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gfci how many or should I just go with a electrical box version
ok I have 1 gfci in each bathroom and 1 in the kitchen and 1 in the
masterbedroom and 1 in the laundry room. is this a safe setup or should I go for more of a electrical gfci electrical breaker for better protection. also how do you wire 2 gfci in order? I tried to hook 2 inline for the kitchen countertop recptales near the sink but only 1 would work and the other wouldn't even though when I put replace the second gfci with a standard wall plug it works. |
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gfci how many or should I just go with a electrical box version
If your intention is to do what Nec requires for new installations: All
counter outlets in the kitchen, all bathroom outlets, all outlets outside, all outlets in unfinished parts of basements, and all wall outlets in garage, should be GFCI protected wrote in message ups.com... ok I have 1 gfci in each bathroom and 1 in the kitchen and 1 in the masterbedroom and 1 in the laundry room. is this a safe setup or should I go for more of a electrical gfci electrical breaker for better protection. also how do you wire 2 gfci in order? I tried to hook 2 inline for the kitchen countertop recptales near the sink but only 1 would work and the other wouldn't even though when I put replace the second gfci with a standard wall plug it works. . the house standard wiring white,black ground wiring. and the whole has is grounded as i have checked each recptacle. thanks in advance. |
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gfci how many or should I just go with a electrical box version
READ THE INSTRUCTIONS.
On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:56:23 -0700, wrote: also how do you wire 2 gfci in order? If you mean on the same circuit, you only need one total, the closest receptacle to the fuse box if you want to get them all. I tried to hook 2 inline for the kitchen countertop recptales near the sink but only 1 would work and the other wouldn't even though when I put replace the second gfci with a standard wall plug it works. |
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On Jul 19, 7:29 pm, "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote:
If your intention is to do what Nec requires for new installations: All counter outlets in the kitchen, all bathroom outlets, all outlets outside, all outlets in unfinished parts of basements, and all wall outlets in garage, should be GFCI protected wrote in message ups.com... ok I have 1 gfci in each bathroom and 1 in the kitchen and 1 in the masterbedroom and 1 in the laundry room. is this a safe setup or should I go for more of a electrical gfci electrical breaker for better protection. also how do you wire 2 gfci in order? I tried to hook 2 inline for the kitchen countertop recptales near the sink but only 1 would work and the other wouldn't even though when I put replace the second gfci with a standard wall plug it works. . the house standard wiring white,black ground wiring. and the whole has is grounded as i have checked each recptacle. thanks in advance. thanks for the info. |
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gfci how many or should I just go with a electrical box version
wrote in message ups.com... ok I have 1 gfci in each bathroom and 1 in the kitchen and 1 in the masterbedroom and 1 in the laundry room. is this a safe setup or should I go for more of a electrical gfci electrical breaker for better protection. also how do you wire 2 gfci in order? You don't... All the outlets past that one are protected. I tried to hook 2 inline for the kitchen countertop recptales near the sink but only 1 would work and the other wouldn't even though when I put replace the second gfci with a standard wall plug it works. Methinks you might want to consult a professional. |
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 02:49:18 GMT, "Noozer" wrote:
also how do you wire 2 gfci in order? You don't... All the outlets past that one are protected. I tried to hook 2 inline for the kitchen countertop recptales near the sink but only 1 would work and the other wouldn't even though when I put replace the second gfci with a standard wall plug it works. Methinks you might want to consult a professional. Maybe. Another one who thinks an outlet is a plug. |
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On Jul 19, 6:56 pm, wrote:
ok I have 1 gfci in each bathroom and 1 in the kitchen and 1 in the masterbedroom and 1 in the laundry room. is this a safe setup or should I go for more of a electrical gfci electrical breaker for better protection. I think both are safe solutions. So which ever you feel comfortable with. also how do you wire 2 gfci in order? I tried to hook 2 inline for the kitchen countertop recptales near the sink but only 1 would work and the other wouldn't even though when I put replace the second gfci with a standard wall plug it works. In general you do not need to hook two GFCI's together with one downstream of the other. In effect you will have redundant protection. Note that only one GFCI will trip when a fault condition occurs. Which one will depend on the GFCI sensitivity. i.e. pretty much 50-50 probability which one will trip. . the house standard wiring white,black ground wiring. and the whole has is grounded as i have checked each recptacle. thanks in advance. The advantage of the breaker way is that everything on the circuit is protected. Somethimes you do not want this. e.g. a fridge. Fridges should be not on GFCI circuits according to NEC code. GFCI receptacles allows you to have seperate stops for each appliance. I.E. if one thing trips a GFCI, the other appliances on othre GFCI's will remain powered up. Note that you can use a receptacle GFCI to protect everything on a circuit. You have to wire the GFCI as the First one on that circuit. All other receptacles, which can be plain vanilla receptacles (non- GFCIs) which are downstream of that are protected. You can google for GFCI info on the web. One site which takes a while to go through is the Leviton WebSite www.leviton.com. They have an ez- learn step by step on-line lecture guide on GFCI's. It takes a while to sign up etc. and sit through the demo. But I found it quite good. One final tip is if you have not already got one, maybe you should also consider buying a Volt Tic. http://us.fluke.com/usen/products/Fl...United States This senses when wires are live. It saved me a few times. About $US 20. Other maufacturers also make these, perhaps cheaper in the $US 15 range. warmest regards, Mike. |
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:28:12 -0400, mm
wrote: READ THE INSTRUCTIONS. On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 15:56:23 -0700, wrote: also how do you wire 2 gfci in order? If you mean on the same circuit, you only need one total, the closest receptacle to the fuse box if you want to get them all. And btw, there are different ways to connect the next outlet, depending on whether you want it and the ones that follow to have gfi protection or not. Read the instructions. I tried to hook 2 inline for the kitchen countertop recptales near the sink but only 1 would work and the other wouldn't even though when I put replace the second gfci with a standard wall plug it works. |
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gfci how many or should I just go with a electrical box version
I have GFI breakers in the electrical box. I like the fact that these are
all located in the breaker panel. One place to go if something trips. wrote in message ok I have 1 gfci in each bathroom and 1 in the kitchen and 1 in the masterbedroom and 1 in the laundry room. is this a safe setup or should I go for more of a electrical gfci electrical breaker for better protection. also how do you wire 2 gfci in order? I tried to hook 2 inline for the kitchen countertop recptales near the sink but only 1 would work and the other wouldn't even though when I put replace the second gfci with a standard wall plug it works. . the house standard wiring white,black ground wiring. and the whole has is grounded as i have checked each recptacle. thanks in advance. |
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gfci how many or should I just go with a electrical box version
hobbes wrote:
On Jul 19, 6:56 pm, wrote: ok I have 1 gfci in each bathroom and 1 in the kitchen and 1 in the masterbedroom and 1 in the laundry room. is this a safe setup or should I go for more of a electrical gfci electrical breaker for better protection. I think both are safe solutions. So which ever you feel comfortable with. also how do you wire 2 gfci in order? I tried to hook 2 inline for the kitchen countertop recptales near the sink but only 1 would work and the other wouldn't even though when I put replace the second gfci with a standard wall plug it works. In general you do not need to hook two GFCI's together with one downstream of the other. In effect you will have redundant protection. Note that only one GFCI will trip when a fault condition occurs. Which one will depend on the GFCI sensitivity. i.e. pretty much 50-50 probability which one will trip. . the house standard wiring white,black ground wiring. and the whole has is grounded as i have checked each recptacle. thanks in advance. The advantage of the breaker way is that everything on the circuit is protected. Somethimes you do not want this. e.g. a fridge. Fridges should be not on GFCI circuits according to NEC code. The NEC does not say refrigeration shouldn't be on GFCIs. It does say that in commercial kitchens plug-in refrigerators and freezers MUST be on GFCIs. A refrigerator should not trip a GFCI (but I would rather not put my refrigerator on one). GFCI receptacles allows you to have seperate stops for each appliance. I.E. if one thing trips a GFCI, the other appliances on othre GFCI's will remain powered up. Note that you can use a receptacle GFCI to protect everything on a circuit. You have to wire the GFCI as the First one on that circuit. All other receptacles, which can be plain vanilla receptacles (non- GFCIs) which are downstream of that are protected. A single GFCI receptacle is a lot cheaper than a GFCI breaker. -- bud-- |
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On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:31:43 -0500, bud--
wrote: A single GFCI receptacle is a lot cheaper than a GFCI breaker. I wonder why that is. bud-- |
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mm wrote:
On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 12:31:43 -0500, bud-- wrote: A single GFCI receptacle is a lot cheaper than a GFCI breaker. I wonder why that is. Some guesses- A GFCI breaker also includes overcurrent protection. A GFCI breaker is (normally) only available from the panel manufacturer - no competition. (There is competition between panels, but GFCI cost is one of a number of comparison factors.) GFCI receptacles are available from a wide variety of competing sources. GFCI receptacles are produced in very large numbers. -- bud-- |
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In article , "RBM" rbm2(remove this)
@optonline.net says... If your intention is to do what Nec requires for new installations: All counter outlets in the kitchen, all bathroom outlets, all outlets outside, all outlets in unfinished parts of basements, and all wall outlets in garage, should be GFCI protected GFCI's aren't required on refrigerators, freezers, or other devices where accidental trips may cause damage. -- Keith |
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krw wrote:
In article , "RBM" rbm2(remove this) @optonline.net says... If your intention is to do what Nec requires for new installations: All counter outlets in the kitchen, all bathroom outlets, all outlets outside, all outlets in unfinished parts of basements, and all wall outlets in garage, should be GFCI protected GFCI's aren't required on refrigerators, freezers, or other devices where accidental trips may cause damage. The NEC has no such exemption. *Some* receptacles in garages and unfinished basements are exempted from GFCI requirements depending on *where* they are located. Other receptacles, including kitchen counter, must be GFCI protected whether refrigeration is plugged in or not. And in a commercial kitchen, receptacles must be GFCI protected including those used by refrigerators and freezers. Refrigerators/freezers should not trip a GFCI. -- bud-- |
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