Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.

Any better alternative?

peter wrote:
Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.

Any better alternative?



Why?, wax rings have been used successfully in millions of installations.

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:17:14 GMT, "peter" wrote:

Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.

Any better alternative?



As for the wax ring, it does work as well as the installer does
his/her job.

As for alterntives, there are 'wax-less' products I've seen in
HD/Lowes. Big O-rings, etc.

later,

tom @ www.freecreditreportadvice.com

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:32:31 -0400, Just Joshin
wrote:

As for alterntives, there are 'wax-less' products I've seen in
HD/Lowes. Big O-rings, etc.

I wish I cold use them. My drain line makes a turn down just below the
flange and this product will not work for me.

--
Oren

...through the use of electrical or duct tape, achieve the configuration in the photo..

"peter" writes:

Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.

Any better alternative?

Movement.

I remember clearly the first wax ring I bought.
It was a plumbing supply place in the Bronx over 40 years ago.
Some old guy is standing there with a cigar in his mouth
and he tells me, the secret to a good job is to set the
toilet in plaster.

Being just barely out of high-school, that's exactly what I did.
Put the wax ring in, mixed up a trowel full of plaster and dropped
it on the floor then set the toilet in it and bolted it down.

I never heard that advice again, I don't think I've even seen
it on a.h.r but if you're worried about movement the plaster
is going to be rock hard and along with the bolts, I don't
think there's going to be any wiggling around.

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 21:30:07 -0400, Dan Espen
wrote:

"peter" writes:

Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.

Any better alternative?

Movement.

I remember clearly the first wax ring I bought.
It was a plumbing supply place in the Bronx over 40 years ago.
Some old guy is standing there with a cigar in his mouth
and he tells me, the secret to a good job is to set the
toilet in plaster.

Being just barely out of high-school, that's exactly what I did.
Put the wax ring in, mixed up a trowel full of plaster and dropped
it on the floor then set the toilet in it and bolted it down.

I never heard that advice again, I don't think I've even seen
it on a.h.r but if you're worried about movement the plaster
is going to be rock hard and along with the bolts, I don't
think there's going to be any wiggling around.

Actually, I've read here about using plaster. I've never done this,
but the thread caught my attention.



--
Oren

"The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!"

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 20:17:14 GMT, "peter" wrote:

Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.

Any better alternative?


You definitely need to stabilize the toilet so it does NOT wiggle.
If you do that, then the wax ring will seal for 100 years.

If you poorly install it so it wiggles then your home depot or
plumbing shop has some new wax ring replacement materials that are
just for you.

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:35:30 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:32:31 -0400, Just Joshin
wrote:

As for alterntives, there are 'wax-less' products I've seen in
HD/Lowes. Big O-rings, etc.

I wish I cold use them. My drain line makes a turn down just below the
flange and this product will not work for me.


Curious, why? I mean have you had problems with wax rings?

tom @ www.FreelancingProjects.com

On Jul 17, 1:17 pm, "peter" wrote:
Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.

Any better alternative?

Better? Yes, by far.

Fernco waxless toilet seal. Use one once, you'll never go back to the
wax ones again. Even movement of the stool won't break the seal as it
is flexible.

http://fernco.buyplumbing.net/store.php?category=620114

Harry K

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:06:40 -0400, Just Joshin
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:35:30 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:32:31 -0400, Just Joshin
wrote:

As for alterntives, there are 'wax-less' products I've seen in
HD/Lowes. Big O-rings, etc.

I wish I cold use them. My drain line makes a turn down just below the
flange and this product will not work for me.


Curious, why? I mean have you had problems with wax rings?

No problems. I had two toilets out for a tile job, and wanted to use
the new o-ring type unit. Brought them home and they would not work,
because the turn in the drain line. Had the turn been lower I would
have been able to seat the new one.


--
Oren

"The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!"

Harry K wrote in news:1184853467.308889.321110
@e16g2000pri.googlegroups.com:

On Jul 17, 1:17 pm, "peter" wrote:
Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.

Any better alternative?

Better? Yes, by far.

Fernco waxless toilet seal. Use one once, you'll never go back to the
wax ones again. Even movement of the stool won't break the seal as it
is flexible.

http://fernco.buyplumbing.net/store.php?category=620114

Harry K





Even movement of the stool

Well why else would you sit on the crapper?

On Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:20:52 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:06:40 -0400, Just Joshin
wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:35:30 -0700, Oren wrote:

On Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:32:31 -0400, Just Joshin
wrote:

As for alterntives, there are 'wax-less' products I've seen in
HD/Lowes. Big O-rings, etc.

I wish I cold use them. My drain line makes a turn down just below the
flange and this product will not work for me.


Curious, why? I mean have you had problems with wax rings?

No problems. I had two toilets out for a tile job, and wanted to use
the new o-ring type unit. Brought them home and they would not work,
because the turn in the drain line. Had the turn been lower I would
have been able to seat the new one.


Since marble floors are porous, wax rings are discouraged. They have
rubber ones I've seen.

tom @ www.FreeCreditReportAdvice.com

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On Jul 17, 1:17 pm, "peter" wrote:
Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.

Any better alternative?

Better? Yes, by far.

Fernco waxless toilet seal. Use one once, you'll never go back to the
wax ones again. Even movement of the stool won't break the seal as it
is flexible.

http://fernco.buyplumbing.net/store.php?category=620114

Thanks!
It looks like this type of seal narrows the pipe's inside diameter somewhat.
If added to a 3-inch drain, would it restrict the flow too much?

On Jul 20, 7:59 am, "peter" wrote:
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On Jul 17, 1:17 pm, "peter" wrote:
Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.

Any better alternative?

Better? Yes, by far.

Fernco waxless toilet seal. Use one once, you'll never go back to the
wax ones again. Even movement of the stool won't break the seal as it
is flexible.

http://fernco.buyplumbing.net/store.php?category=620114

Thanks!
It looks like this type of seal narrows the pipe's inside diameter somewhat.
If added to a 3-inch drain, would it restrict the flow too much?

That I don't know. I wouldn't think so though as anything that will
pass the toilet trap _should_ be smaller than the restriction.

Harry K

On Fri, 20 Jul 2007 14:59:13 GMT, "peter" wrote:

"Harry K" wrote in message
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On Jul 17, 1:17 pm, "peter" wrote:
Is a wax ring the best technology to seal between toilet and flange?
Since wax is not elastic, slight movement while attaching (or after
attaching) the toilet back on could cause the seal to become broken.

Any better alternative?

Better? Yes, by far.

Fernco waxless toilet seal. Use one once, you'll never go back to the
wax ones again. Even movement of the stool won't break the seal as it
is flexible.

http://fernco.buyplumbing.net/store.php?category=620114

Thanks!
It looks like this type of seal narrows the pipe's inside diameter somewhat.
If added to a 3-inch drain, would it restrict the flow too much?


Not at all since the commode has a 2.x in drain.