We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few people
about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried two
different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond and then
paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24 hours, the
primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried #2 - Sand the
surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we got the same
results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger nail.

Are we being too hopeful or anxious in our attempts to make sure the
paint stays affixed to the doors? We are planning on putting on a
enamel black finish.

We are using a Craftsman Detail and Touch-up Spray Gun to do the
spraying.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...Name=Automotiv...

Can anyone help with this endeavor?

Thanks
Ken

avallk wrote:
We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a
desk. The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the
wood doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid
maple cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few
people about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried
two different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond
and then paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24
hours, the primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried
#2 - Sand the surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we
got the same results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger
nail.

I'd consider that the norm on a hard surface. Try painting withoout
primer...the surface is already well sealed and paint should stick as
well as/better than primer.

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"avallk" wrote in message
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We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
cabinets with a clear finish on them.

Are these REAL wood, or fake plastic laminate?

If they are wood, sand and STAIN them to match what you already have!

On Sep 6, 11:02 am, "Noozer" wrote:
"avallk" wrote in message

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We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
cabinets with a clear finish on them.

Are these REAL wood, or fake plastic laminate?

If they are wood, sand and STAIN them to match what you already have!

Yes, they are real wood. We have already tried to stain to match other
wood and ended up painting. We even had a furniture restorer come in
to try to match the stain with no luck.

On Sep 6, 10:58 am, "dadiOH" wrote:
avallk wrote:
We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a
desk. The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the
wood doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid
maple cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few
people about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried
two different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond
and then paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24
hours, the primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried
#2 - Sand the surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we
got the same results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger
nail.

I'd consider that the norm on a hard surface. Try painting withoout
primer...the surface is already well sealed and paint should stick as
well as/better than primer.

--

dadiOH
____________________________

dadiOH's dandies v3.06...
...a help file of info about MP3s, recording from
LP/cassette and tips & tricks on this and that.
Get it athttp://mysite.verizon.net/xico

Will give that a try... thanks.

On Sep 6, 9:13 am, avallk wrote:
We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few people
about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried two
different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond and then
paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24 hours, the
primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried #2 - Sand the
surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we got the same
results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger nail.

Are we being too hopeful or anxious in our attempts to make sure the
paint stays affixed to the doors? We are planning on putting on a
enamel black finish.

We are using a Craftsman Detail and Touch-up Spray Gun to do the
spraying.http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...Name=Automotiv...

Can anyone help with this endeavor?

Thanks
Ken

Did you try an oil based primer yet?

avallk wrote:
We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few people
about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried two
different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond and then
paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24 hours, the
primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried #2 - Sand the
surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we got the same
results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger nail.

Are we being too hopeful or anxious in our attempts to make sure the
paint stays affixed to the doors? We are planning on putting on a
enamel black finish.

We are using a Craftsman Detail and Touch-up Spray Gun to do the
spraying.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...Name=Automotiv...

Can anyone help with this endeavor?

Thanks
Ken


Are they real wood or printed finish? If they are wood with clear
finish, you don't need a primer .. just sand and paint. If they are
printed finish, you may need a primer labelled for plastic and/or
formica. If mixed properly and used for the right finish, the primer
should not scrape off. I would check back with the paint store if you
applied it according to instructions.

On Sep 6, 1:24 pm, Norminn wrote:
avallk wrote:
We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few people
about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried two
different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond and then
paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24 hours, the
primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried #2 - Sand the
surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we got the same
results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger nail.

Are we being too hopeful or anxious in our attempts to make sure the
paint stays affixed to the doors? We are planning on putting on a
enamel black finish.

We are using a Craftsman Detail and Touch-up Spray Gun to do the
spraying.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...Name=Automotiv...

Can anyone help with this endeavor?

Thanks
Ken

Are they real wood or printed finish? If they are wood with clear
finish, you don't need a primer .. just sand and paint. If they are
printed finish, you may need a primer labelled for plastic and/or
formica. If mixed properly and used for the right finish, the primer
should not scrape off. I would check back with the paint store if you
applied it according to instructions.

Yes, they are real wood, at least the parts that we have been working
with. I think the others are veneer. We are stopping at the paint
store this afternoon with the door with the primer on it. We will see
what they have to say. I'll let you all know.

Thanks for the input.
Ken

On Sep 6, 1:34 pm, avallk wrote:
On Sep 6, 1:24 pm, Norminn wrote:



avallk wrote:
We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few people
about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried two
different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond and then
paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24 hours, the
primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried #2 - Sand the
surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we got the same
results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger nail.

Are we being too hopeful or anxious in our attempts to make sure the
paint stays affixed to the doors? We are planning on putting on a
enamel black finish.

We are using a Craftsman Detail and Touch-up Spray Gun to do the
spraying.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...Name=Automotiv...

Can anyone help with this endeavor?

Thanks
Ken

Are they real wood or printed finish? If they are wood with clear
finish, you don't need a primer .. just sand and paint. If they are
printed finish, you may need a primer labelled for plastic and/or
formica. If mixed properly and used for the right finish, the primer
should not scrape off. I would check back with the paint store if you
applied it according to instructions.

Yes, they are real wood, at least the parts that we have been working
with. I think the others are veneer. We are stopping at the paint
store this afternoon with the door with the primer on it. We will see
what they have to say. I'll let you all know.

Thanks for the input.
Ken

Well, the paint store was very helpful. We were not waiting long
enough for the paint to cure #1 and #2 primer is not as hard a finish.
Also, we may have made the surface a little too smooth with the 220
grit. They suggested a little coarser paper and then use the 220
between the primer and finish coat(s).

Thanks for all the input.
Ken

On Sep 6, 7:13 am, avallk wrote:
We acquired a set of slightly used display cabinets to use as a desk.
The problem is that where we are using these cabinets, the wood
doesn't match, so we want to paint them. These are KraftMaid maple
cabinets with a clear finish on them. After talking to a few people
about painting them, we decided to give it a try. We tried two
different techniques. 1 - Rub the test door down with Wilbond and then
paint with primer from BenMoore. After drying for over 24 hours, the
primer scrapes right off, not a good thing. So we tried #2 - Sand the
surface with 220 grit and prime. Unfortunately, we got the same
results, the primer just scrapes off with a finger nail.

Are we being too hopeful or anxious in our attempts to make sure the
paint stays affixed to the doors? We are planning on putting on a
enamel black finish.

We are using a Craftsman Detail and Touch-up Spray Gun to do the
spraying.http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_1...Name=Automotiv...

Can anyone help with this endeavor?

Thanks
Ken

If you want the paint to last, you have to sand OFF the old finish,
then prime it and paint it. I'd use oil based paint if not white (Oil
base White yellows),
but also note that latex paint, even if touch dry, really takes a few
weeks to completely harden and can easily scratch until it completely
cures.