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How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
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I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
RS wrote: Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi it all depends on how far and difficult it is to replace wiring and outlet....... plus does your breaker box have any unused slots? is the wire exposed? or hidden? Frankly unless your treadmill is a PRO model its hard to believe it will really need 20 amps. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
RS wrote:
I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? The material cost on this would be fairly small. The vast majority of the cost would be in labour. In any case, you should probably get a few more estimates. Do you know anyone else there? Find out if they have had electrical work done, who they hired to do it, and what they thought of them. Chris |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
A dedicated 20 amp cable must be run from the circuit breaker panel to the
location of the outlet. The easier and quicker it is to do this, the less it will cost. I would suggest getting another estimate "RS" wrote in message ups.com... Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
RS wrote: Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi It's not at all possible to even guess at an answer to that question. If there is a circuit breaker panel in the garage and the garage walls are unfinished, I would say that's way too much. On the otherhand, if the breaker panel is in the house and he has to fish cable through the attic and walls, it might be a reasonable price. If the breaker panel is in the house, I would consider spending some extra money and running a heavy cable to the garage and installing a new breaker panel in the garage. While you are at it, you might want to considering adding a provision for future wiring to a backyard shed. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
Thank you for all the replies. Yes the treadmill is a PRO model - it's
a Sole F85! The wires are concealed and the distance from the circuit breaker for the 2 wall will be approximately 10 feet and 17 feet. Also the electrician mentioned getting a permit from the city electric board - I wasn't aware we had to do that! Rashmi (RS wrote: Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
Frankly unless your treadmill is a PRO model its hard to believe it will really need 20 amps. I guess he will dump energy back to the grid when he is on the treadmill. I would not tangle with him! Seriously, 20A seems a bit much. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
On 6 Dec 2006 15:38:27 -0800, "RS" wrote:
Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi You might be able to do it yourself. The first thing you should do (with the power off) is pull out the receptacle. If it has #12 wire then changing the outlet and the breaker is all that is needed. You should also find out what does not work with the power off. A treadmill is something you don't need to use if anything else is on the circuit that carries a big load. If you have #14 gauge wire then you might still be able to use the treadmill by only changing the receptacle. You should not change the breaker in this case. --- 9 out of 10 dentists agree that 1 out of 10 dentists are morons. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
On 6 Dec 2006 15:38:27 -0800, "RS" wrote:
Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi I thought a treadmill worked off people power. I can't imagine why you would have one that needs a 20A circuit |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
You may want to try snaking the new 12ga wire from the treadmill room to the
main panel your self and then just have some one put the breaker in for you I'm sure there's someone in your family or at work that could put in a breaker for you if not hire a electrician for the outlet and breaker install all the real work is getting that wire through the walls. even do the outlet yourself just use a old works box they are very simple to install. "RS" wrote in message ups.com... Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
In article .com, "RS" wrote:
Thank you for all the replies. Yes the treadmill is a PRO model - it's a Sole F85! The wires are concealed and the distance from the circuit breaker for the 2 wall will be approximately 10 feet and 17 feet. Since the wires are concealed, he's going to have to open up the wall at some point -- which means repairing it after he's done. His quote seems a bit steep to me, though, even accounting for that. I wonder if he considered running the new cable up from the breaker panel to the attic over the garage (assuming you *have* an attic up there!), and from there back down to wherever you want the outlet. That should be less expensive, even though it takes more wire, because there won't be nearly as much labor in opening up walls and repairing afterward. Also the electrician mentioned getting a permit from the city electric board - I wasn't aware we had to do that! In most cities, it's the contractor's responsibility to get the permit, not the homeowner's. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
In article , Terry wrote:
If you have #14 gauge wire then you might still be able to use the treadmill by only changing the receptacle. You should not change the breaker in this case. NO NO NO NO NO !!!! This is UNSAFE, because it enables plugging in a load that will draw more current than the wire can safely carry. DO NOT put a 20amp plug on a circuit that has only 14ga wire. UNSAFE. ILLEGAL. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
Terry wrote:
On 6 Dec 2006 15:38:27 -0800, "RS" wrote: Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi I thought a treadmill worked off people power. I can't imagine why you would have one that needs a 20A circuit Only the really cheap ones don't have motors. Mine has a 2 HP DC motor. It is not a pro model. I have seen them with at least 3.5HP motors (note these are not the inflated numbers). Using what ever system they use to come up for advertising use I have seen 6 HP listed. -- Joseph Meehan Dia 's Muire duit |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
I seriously doubt you will find 12 gauge wire on a 15 amp
breaker....... Such projects require creative thinking on how easily to run cable or even a better location for the treadmill. .. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
RS wrote: Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi I agree with the op about checking the gauge of the wire first. Is it 12 or 14? You could possibly have #12 wire (20 amp) on a 15 amp breaker. In that case all you need to do is switch out the breaker to a 20 amp. -Felder |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
RS wrote:
Thank you for all the replies. Yes the treadmill is a PRO model - it's a Sole F85! The wires are concealed and the distance from the circuit breaker for the 2 wall will be approximately 10 feet and 17 feet. Also the electrician mentioned getting a permit from the city electric board - I wasn't aware we had to do that! Rashmi Jeepers, a 3.5 HP motor for a one person treadmill? Hard to believe, but that's what they claim: http://www.soletreadmills.com/details.php?name=F85 I bet that's the same "peak starting" horsepower "BS" claimed for many cheap air compressors and some vacuum cleaners too. 3.5 HP is 2611 watts (at 100% efficiency no less). You can't take that much continuously from a 20 amp 120 volt circuit without popping the breaker. Before you spend money on new wiring I'd suggest you find someone with an ac ammeter, plug the treadmill into your present 15 amp circuit, and have them measure the actual current it's drawing when during typical usage. At worst you'll pop the breaker if my assumption about that horsepower "hype" is incorrect. You might just be pleasantly suprised to find out it never draws enough current to overload a 15 amp circuit. If it does, then spend the money on new wiring. HTH, Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
Joseph Meehan wrote:
Terry wrote: On 6 Dec 2006 15:38:27 -0800, "RS" wrote: Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi I thought a treadmill worked off people power. I can't imagine why you would have one that needs a 20A circuit Only the really cheap ones don't have motors. Mine has a 2 HP DC motor. It is not a pro model. I have seen them with at least 3.5HP motors (note these are not the inflated numbers). Using what ever system they use to come up for advertising use I have seen 6 HP listed. That just proves that some people will buy almost anything. Jogging requires no electricity. -- The e-mail address in our reply-to line is reversed in an attempt to minimize spam. Our true address is of the form . |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
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How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
wrote in message oups.com... I seriously doubt you will find 12 gauge wire on a 15 amp breaker....... That is certainly not true. When copper was cheaper some electricians didn't bother to stock 14 & 12; they just ran 12 everywhere. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
"Doug Miller" wrote in message . net... In article , Terry wrote: If you have #14 gauge wire then you might still be able to use the treadmill by only changing the receptacle. You should not change the breaker in this case. NO NO NO NO NO !!!! This is UNSAFE, because it enables plugging in a load that will draw more current than the wire can safely carry. DO NOT put a 20amp plug on a circuit that has only 14ga wire. UNSAFE. ILLEGAL. It is probably unsafe, but not necessarily. They could have put a 20a plug on a device that draws 3a. Unsafe? Maybe. Illegal? Sure. It is hard to believe that a treadmill take more power than my table saw. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
"RS" wrote in message ups.com... Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. Can the treadmill run on 240v? It would be relatively cheap to change the circuit to a 240v/15a; though obviously you would have to change/disconnect all the other outlets on the circuit. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
People do all sorts of Rube Goldberg things, but in the electrical field, if
the proper standards are followed, second guessing shouldn't be a factor. If the manufacturer installs a 20 amp plug on a device, it should draw more than 12 amps and no more than 16 at full load "Toller" wrote in message ... "Doug Miller" wrote in message . net... In article , Terry wrote: If you have #14 gauge wire then you might still be able to use the treadmill by only changing the receptacle. You should not change the breaker in this case. NO NO NO NO NO !!!! This is UNSAFE, because it enables plugging in a load that will draw more current than the wire can safely carry. DO NOT put a 20amp plug on a circuit that has only 14ga wire. UNSAFE. ILLEGAL. It is probably unsafe, but not necessarily. They could have put a 20a plug on a device that draws 3a. Unsafe? Maybe. Illegal? Sure. It is hard to believe that a treadmill take more power than my table saw. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
In article , "Toller" wrote:
"Doug Miller" wrote in message .net... In article , Terry wrote: If you have #14 gauge wire then you might still be able to use the treadmill by only changing the receptacle. You should not change the breaker in this case. NO NO NO NO NO !!!! This is UNSAFE, because it enables plugging in a load that will draw more current than the wire can safely carry. DO NOT put a 20amp plug on a circuit that has only 14ga wire. UNSAFE. ILLEGAL. It is probably unsafe, but not necessarily. They could have put a 20a plug on a device that draws 3a. No, it IS unsafe, period -- because it enables plugging in a 20A load on a circuit that cannot safely carry 20A. Maybe the load the OP is going to plug into it today only draws 3A -- but you can't predict what might be plugged in there tomorrow, or next week, or next year. It absolutely is unsafe to attach a 20A receptacle to a 15A circuit. There is a REASON why 20A plugs and receptacles exist: to keep them from being plugged in on 15A circuits. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
Toller wrote: "RS" wrote in message ups.com... Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. Can the treadmill run on 240v? It would be relatively cheap to change the circuit to a 240v/15a; though obviously you would have to change/disconnect all the other outlets on the circuit. sorry you would need 4 conductors, 3 wire 240 isnt permitted |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
In article .com, " wrote:
Toller wrote: "RS" wrote in message ups.com... Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. Can the treadmill run on 240v? It would be relatively cheap to change the circuit to a 240v/15a; though obviously you would have to change/disconnect all the other outlets on the circuit. sorry you would need 4 conductors, 3 wire 240 isnt permitted False. 3-wire 240V is just fine for any purely 240V load (e.g. resistance heating, or a 240V motor). 4-wire is required *only* for devices that have both 240V and 120V loads, such as a clothes dryer or an electric range, both of which have 240V heating elements and 120V control and timer circuits. -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
I agree with the op about checking the gauge of the wire first. Is it 12 or 14? You could possibly have #12 wire (20 amp) on a 15 amp breaker. In that case all you need to do is switch out the breaker to a 20 amp. -Felder WARNING although the wire gauge at that outlet MIGHT BE 12 thats no guarantee its 12 gauge thruout the entire breakers circuit! for any number of reasons like voltage drop somone MAY have run a 12 gauge wire part way thru the circuit .............. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
I doubt the machine could be wired 240 volt, but why would it require four
wire. It's not a cooking equipment wrote in message oups.com... Toller wrote: "RS" wrote in message ups.com... Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. Can the treadmill run on 240v? It would be relatively cheap to change the circuit to a 240v/15a; though obviously you would have to change/disconnect all the other outlets on the circuit. sorry you would need 4 conductors, 3 wire 240 isnt permitted |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
RS wrote:
Thank you for all the replies. Yes the treadmill is a PRO model - it's a Sole F85! The wires are concealed and the distance from the circuit breaker for the 2 wall will be approximately 10 feet and 17 feet. Also the electrician mentioned getting a permit from the city electric board - I wasn't aware we had to do that! Rashmi (RS wrote: Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi I gotta tell ya, at first I thought you were being raked over the coals by that contractor, but after viewing the website for Seattle's Building Dept.: https://egov1.seattle.gov/dpd/Online...WhatKindOfWork Indeed, any electrical work short of replacing a switch, receptacle, ballast, or fuse requires an electrical permit in Seattle! That explains the ridiculous prices that you were quoted. Try to get some more bids to see if that price is in the ballpark for your area. In my area $300(US) will get one a 20 amp circuit anywhere in any house. Good luck, you're gonna need it. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
I used to hear that the suicide rate in Seattle was the highest in the
country, but I thought it was because of the weather "volts500" wrote in message ps.com... RS wrote: Thank you for all the replies. Yes the treadmill is a PRO model - it's a Sole F85! The wires are concealed and the distance from the circuit breaker for the 2 wall will be approximately 10 feet and 17 feet. Also the electrician mentioned getting a permit from the city electric board - I wasn't aware we had to do that! Rashmi (RS wrote: Hi I just moved to Seattle and we bought a treadmill which we've kept in the garage. Now the garage has a 15amp circuit but the treadmill needs a 20 amp one. We asked an electrician to give us a quote to change from 15 to 20 and he has quoted $600 for the wall closet to the door and $900 for a wall further. I am novice at this, could someone tell me what would be a good price to pay for this? Thanks Rashmi I gotta tell ya, at first I thought you were being raked over the coals by that contractor, but after viewing the website for Seattle's Building Dept.: https://egov1.seattle.gov/dpd/Online...WhatKindOfWork Indeed, any electrical work short of replacing a switch, receptacle, ballast, or fuse requires an electrical permit in Seattle! That explains the ridiculous prices that you were quoted. Try to get some more bids to see if that price is in the ballpark for your area. In my area $300(US) will get one a 20 amp circuit anywhere in any house. Good luck, you're gonna need it. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
That is so not true. It is called cover your ass.
I have 3 kitchen appliances that have digital clocks. The instructions say to unplug the appliance when not in use. Why would you put a digital clock on a device that you only plug up for an hour a day? On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:24:48 -0500, "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote: People do all sorts of Rube Goldberg things, but in the electrical field, if the proper standards are followed, second guessing shouldn't be a factor. If the manufacturer installs a 20 amp plug on a device, it should draw more than 12 amps and no more than 16 at full load "Toller" wrote in message ... "Doug Miller" wrote in message . net... In article , Terry wrote: If you have #14 gauge wire then you might still be able to use the treadmill by only changing the receptacle. You should not change the breaker in this case. NO NO NO NO NO !!!! This is UNSAFE, because it enables plugging in a load that will draw more current than the wire can safely carry. DO NOT put a 20amp plug on a circuit that has only 14ga wire. UNSAFE. ILLEGAL. It is probably unsafe, but not necessarily. They could have put a 20a plug on a device that draws 3a. Unsafe? Maybe. Illegal? Sure. It is hard to believe that a treadmill take more power than my table saw. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
No, actually its called National Electric Code, and Underwriters
Laboratories "Terry" wrote in message ... That is so not true. It is called cover your ass. I have 3 kitchen appliances that have digital clocks. The instructions say to unplug the appliance when not in use. Why would you put a digital clock on a device that you only plug up for an hour a day? On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:24:48 -0500, "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote: People do all sorts of Rube Goldberg things, but in the electrical field, if the proper standards are followed, second guessing shouldn't be a factor. If the manufacturer installs a 20 amp plug on a device, it should draw more than 12 amps and no more than 16 at full load "Toller" wrote in message ... "Doug Miller" wrote in message . net... In article , Terry wrote: If you have #14 gauge wire then you might still be able to use the treadmill by only changing the receptacle. You should not change the breaker in this case. NO NO NO NO NO !!!! This is UNSAFE, because it enables plugging in a load that will draw more current than the wire can safely carry. DO NOT put a 20amp plug on a circuit that has only 14ga wire. UNSAFE. ILLEGAL. It is probably unsafe, but not necessarily. They could have put a 20a plug on a device that draws 3a. Unsafe? Maybe. Illegal? Sure. It is hard to believe that a treadmill take more power than my table saw. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
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How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
RBM (remove this) wrote: I doubt the machine could be wired 240 volt, but why would it require four wire. It's not a cooking equipment I have a 4 wire compressor. 2 hots, 1 neutral and a ground. I think more and more 240 volt appliances are going 4 wire. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
On 6 Dec 2006 18:34:19 -0800, "
wrote: I agree with the op about checking the gauge of the wire first. Is it 12 or 14? You could possibly have #12 wire (20 amp) on a 15 amp breaker. In that case all you need to do is switch out the breaker to a 20 amp. -Felder WARNING although the wire gauge at that outlet MIGHT BE 12 thats no guarantee its 12 gauge thruout the entire breakers circuit! for any number of reasons like voltage drop somone MAY have run a 12 gauge wire part way thru the circuit .............. This is true, but it can be a reasonable assumption if you have #12 at the outlet (in and out). You can then check the panel and if it has #12 you can be reasonably sure. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
"sorry you would need 4 conductors, 3 wire 240 isn't permitted" It is
permitted where applicable. Some equipment require neutrals and some don't wrote in message ups.com... RBM (remove this) wrote: I doubt the machine could be wired 240 volt, but why would it require four wire. It's not a cooking equipment I have a 4 wire compressor. 2 hots, 1 neutral and a ground. I think more and more 240 volt appliances are going 4 wire. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
for any number of reasons like voltage drop somone MAY have run a 12 gauge wire part way thru the circuit .............. This is true, but it can be a reasonable assumption if you have #12 at the outlet (in and out). You can then check the panel and if it has #12 you can be reasonably sure. I SUGGEST someone check EVERY outlet and fixture on that circuit! People do all sorts of wird things. I know someone wh combined many circuits in work boxes to save some ground wires:( better safe than sorry. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
"Doug Miller" wrote in message ... In article , "Toller" wrote: "Doug Miller" wrote in message y.net... In article , Terry wrote: If you have #14 gauge wire then you might still be able to use the treadmill by only changing the receptacle. You should not change the breaker in this case. NO NO NO NO NO !!!! This is UNSAFE, because it enables plugging in a load that will draw more current than the wire can safely carry. DO NOT put a 20amp plug on a circuit that has only 14ga wire. UNSAFE. ILLEGAL. It is probably unsafe, but not necessarily. They could have put a 20a plug on a device that draws 3a. No, it IS unsafe, period -- because it enables plugging in a 20A load on a circuit that cannot safely carry 20A. Maybe the load the OP is going to plug into it today only draws 3A -- but you can't predict what might be plugged in there tomorrow, or next week, or next year. It absolutely is unsafe to attach a 20A receptacle to a 15A circuit. There is a REASON why 20A plugs and receptacles exist: to keep them from being plugged in on 15A circuits. Except for my table saw I don't think I have even seen anything that required 20a. Chances of a problem are remote. Especially since a) it would only be a small overload; my 23a water heater ran on #12 for 35 years before I noticed it, and b) the breaker should cover it. However, your point is not without merit. If the item can run on a 15a circuit it would be better to change the plug. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
"RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... I doubt the machine could be wired 240 volt, but why would it require four wire. It's not a cooking equipment Probably not, there are likely to be some displays or something else that require 120v, but to save $900 it is worth looking into. If the damn thing actually requires a 20a circuit, it should be convertable. |
How much does it cost to change 15amp circuit to 20 amp
Toller wrote: "RBM" rbm2(remove wrote in message ... I doubt the machine could be wired 240 volt, but why would it require four wire. It's not a cooking equipment Probably not, there are likely to be some displays or something else that require 120v, but to save $900 it is worth looking into. If the damn thing actually requires a 20a circuit, it should be convertable. well if theres nothing else on that circuit it could be converted to 240 at the breaker end then install a transformer to take the 240 back to 120..... but in all honesty it might be cheaper to buy a brand new treadmill that runs on 15 amp...... new treadmill with all the latest best features including safety ones...... does the treadmill have a 20 amp plug on it? any other close by 20 amp circuits around? whats on the other side of that garage wall? |
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