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All,

I was surprised to find little about this topic searching the internet,
but as a first floor condo owner my upstairs neighbors drive me crazy
with their opening and closing of their sliding glass door. My one
neighbor directly above me smokes and every 10 minutes I hear their
sliding glass door noise reverberating throughout my apartment. It
almost sounds like somone dragging a wooden crate across pavement just
above my head no matter where I am in the unit.

The harder/faster they open and close door the more noise it makes.
I've asked them to do it slower and the one upstairs neighbor replaced
the wheels on the door but it still makes that sound. I think the
sound I hear is the friction from the heavy weight of the door being
dragged. I also hear the unit above and to the right of my unit.

Are there any solutions to this? Any suggestions/ideas I can make to
my neighbors? I am surprised sliding glass doors are so poorly
designed as some type of system to stabilize the weight against the
ground could counteract this and create a "smooth and quiet" sliding
experience. I have not found anything like this in my searches.

Please help.

Annoyed in Florida...

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All,

I was surprised to find little about this topic searching the internet,
but as a first floor condo owner my upstairs neighbors drive me crazy
with their opening and closing of their sliding glass door. My one
neighbor directly above me smokes and every 10 minutes I hear their
sliding glass door noise reverberating throughout my apartment. It
almost sounds like somone dragging a wooden crate across pavement just
above my head no matter where I am in the unit.

The harder/faster they open and close door the more noise it makes.
I've asked them to do it slower and the one upstairs neighbor replaced
the wheels on the door but it still makes that sound. I think the
sound I hear is the friction from the heavy weight of the door being
dragged. I also hear the unit above and to the right of my unit.

Are there any solutions to this? Any suggestions/ideas I can make to
my neighbors? I am surprised sliding glass doors are so poorly
designed as some type of system to stabilize the weight against the
ground could counteract this and create a "smooth and quiet" sliding
experience. I have not found anything like this in my searches.

Please help.

Annoyed in Florida...


For a better gliding door, tracks and rollers should be thoroughly
cleaned. I use a small amount of "armour all" on the tracks, felt on
the door and rollers.

Some adjustment to the door, may also be in order.

Getting the guy next door to clean tracks? Good luck.


Oren

"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."
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On 1 Jun 2006 13:34:52 -0700, "
wrote:

All,

I was surprised to find little about this topic searching the internet,
but as a first floor condo owner my upstairs neighbors drive me crazy
with their opening and closing of their sliding glass door. My one
neighbor directly above me smokes and every 10 minutes I hear their
sliding glass door noise reverberating throughout my apartment. It
almost sounds like somone dragging a wooden crate across pavement just
above my head no matter where I am in the unit.

The harder/faster they open and close door the more noise it makes.
I've asked them to do it slower and the one upstairs neighbor replaced
the wheels on the door but it still makes that sound. I think the
sound I hear is the friction from the heavy weight of the door being
dragged. I also hear the unit above and to the right of my unit.

Are there any solutions to this? Any suggestions/ideas I can make to
my neighbors? I am surprised sliding glass doors are so poorly
designed as some type of system to stabilize the weight against the
ground could counteract this and create a "smooth and quiet" sliding
experience. I have not found anything like this in my searches.


Clearly you are not well suited to living in an apartment complex.
Get over it, or move.

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wrote:

All,

I was surprised to find little about this topic searching the internet,
but as a first floor condo owner my upstairs neighbors drive me crazy
with their opening and closing of their sliding glass door. My one
neighbor directly above me smokes and every 10 minutes I hear their
sliding glass door noise reverberating throughout my apartment. It
almost sounds like somone dragging a wooden crate across pavement just
above my head no matter where I am in the unit.

The harder/faster they open and close door the more noise it makes.
I've asked them to do it slower and the one upstairs neighbor replaced
the wheels on the door but it still makes that sound. I think the
sound I hear is the friction from the heavy weight of the door being
dragged. I also hear the unit above and to the right of my unit.

Are there any solutions to this? Any suggestions/ideas I can make to
my neighbors? I am surprised sliding glass doors are so poorly
designed as some type of system to stabilize the weight against the
ground could counteract this and create a "smooth and quiet" sliding
experience. I have not found anything like this in my searches.

Please help.

Annoyed in Florida...


For a better gliding door, tracks and rollers should be thoroughly
cleaned. I use a small amount of "armour all" on the tracks, felt on
the door and rollers.

Some adjustment to the door, may also be in order.

Any reference available on how to adjust doors? Mine haven't worked
properly for years (they bind...) but I don't know what they need.


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wrote:
: All,

: I was surprised to find little about this topic searching the internet,
: but as a first floor condo owner my upstairs neighbors drive me crazy
: with their opening and closing of their sliding glass door. My one
: neighbor directly above me smokes and every 10 minutes I hear their
: sliding glass door noise reverberating throughout my apartment. It
: almost sounds like somone dragging a wooden crate across pavement just
: above my head no matter where I am in the unit.

: The harder/faster they open and close door the more noise it makes.
: I've asked them to do it slower and the one upstairs neighbor replaced
: the wheels on the door but it still makes that sound. I think the
: sound I hear is the friction from the heavy weight of the door being
: dragged. I also hear the unit above and to the right of my unit.

: Are there any solutions to this? Any suggestions/ideas I can make to
: my neighbors? I am surprised sliding glass doors are so poorly
: designed as some type of system to stabilize the weight against the
: ground could counteract this and create a "smooth and quiet" sliding
: experience. I have not found anything like this in my searches.

: Please help.

: Annoyed in Florida...

it's a recurrent, endless, wear-out problem! We have 6 such doors in the
house. PAM or other cooking spray works nicely (better than WD40) try it!


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On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 13:34:52 -0700, broke out their crayolas and scribbled:

All,

I was surprised to find little about this topic searching the internet,
but as a first floor condo owner my upstairs neighbors drive me crazy
with their opening and closing of their sliding glass door. My one
neighbor directly above me smokes and every 10 minutes I hear their
sliding glass door noise reverberating throughout my apartment. It
almost sounds like somone dragging a wooden crate across pavement just
above my head no matter where I am in the unit.

The harder/faster they open and close door the more noise it makes.
I've asked them to do it slower and the one upstairs neighbor replaced
the wheels on the door but it still makes that sound. I think the
sound I hear is the friction from the heavy weight of the door being
dragged. I also hear the unit above and to the right of my unit.

Are there any solutions to this? Any suggestions/ideas I can make to
my neighbors? I am surprised sliding glass doors are so poorly
designed as some type of system to stabilize the weight against the
ground could counteract this and create a "smooth and quiet" sliding
experience. I have not found anything like this in my searches.

Please help.

Annoyed in Florida...


Our sliding glass doors used to take two hands to slide open and shut and
were noisy as hell. The house was built in '59 and the rollers had wore
out a couple of times, but the track was the real problem. Replacement
roller kits are available at HD & Lowes. Remove the old rollers and take
them with you because there are different size and style of rollers
available. The last time I repaired the doors I drew a profile of the
bottom track the door rides on and was able to find a new piece of track.
The track being damaged was the problem with the rollers failing every
couple of years. once the track was replaced the doors can be slid open
with a finger and is almost silent. Finding the right aluminum track
extrusion is the main problem.

I lucked out and found a piece that matched what I had at a place
that salvages windows, doors, plumbing, what have you. Paid $8.00 for a
six foot piece a year ago, that was "new old stock" that I was able to
match to the profile of the track I already had on the floor. The place is
in Pinellas County Florida where I bought the track and I had to rummage
through the yard to find it. I was just lucky that day.

I believe the big box stores carry some extrusions for the brands of doors
that they carry or can still order it. Your condo is probibly newer
than '59 and they might have the profile you would need. They didn't have
the profile I needed though and were unable to ID or didn't know where to
look up the profile or didn't figure it was worth their time or were due
for break, you understand.... grumble-grumble-grumble

I understand this is your neighbors problem but maybe the offer to help
would yield better results. Many people move to condos because they are
not so handy with tools.

Good luck!



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Are there any solutions to this?


Yes. This is why I choose to live in a suburb. Take that, Al Gore.
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On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:03:42 +0000, Toller broke out their crayolas and
scribbled:


Any reference available on how to adjust doors? Mine haven't worked
properly for years (they bind...) but I don't know what they need.


Most of the adjusters I've seen are screws that are located at the
bottom edge or through a hole in the bottom edge of the door to move the
roller up and down by some fashion of a cam action. You usually have to
back off this cam screw to lower the door in order to pick up the door and
remove it from the track to replace the rollers. After replacing the
rollers you adjust the door height so the door can't be lifted up and
removed.

Hope this is of some help!
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On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:03:42 GMT, "Toller" wrote:


For a better gliding door, tracks and rollers should be thoroughly
cleaned. I use a small amount of "armour all" on the tracks, felt on
the door and rollers.

Some adjustment to the door, may also be in order.

Any reference available on how to adjust doors? Mine haven't worked
properly for years (they bind...) but I don't know what they need.


I haven't had to replace rollers, but to adjust them, a flat blade
screwdriver an inch above the bottom of the door, in each end of the
door, and iirc tighten to lift the door. It made a world of
difference when the house was about 13 years old. I guess the door
gets lower as the wheel wears, but maybe it was never as high as it
should have been.

I did for some reason, remove the moveable pane of both sliding glass
doors and all I had to do was lift the door up (another indication
that maybe it should have been higher, but I never made it higher to
keep it from being removeable. Instead I put a piece of brook stick
above the doors. The story is that this keeps a thief from lifting
the door out. It is certainly the simplest easiest way to keep the
door from being lifted out. BTW, when you do lift the doors out, they
are very heavy. You have to have developed techniques for doing
things yourself to not drop one, or have the bottom edge kick out and
get away from you. Thermopane is especially heavy I suppose, and wood
frames.


Whether the broom stick idea is the best idea or not, I'm pretty sure
a lot of people do it, so before trying to remove a slg, check above
to see if there is a piece of wood or something stuffed in there.


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On Thu, 01 Jun 2006 22:03:42 GMT, "Toller" wrote:

For a better gliding door, tracks and rollers should be thoroughly
cleaned. I use a small amount of "armour all" on the tracks, felt on
the door and rollers.

Some adjustment to the door, may also be in order.

Any reference available on how to adjust doors? Mine haven't worked
properly for years (they bind...) but I don't know what they need.


As mentioned, recessed screws located on side of the door at the
bottom. Turning the screw will move the rollers up and down.

I also check the track, some times they can become loose and heave up
causing a hump and the door binds as it slides on the track. The
track should be level. Shims can be used to adjust a track that is not
level.


Oren

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and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."
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