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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.

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LOL You could say that about nearly every Govt, including mine :-))

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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.




The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

"T" wrote

http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html


Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.




The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
The people want a situation more like Turkey.

--Tedward

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"T" wrote





http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.

The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
The people want a situation more like Turkey.

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And so they went out and elected who they did as their president. I
think your statements here are more wishful thinking and hoping than
anything else -- much like the German sympathizers before WWII.

"trijcomm" wrote

http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.

The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
The people want a situation more like Turkey.

--Tedward- Hide quoted text -

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And so they went out and elected who they did as their president. I
think your statements here are more wishful thinking and hoping than
anything else -- much like the German sympathizers before WWII.

Do you know a anything about Iran? You probably think they are
Arabs too.

Public support for reform is strong -- see the previous president
who served two terms and was very popular, especially among the
women and youth. You might as well claim America is a bible
thumping nation just because we elected Reagan and the Bush clan.

Or you could read National Geographic's last article on the place.

There is a significant Islamic law faction, but it isn't so much
anti-West as anti-Israel and anti-America. Unfortunately they
got enough power to keep it -- they started keeping reformists
from running for office in 1994.

--Tedward

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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government
then.

The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and
it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about
it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
The people want a situation more like Turkey.

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And so they went out and elected who they did as their president. I
think your statements here are more wishful thinking and hoping than
anything else -- much like the German sympathizers before WWII.

Their president is a powerless figurehead. That's it. He only exists to
give the appearance of a parliamentary system of government. The council of
Mullahs controls the country. And they are very unpopular. Bear in mind
the majority of the population was born after 1980. They have had a taste
of Western life and they would like a whole lot more. They don't remember
life under the Shah, a bloody and ruthless dictator that we installed, so
they only see the happy side, if you will of the West.

Drop nukes on them, and all 71 million of them will change that tune in an
instant and you will see a backlash the likes of which cannot even be
imagined. One thing about Iran, they are all Persians and all Shia Muslims
(well those who are not Christians anyway). There is no ethnic or religious
strife to divide them.

The road to war is for the insane and that unfortunately is who we have in
the drivers seat.

Paul

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And so they went out and elected who they did as their president.

Now there's an indictment.

Bob

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"T" wrote

http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html


Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.




The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

Iranians hate the Shah but miss the lifestyle they had under him.
The people want a situation more like Turkey.

--Tedward


The Shah was a CIA backed puppet but a puppet who brutally put down
dissent in his own country.

That makes it easy to understand why people likes the lifestyle during
that time period but hated the Shah.

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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government
then.




The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

All rational assessments claim that Iran, if they wanted to, could not
produce a weapon for 5-10 years. And from what the sources who were right
on Iraq are saying, they do not want to and there is no evidence that they
are. What they are doing just happens to be legal as they are a signatory
to the UN Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty. A treaty which Israel and India
are not signatories yet we give them nuclear technology and now even fuel.
There is every indication that a peaceful change of government could occur.
Don't forget that on 9-11 millions of Iranians marched in the streets of
Tehran with signs saying "we are all Americans today." Great strides had
been taken by the moderate, pro-western, government they had at the time.
That was all thrown into the garbage with Bush's "axis of evil" speech.
Without that speech, quite likely the moderate voices would prevail today.
As it was all we succeeded in doing was proving that we could not be trusted
and that is all the radicals needed to regain control.

War is coming. Of that there is no doubt. Even if the spineless democrats
wanted to, they'd not be able to stop it. And what will come of it will be
of global reach and will cause vast pain and misery for a long, long time.

Paul

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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government
then.

The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

All rational assessments claim that Iran, if they wanted to, could not
produce a weapon for 5-10 years. And from what the sources who were right
on Iraq are saying, they do not want to and there is no evidence that they
are. What they are doing just happens to be legal as they are a signatory
to the UN Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty. A treaty which Israel and India
are not signatories yet we give them nuclear technology and now even fuel.
There is every indication that a peaceful change of government could occur.
Don't forget that on 9-11 millions of Iranians marched in the streets of
Tehran with signs saying "we are all Americans today." Great strides had
been taken by the moderate, pro-western, government they had at the time.
That was all thrown into the garbage with Bush's "axis of evil" speech.
Without that speech, quite likely the moderate voices would prevail today.
As it was all we succeeded in doing was proving that we could not be trusted
and that is all the radicals needed to regain control.

War is coming. Of that there is no doubt. Even if the spineless democrats
wanted to, they'd not be able to stop it. And what will come of it will be
of global reach and will cause vast pain and misery for a long, long time.

Paul



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So you are blaming the hatred of Jews by the Iranians on Bush's
speech? Come on! A.) "All rational assessments" = all of those you
agree with since the irrational ones, of course, are the ones with
much shorter time periods that you would rather not believe. B.)
Unfortunately, the Iranians themselves are contradicting your
statements regarding what they have and what their attentions are. I
know you would rather hide your head in the sand and hope it will all
go away, but the Iranian leadership has said many, many times that
they want to get rid of Israel. Their philosophy calls for it and even
dictates their salvation in an apocalypse scenario. C.) Umm, are you
saying it's legal for them to make a nuclear bomb? All "rational"
sources have said they are trying to get one. Why do you think the N.
Koreans are running around there? For the pleasant scenery? D.) Just
remember who elected their president in the first place.

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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government
then.

The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and
it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about
it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

All rational assessments claim that Iran, if they wanted to, could not
produce a weapon for 5-10 years. And from what the sources who were
right
on Iraq are saying, they do not want to and there is no evidence that
they
are. What they are doing just happens to be legal as they are a
signatory
to the UN Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty. A treaty which Israel and
India
are not signatories yet we give them nuclear technology and now even
fuel.
There is every indication that a peaceful change of government could
occur.
Don't forget that on 9-11 millions of Iranians marched in the streets of
Tehran with signs saying "we are all Americans today." Great strides
had
been taken by the moderate, pro-western, government they had at the
time.
That was all thrown into the garbage with Bush's "axis of evil" speech.
Without that speech, quite likely the moderate voices would prevail
today.
As it was all we succeeded in doing was proving that we could not be
trusted
and that is all the radicals needed to regain control.

War is coming. Of that there is no doubt. Even if the spineless
democrats
wanted to, they'd not be able to stop it. And what will come of it will
be
of global reach and will cause vast pain and misery for a long, long
time.

Paul



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So you are blaming the hatred of Jews by the Iranians on Bush's
speech? Come on! A.)

They don't hate Jews. They hate Israel for the genocide it has infliced on
the Palestinians and the US for its blanket support of Israel despite Israel
violating charter after charter regarding the treatment of the Palestinians.
That is why *all* the Arab states are anti-Israel.

"All rational assessments" = all of those you
agree with since the irrational ones, of course, are the ones with
much shorter time periods that you would rather not believe. B.)

Even our own CIA says years and not months. At the current rate of
enrichment they are years from achieving the quantity they need. Even our
own IA says there is more than enough time to work with them. And there is
every indication they want us to. The reason we have not is this: the US
has stated that before any substantive talks begin, they much give
everything up. So they have to give up their bargaining chip to begin
bargaining. You explain just how that works because I can't. Kind of like
going to Vegas and just giving the casinos all your money because you can't
win anyway.

Unfortunately, the Iranians themselves are contradicting your
statements regarding what they have and what their attentions are. I
know you would rather hide your head in the sand and hope it will all
go away, but the Iranian leadership has said many, many times that
they want to get rid of Israel.

Actually, no they have not said it in those terms. They have predicted
Israel will fall due to its own crimes against humanity They have also said
that Israel has brought it on themselves. That is not the same as them
saying they were going to wipe out Israel. They could not, they would have
to also fight the US, Britain, Australia and most of Europe who have signed
pacts to protect the country. Does Iran know this - yes they do.

Their philosophy calls for it and even
dictates their salvation in an apocalypse scenario. C.)

Israel has an estimated 60 nuclear bombs each 10 times more powerful than
the Hiroshima bomb. Who is the nuclear threat? Who can terrorize who? Do
you think Iranians are suicidal? Do you think they don't know all this?
They do. If they launch one feeble warhead, they will be literally
annihilated and they are not stupid, they know it.

Umm, are you
saying it's legal for them to make a nuclear bomb?

Every US and foreign agency in the busienss of knowing these things
including the IAEA has inspected their facilities and continues to do so and
has stated that there is no sign of any work being conducted to produce
weapons grade materials. Iran has allowed full and open inspections. These
are the same agencies that said Iraq had no nuclear program and no WMDs and
were correct. Who do you trust?

All "rational"
sources have said they are trying to get one.

Nope, exactly none. Well Bush, yes. But he's about it.

Why do you think the N.
Koreans are running around there? For the pleasant scenery? D.)

There is emerging info that N. Korea had no role in the allegations about
sales to Syria. It is looking like *all* that NK had was used up in their
botched test earlier. Which is why they are now giving it up. Why bomb
Iran and not NK? NK actually had material and technology yet we negotiated
a settlement. No oil. NK did not have oil. Just a coincidence, I am sure
that Iran - oh does.

Just
remember who elected their president in the first place.

Ahmadinajad is not a real president. He has exactly no power at all. He is
a figurehead. He gives speeches. He talks to the citizenry. He could not
start a war if he wanted to.

You've fallen for the rhetoric and the lies. Just like I am sure you did
with Iraq. Once again you are trusting the people that lied us into the
first mess and like deja vu all over again they are repeating it almost
verbatim. And it seems to be working if you are typical.

Paul

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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government
then.




The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

All rational assessments claim that Iran, if they wanted to, could not
produce a weapon for 5-10 years. And from what the sources who were right
on Iraq are saying, they do not want to and there is no evidence that they
are. What they are doing just happens to be legal as they are a signatory
to the UN Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty. A treaty which Israel and
India
are not signatories yet we give them nuclear technology and now even fuel.
There is every indication that a peaceful change of government could
occur.
Don't forget that on 9-11 millions of Iranians marched in the streets of
Tehran with signs saying "we are all Americans today." Great strides had
been taken by the moderate, pro-western, government they had at the time.
That was all thrown into the garbage with Bush's "axis of evil" speech.

Ahh, you're a nut. Got it...

LG
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Freedom, by its nature, cannot be imposed -- it must be chosen. From Beirut
to Baghdad, people are making the choice for freedom. - George W. Bush

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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government
then.




The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

All rational assessments claim that Iran, if they wanted to, could not
produce a weapon for 5-10 years. And from what the sources who were
right
on Iraq are saying, they do not want to and there is no evidence that
they
are. What they are doing just happens to be legal as they are a
signatory
to the UN Nuclear Non-Proliferation treaty. A treaty which Israel and
India
are not signatories yet we give them nuclear technology and now even
fuel.
There is every indication that a peaceful change of government could
occur.
Don't forget that on 9-11 millions of Iranians marched in the streets of
Tehran with signs saying "we are all Americans today." Great strides
had
been taken by the moderate, pro-western, government they had at the
time.
That was all thrown into the garbage with Bush's "axis of evil" speech.

Ahh, you're a nut. Got it...



So you are saying that none of that happened? Is that what you are
claiming?

Paul

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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government then.

The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

Your statement about they ayatollahs and the youth are simply wishful
thinking. True, the youth may want to wear their hair differently, but
they hate the Jews just as much as anyone in leadership or else they
wouldn't have elected those leaders in the first place.

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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government
then.




The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

I guess Lebanon is similar in many ways, most people lead a life not that
far removed from many in the "Western World" but sadly the separation of
Church and State does not occur.

Pete D wrote:

I guess Lebanon is similar in many ways, most people lead a life not
that far removed from many in the "Western World" but sadly the
separation of Church and State does not occur.

It does in Lebanon - or used to. The Prime Minister was, by law, a Christian
and the President a Muslim (or vice-versa, I forget). Lebanon was once the
Rivera of the Middle East: banking center, vacation spot, high standard of
living.

Then the PLO was evicted from Jordan and moved to Lebanon. The country's
been a basket case ever since.

on 9/18/2007 5:28 PM HeyBub said the following:
Pete D wrote:

I guess Lebanon is similar in many ways, most people lead a life not
that far removed from many in the "Western World" but sadly the
separation of Church and State does not occur.


It does in Lebanon - or used to. The Prime Minister was, by law, a Christian
and the President a Muslim (or vice-versa, I forget). Lebanon was once the
Rivera of the Middle East: banking center, vacation spot, high standard of
living.

Then the PLO was evicted from Jordan and moved to Lebanon. The country's
been a basket case ever since.

I was in Beirut a few times when I was in the US Navy in the late 50s.
It was a beautiful modern looking city, and I walked all over it,
sometimes alone, and always in uniform. Never had any problem, and most
times I was ignored. I and two others took a taxi up to Baalbek for a
visit to the ruins.
The best time was in September, when we would go ashore, and look at all
the latest new American cars riding around.
I spent 26 months over in the Med.
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Bill
In Hamptonburgh, NY
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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government
then.

The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

I guess Lebanon is similar in many ways, most people lead a life not that
far removed from many in the "Western World" but sadly the separation of
Church and State does not occur.

I normally avoid looking at such threads, but made the mistake of
doing so for this one. You, at least, normally post reasonable stuff;
but when we're talking about blowing people into pieces, I think more
thought is needed than is put by most people here; and some personal
experience of what it actually involves (beyond parliamentary
discussions, I mean) should probably be mandatory-not much hope of
that, though. Hence wars...

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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government
then.

The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

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So you interpret the "Western World" lifestyle as -- hou? Music?
Hairstyle? It doesn't matter how you wear your hair, what movies you
watch or what kind of music you listen to when it comes to
institutionalized hate.

"trijcomm" wrote in message
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On Sep 18, 3:28 pm, "Pete D" wrote:
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"Jim34" wrote in message
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Bout time the Iranian people spoke to the idiots in their government
then.

The problem in Iran isn't so much the government as it is the clerical
class.

Ahmadenijad has very little power in Iran, but the Ayatollah's trump
even him.

A while back there was a British journalist who went into Tehran and
it
was a bit disconcerting to me. It was one of those never think about
it
issues but it's a modern city.

More to the point, the sentiment among the people is changing. The
Ayatollah's don't hold much power over the youth in the country. So we
could see change sooner than later.

I guess Lebanon is similar in many ways, most people lead a life not
that
far removed from many in the "Western World" but sadly the separation of
Church and State does not occur.- Hide quoted text -

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So you interpret the "Western World" lifestyle as -- hou? Music?
Hairstyle? It doesn't matter how you wear your hair, what movies you
watch or what kind of music you listen to when it comes to
institutionalized hate.


What else does the US give to the world other than pop culture,
entertainment, hair styles and fast food? What?

Paul

Jim34 wrote:
http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

Do not worry. When we bomb their nuclear facilities I'm sure our pilots
will try to miss these peaceful areas

Frank

On Sep 18, 3:10 am, Jim34 wrote:
http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

Hmm ... not one picture from that symposium where Iran said the
Holocaust never occurred. This little piece of propaganda was pretty
weak. You could have found similar pictures of Germany in the 30s and
40s.

Jim34 wrote:

http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

You can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig.
Iran's people are repressed by their insane govt.
Nice looking pics, but sooner or later something has
to be done about Iran and its nuclear weapons program.
What is really fascinating is the (past) protests over
US weapons but not a frigging peep over N Korea, Iran or
Syria. I guess its ok for them to have them eh? After all
they have been very responsible world citizens... NOT.

In rec.sport.football.college Eric sanoi, hitaasti kuin hämähäkki:
Jim34 wrote:

http://www.lucasgray.com/video/peacetrain.html

You can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig.
Iran's people are repressed by their insane govt.
Nice looking pics, but sooner or later something has
to be done about Iran and its nuclear weapons program.
What is really fascinating is the (past) protests over
US weapons but not a frigging peep over N Korea, Iran or
Syria. I guess its ok for them to have them eh? After all
they have been very responsible world citizens... NOT.

You should take Tony Snow's job when he leaves. You would
do a good job putting lipstick on Cheney's pigs.

I haven't seen you protesting all the WMD's that have been
found buried across the US since 2001. Maybe there's some
reason people protest some directions and not others.

rich
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