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Burning green/wet firewood
What are the real dangers of burning green/wet firewood? I had a good hot
bed of coals going in my wood stove, and I stuck in what turned out to be a couple of green chunks of wood (was not intentional). They quickly burst into flame and burned fairly well, though a bit slower then the dry stuff. Are there conditions, such as a hot established fire, where you can burn green/wet wood, if it burns quickly and well? |
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"Ook" Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam wrote in message ... What are the real dangers of burning green/wet firewood? I had a good hot bed of coals going in my wood stove, and I stuck in what turned out to be a couple of green chunks of wood (was not intentional). They quickly burst into flame and burned fairly well, though a bit slower then the dry stuff. Are there conditions, such as a hot established fire, where you can burn green/wet wood, if it burns quickly and well? Smoldering fires generate more creosote: http://www.ca.uky.edu/agc/pubs/for/for35/for35.htm |
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Ook wrote:
What are the real dangers of burning green/wet firewood? I had a good hot bed of coals going in my wood stove, and I stuck in what turned out to be a couple of green chunks of wood (was not intentional). They quickly burst into flame and burned fairly well, though a bit slower then the dry stuff. Are there conditions, such as a hot established fire, where you can burn green/wet wood, if it burns quickly and well? Wet or unseasoned wood greatly increases the accumulation of creosote. The large amount of moisture from burning wet wood condenses in the chimney and adds to creosote formation as well as the acrid odor. The periodic use of a good liquid or powder chimney cleaner which is sprayed on the burning wood is essential to the wood burner. This type of product will not elminiate the need to clean your chimney or the formation of creosote, but it will make the cleaning task much easier. Creosote - Creosote can be defined as a combustible deposit in the venting system which begins as condensed wood smoke including tar fogs and vapors. Creosote is a by-product of incomplete combustion. If a fuel is fully burned there will be no smoke and, therefore, no creosote. Creosote will be hard brown or black and form either curly, flaky deposits or bubbly deposits in the venting system. Creosote is flammable. The reply is quoted from both http://hearth.com/what/guidelines.html and http://www.rutland.com/info/creoedit.htm |
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Creosote is flammable.
As anyone who has ever had a chimney fire will attest to ;) |
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I did nearly 30 years ago. The little box stove was very hot. Then
I started hearing the airflow. It got loud and I cut the air intake totally although I wasn't totally sure that I was having a chimney fire. After a few minutes it stopped. I didn't call the Fire Dept but probably should have. [Neighbors told me flames were shooting up 30 feet and airplanes were avoiding the area. :-)] Charles Schuler wrote: Creosote is flammable. As anyone who has ever had a chimney fire will attest to ;) |
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"Stubby" wrote in message ... I did nearly 30 years ago. The little box stove was very hot. Then I started hearing the airflow. It got loud and I cut the air intake totally although I wasn't totally sure that I was having a chimney fire. After a few minutes it stopped. I didn't call the Fire Dept but probably should have. [Neighbors told me flames were shooting up 30 feet and airplanes were avoiding the area. :-)] Laughing ... that's pretty much what I experienced ... saw it myself ... it was like 4th of July above my roof. The roaring sound tipped me off, so I went outside to look. Luckily, it was raining that night so I didn't need to worry about secondary fires. The bad news was that my ceramic flu liner cracked :( |
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I've heard different ways to extinguish chimney fires. Dry chem powder
extinguishers seem to be the most reccomended. Leaves an incredible mess, though. Better than losing the entire house. I've wondered if a water mist (garden sprayer) would fill the chimney with steam, while not severely cooling the chimney. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "Charles Schuler" wrote in message . .. "Stubby" wrote in message ... I did nearly 30 years ago. The little box stove was very hot. Then I started hearing the airflow. It got loud and I cut the air intake totally although I wasn't totally sure that I was having a chimney fire. After a few minutes it stopped. I didn't call the Fire Dept but probably should have. [Neighbors told me flames were shooting up 30 feet and airplanes were avoiding the area. :-)] Laughing ... that's pretty much what I experienced ... saw it myself .... it was like 4th of July above my roof. The roaring sound tipped me off, so I went outside to look. Luckily, it was raining that night so I didn't need to worry about secondary fires. The bad news was that my ceramic flu liner cracked :( |
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"Stubby" wrote in message
... I did nearly 30 years ago. The little box stove was very hot. Then I started hearing the airflow. It got loud and I cut the air intake totally although I wasn't totally sure that I was having a chimney fire. After a few minutes it stopped. I didn't call the Fire Dept but probably should have. [Neighbors told me flames were shooting up 30 feet and airplanes were avoiding the area. :-)] Modern building codes for woodstove steel chimneys require that they withstand temperatures of 2000 Fahr. Normal burning is in the range 200-500 and creosote fires in chimneys commonly exceed 1000 Fahr. If you are sure your chimney is OK, some firemen recommend a chimney fire as the fastest way to clean it. The sound is terrifying but seldom lasts more than 10 minutes. The main danger is more probably sparks on the roof than overheating interior structures -- but only if you are sure your chimney is in good condition, double-walled, etc. We had two such fires in 12 years and this is what the firemen told us. They did not mind being called out although both times they arrived long after the chimney fire had exhausted itself. -- Don Phillipson Carlsbad Springs (Ottawa, Canada) |
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"Don Phillipson" wrote in message ... "Stubby" wrote in message ... I did nearly 30 years ago. The little box stove was very hot. Then I started hearing the airflow. It got loud and I cut the air intake totally although I wasn't totally sure that I was having a chimney fire. After a few minutes it stopped. I didn't call the Fire Dept but probably should have. [Neighbors told me flames were shooting up 30 feet and airplanes were avoiding the area. :-)] Modern building codes for woodstove steel chimneys require that they withstand temperatures of 2000 Fahr. Normal burning is in the range 200-500 and creosote fires in chimneys commonly exceed 1000 Fahr. If you are sure your chimney is OK, some firemen recommend a chimney fire as the fastest way to clean it. The sound is terrifying but seldom lasts more than 10 minutes. The main danger is more probably sparks on the roof than overheating interior structures -- but only if you are sure your chimney is in good condition, double-walled, etc. Some firemen recommend a chimney fire to clean it? I don't think that's a good idea. |
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On Sun, 29 Oct 2006 16:40:17 -0500, "Don Phillipson"
wrote: "Stubby" wrote in message ... I did nearly 30 years ago. The little box stove was very hot. Then I started hearing the airflow. It got loud and I cut the air intake totally although I wasn't totally sure that I was having a chimney fire. After a few minutes it stopped. I didn't call the Fire Dept but probably should have. [Neighbors told me flames were shooting up 30 feet and airplanes were avoiding the area. :-)] Modern building codes for woodstove steel chimneys require that they withstand temperatures of 2000 Fahr. Normal burning is in the range 200-500 and creosote fires in chimneys commonly exceed 1000 Fahr. If you are sure your chimney is OK, some firemen recommend a chimney fire as the fastest way to clean it. The sound is terrifying but seldom lasts more than 10 minutes. The main danger is more probably sparks on the roof than overheating interior structures -- but only if you are sure your chimney is in good condition, double-walled, etc. We had two such fires in 12 years and this is what the firemen told us. They did not mind being called out although both times they arrived long after the chimney fire had exhausted itself. If you *DO* have a chimney fire, you shouldn't burn in that stove/fireplace again until someone inspects the chimney. And no, you shouldn't ever start a chimney fire on purpose. |
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Are you the mean man who burned Santa a couple years back? You should
be ashamed. -- Christopher A. Young You can't shout down a troll. You have to starve them. .. "Stubby" wrote in message ... I did nearly 30 years ago. The little box stove was very hot. Then I started hearing the airflow. It got loud and I cut the air intake totally although I wasn't totally sure that I was having a chimney fire. After a few minutes it stopped. I didn't call the Fire Dept but probably should have. [Neighbors told me flames were shooting up 30 feet and airplanes were avoiding the area. :-)] Charles Schuler wrote: Creosote is flammable. As anyone who has ever had a chimney fire will attest to ;) |
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Burning green/wet firewood
"Ook" Ook Don't send me any freakin' spam at zootal dot com delete the Don't send me any freakin' spam wrote in message ... What are the real dangers of burning green/wet firewood? I had a good hot bed of coals going in my wood stove, and I stuck in what turned out to be a couple of green chunks of wood (was not intentional). They quickly burst into flame and burned fairly well, though a bit slower then the dry stuff. Are there conditions, such as a hot established fire, where you can burn green/wet wood, if it burns quickly and well? The wet wood takes a lot of the energy of the fire to evaporate the water in the wood before it will burn. The result is much less heat from burning it. Let it dry first. As others said, creosote problems will be higher also. Bob |
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