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JustinW wrote: Hi All, I'm rehabbing a building that is 40-50 years old. While mowing the tall grass, I ran over a outside faucet and destroyed it. I dug up the line and intended to plug it. It was half inch galvanized pipe. It was originally assembled with some type of thread-sealing pipe dope that has long ago turned rock hard. What I tried to remove the first connection, I put a cheater bar over a pipe wrench and tried to unscrew the damaged fitting. The pipe was weakened by corrosion and it just crushed. I went up the water line and broke several other fittings. I'm now working under the house in a tough environment -- very little crawlspace, sloping ground and a few other things. I'm trying to remove a half inch reducer screwed into a three quarter galvanized T. It's the last fitting before I encounter serious expense doing some wholesale repiping. So far, I've used a propane torch on the galvanized T while periodically dousing the reducer with water. I've also used about 5,000 gallons of penetrating oil. I don't have room for a cheater (good thing huh?) and so far I can't budge the reducer with two-foot pipe wrenches. Any thoughts or ideas would be seriously appreciated. Justin .. Can you just cap it off at some point where the pipe seems reasonably substantial and get- at-able. Even if you have to hacksaw off the pipe and then cut a thread on it onto which to screw a galvanised cap? Just an idea anyway. |
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JustinW wrote: On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:55:37 -0700, terry wrote: . Can you just cap it off at some point where the pipe seems reasonably substantial and get- at-able. Even if you have to hacksaw off the pipe and then cut a thread on it onto which to screw a galvanised cap? Just an idea anyway. I did rent and use a portable manual pipe threader some time back. I wonder where I could find one of these... Great idea -- thanks! That would have been my first thought, but I would probably have just cut if off at the first elbow so could put the spigot back...but, anyway, that's over-- For up to inch pipe a manual threader isn't bad at all and imo something one should have, anyway. But, for simply one or two joints, a die and a handle is all you would have to have unless the quarters are so tight you must have the ratcheting handle. Would think you could do the minimal "get by with" for not much over a rental fee and have it for the future, besides. Another comment/thought or two--heat is good, but need more than a propane torch to have much luck for really stuck pieces--an oxy/acetylene torch is best of course, although I've been told Mapp gas will work, I've not tried it (since I have a torch, not had the need). Of course, gotta' be careful w/ the flame around stuff so under the house isn't really good place to practice! If you must get back to the tee for some reason, I'd seriously consider the same trick of cutting the tee out of the existing pipe and fitting a new section in. Could use a union if lacking space or can't turn the other end to make the final connection. If it is a reducing bushing and not a reducing coupling, then the idea of splitting it isn't so feasible. There are also splitters for pipe fittings simliar to nut splitters if it is a real bear and need more repair in the future. As for pipe dope, most, while they will harden w/ time don't actually sieze so maybe this wasn't really a pipe dope anyway. Or there wasn't enough to prevent the buildup of corrosion to the point the threads are actually rusted together throughout the joint. A good quality dope should be fine for reassembly imo. |
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dpb wrote: JustinW wrote: Can you just cap it off at some point where the pipe seems reasonably substantial and get- at-able. Even if you have to hacksaw off the pipe and then cut a thread on it onto which to screw a galvanised cap? Just an idea anyway. I did rent and use a portable manual pipe threader some time back. I wonder where I could find one of these... That would have been my first thought, but I would probably have just cut if off at the first elbow so could put the spigot back...but, anyway, that's over-- For up to inch pipe a manual threader isn't bad at all and imo something one should have, anyway. But, for simply one or two joints, a die and a handle is all you would have to have unless the quarters are so tight you must have the ratcheting handle. Would think you could do the minimal "get by with" for not much over a rental fee and have it for the future, besides. I have one of these and can reccomend: http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...=pipe+threader and the die: http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...archId=1260903 |
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"Lawrence" wrote in message ups.com... dpb wrote: JustinW wrote: .. I have one of these and can reccomend: http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...=pipe+threader and the die: http://www.acehardware.com/product/i...archId=1260903 You could try one of these: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/cta...emnumber=38438 I can't comment on the quality of this as I've never used it but it would be rather inexpensive and probably work the few times you might use it. Cheers, cc |
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