a different part of the house from their
cable box/TiVo, they have a product called SlingLink, which uses the
household wiring to connect the Slingbox to the router.

SlingLink doesn't work for me, since apparently my router is on a different
electrical circuit than my Slingbox/TiVo/cable box circuit.

I asked some computer sources about alternatives and got this:

"Wild guess- See if the two circuits are on the same "leg". If they
aren't, swap one so they are and see if it works. If you don't know what
I'm talking about, call your electrician buddy."

Anyone want to be my "electrician buddy" on this one?

Jim Beaver

Wireless ethernet is your friend.

IF a (much simpler) ethernet cable won't work.
--
41 days until the winter solstice celebration

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.laughingsquid.com

"Never underestimate the power of stupid
people in large groups"