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Hiya Folks,
Well I did a boneheaded move last night. I'm in the process of painting a
sheetrocked room and in one of the inside corners, there was a crack along
the seam. I grabbed the wrong tube of caulk and now have a nice bright
white line running down the corner where the paint won't stick. I grabbed
the Silicone caulk that isn't paintable. How do I fix this? I won't be
able to remove the caulk so I'll need to go over it with something in hopes
that I can paint it afterwards. I was thinking of just going over it with
a paintable version but I'm also considering hitting it with a bit of
shellac and then painting. Any recommendations between these two options
or any others I'm not aware of?
Thanks much!
jlc


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"James "Cubby" Culbertson" wrote in message
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Hiya Folks,
Well I did a boneheaded move last night. I'm in the process of painting a
sheetrocked room and in one of the inside corners, there was a crack along
the seam. I grabbed the wrong tube of caulk and now have a nice bright
white line running down the corner where the paint won't stick. I
grabbed the Silicone caulk that isn't paintable. How do I fix this? I
won't be able to remove the caulk so I'll need to go over it with
something in hopes that I can paint it afterwards. I was thinking of
just going over it with a paintable version but I'm also considering
hitting it with a bit of shellac and then painting. Any recommendations
between these two options or any others I'm not aware of?
Thanks much!
jlc



Why can't you remove it?


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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:41:04 -0600, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
wrote:

Hiya Folks,
Well I did a boneheaded move last night. I'm in the process of painting a
sheetrocked room and in one of the inside corners, there was a crack along
the seam. I grabbed the wrong tube of caulk and now have a nice bright
white line running down the corner where the paint won't stick. I
grabbed
the Silicone caulk that isn't paintable. How do I fix this? I won't be
able to remove the caulk so I'll need to go over it with something in
hopes
that I can paint it afterwards. I was thinking of just going over it
with
a paintable version but I'm also considering hitting it with a bit of
shellac and then painting. Any recommendations between these two options
or any others I'm not aware of?
Thanks much!
jlc


NOTHING sticks to silicone caulk. You will have to find a way to
remove all traces of it.



Uh oh. I don't think I can remove it without sanding it all out. Then
I'm left with no texture on the wall and I'm no texturing expert so am
concerned about doing this. I won't be able to get the stuff tucked all the
way into the corner unless I want to cut it out and then I'm left with a
gap. Hmmm.....a latex caulk won't stick to it eh?
Cheers,
cc


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"Mys Terry" wrote in message
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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:41:04 -0600, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
wrote:

Hiya Folks,
Well I did a boneheaded move last night. I'm in the process of painting
a
sheetrocked room and in one of the inside corners, there was a crack
along
the seam. I grabbed the wrong tube of caulk and now have a nice bright
white line running down the corner where the paint won't stick. I
grabbed
the Silicone caulk that isn't paintable. How do I fix this? I won't be
able to remove the caulk so I'll need to go over it with something in
hopes
that I can paint it afterwards. I was thinking of just going over it
with
a paintable version but I'm also considering hitting it with a bit of
shellac and then painting. Any recommendations between these two
options
or any others I'm not aware of?
Thanks much!
jlc


NOTHING sticks to silicone caulk. You will have to find a way to
remove all traces of it.



Uh oh. I don't think I can remove it without sanding it all out. Then
I'm left with no texture on the wall and I'm no texturing expert so am
concerned about doing this. I won't be able to get the stuff tucked all
the way into the corner unless I want to cut it out and then I'm left with
a gap. Hmmm.....a latex caulk won't stick to it eh?
Cheers,
cc



Time out! You said it was a sheetrocked wall. When you say "textured", are
you referring to the normal texture of the sheetrock, or has some kind of
textured surface been applied on top of it?

And, as for sanding the silicone caulk, not very likely. You'll want to get
behind it with a razor blade, very slowly, and lift it off as best you can.


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I know this sounds awful and tedious, but I think the only way to solve this
is
as someone said "remove it all".
I guess I would use a box cutter blade and razor it out on the side of
losing
even some plaster edge. Remember, don't let remaining silicone destroy your
best effort to fix this now, so be thorough.
And if you are comfortable with mud, just replaster the corner seam.
It may require 3 coats, so be it. Let it dry completely.
Then sand it using a plaster sanding block. They work great and make a nice
finish
if you stick with a 120 grit. Just be warned, expect lots of fine dust.

It's unfortunate, but you painted yourself into a corner, so to speak.




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"les" wrote in message ...
I know this sounds awful and tedious, but I think the only way to solve
this
is
as someone said "remove it all".
I guess I would use a box cutter blade and razor it out on the side of
losing
even some plaster edge. Remember, don't let remaining silicone destroy
your
best effort to fix this now, so be thorough.
And if you are comfortable with mud, just replaster the corner seam.
It may require 3 coats, so be it. Let it dry completely.
Then sand it using a plaster sanding block. They work great and make a
nice
finish
if you stick with a 120 grit. Just be warned, expect lots of fine dust.

It's unfortunate, but you painted yourself into a corner, so to speak.



Another tip: I had to re-plaster a corner once. I used a credit card to
shape the wet plaster. Worked nicely, and I see no reason it wouldn't also
work with drywall mud.


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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:41:04 -0600, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
wrote:

Hiya Folks,
Well I did a boneheaded move last night. I'm in the process of painting a
sheetrocked room and in one of the inside corners, there was a crack along
the seam. I grabbed the wrong tube of caulk and now have a nice bright
white line running down the corner where the paint won't stick. I grabbed
the Silicone caulk that isn't paintable. How do I fix this? I won't be
able to remove the caulk so I'll need to go over it with something in hopes
that I can paint it afterwards. I was thinking of just going over it with
a paintable version but I'm also considering hitting it with a bit of
shellac and then painting. Any recommendations between these two options
or any others I'm not aware of?
Thanks much!
jlc


I would razor blade score a line around what silly-caulk is needing to
be removed and peel it off. Trying to avoid as much damage to the dry
wall as possible. Keep the damage as small as you can for easy repair.

Oren
"My doctor says I have a malformed public-duty gland
and a natural deficiency in moral fiber, and that I am therefore
excused from saving Universes."
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James "Cubby" Culbertson wrote:

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On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 11:41:04 -0600, "James \"Cubby\" Culbertson"
wrote:


Hiya Folks,
Well I did a boneheaded move last night. I'm in the process of painting a
sheetrocked room and in one of the inside corners, there was a crack along
the seam. I grabbed the wrong tube of caulk and now have a nice bright
white line running down the corner where the paint won't stick. I
grabbed
the Silicone caulk that isn't paintable. How do I fix this? I won't be
able to remove the caulk so I'll need to go over it with something in
hopes
that I can paint it afterwards. I was thinking of just going over it
with
a paintable version but I'm also considering hitting it with a bit of
shellac and then painting. Any recommendations between these two options
or any others I'm not aware of?
Thanks much!
jlc


NOTHING sticks to silicone caulk. You will have to find a way to
remove all traces of it.




Uh oh. I don't think I can remove it without sanding it all out. Then
I'm left with no texture on the wall and I'm no texturing expert so am
concerned about doing this. I won't be able to get the stuff tucked all the
way into the corner unless I want to cut it out and then I'm left with a
gap. Hmmm.....a latex caulk won't stick to it eh?
Cheers,
cc


You might end up with a slightly "rounder" corner, but you likely can
cover the silicone with a thin coat of paintable caulk - so that the
paintable bridges the silicone and hangs onto the old surface. There
certainly would be no stress that pulls the new caulk away from the wall.
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play with some original formula white killz primer or bin primer it
sticks to glass. and let us know. but you would get a better job with a
sharp utility knife and metal inside corner and the usual mud work if
you are drywalling anyway.

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Time out! You said it was a sheetrocked wall. When you say "textured", are
you referring to the normal texture of the sheetrock, or has some kind of
textured surface been applied on top of it?

And, as for sanding the silicone caulk, not very likely. You'll want to
get behind it with a razor blade, very slowly, and lift it off as best you
can.


It's a sheetrock wall with texture on it. Due to the texture, it was
nearly impossible with a razor blade. I did in fact use
my sander on very slow speed with a very fine grit and it lifted it right
out.
Cheers,
cc




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You can't really "sand it out". You have to cut it out with a razor
knife. I'll repeat this again so there is no room for abiguity:
NOTHING will stick to silicone. It either has to be removed, or hang a
quilt or something over it to hide it.

How about some nice wood trim?



The silicone stuck to the wall pretty good so I guess something sticks to it


Anyway, I sanded and it came out fine. Went slow with a very fine grit and
it just sort of peeled it off the wall.
I'll know now to check which tube of caulk I'm grabbing from the dark garage
next time!
Cheers,
cc


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"les" wrote in message ...
I know this sounds awful and tedious, but I think the only way to solve
this
is
as someone said "remove it all".
I guess I would use a box cutter blade and razor it out on the side of
losing
even some plaster edge. Remember, don't let remaining silicone destroy
your
best effort to fix this now, so be thorough.
And if you are comfortable with mud, just replaster the corner seam.
It may require 3 coats, so be it. Let it dry completely.
Then sand it using a plaster sanding block. They work great and make a
nice
finish
if you stick with a 120 grit. Just be warned, expect lots of fine dust.

It's unfortunate, but you painted yourself into a corner, so to speak.



I was able to get it all off without damaging the texture of the wall
fortunately. I'm no plasterer and would not have been able to duplicate
the texture that's on the walls but I appreciate the info. One of these
days I really need to learn that skill.
Cheers,
cc


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"James "Cubby" Culbertson" wrote in message
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Hiya Folks,
Well I did a boneheaded move last night. I'm in the process of painting a
sheetrocked room and in one of the inside corners, there was a crack along
the seam. I grabbed the wrong tube of caulk and now have a nice bright
white line running down the corner where the paint won't stick. I
grabbed the Silicone caulk that isn't paintable. How do I fix this? I
won't be able to remove the caulk so I'll need to go over it with
something in hopes that I can paint it afterwards. I was thinking of
just going over it with a paintable version but I'm also considering
hitting it with a bit of shellac and then painting. Any recommendations
between these two options or any others I'm not aware of?
Thanks much!
jlc



So I ended up just pulling the caulk out. Actually, I used a sander on
slow speed with a very fine grit.
I took it easy enough that I saved the texture on the wall so no mud work
was needed. I did use a pick in a few spots to get some of the caulk out.
I have learned my lesson: Watch which tube of caulk you grab in the garage
when in a hurry you idiot!

Cheers,
cc


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I was in the same boat I used a paintable Acrilic Latex- Silicone over
the silicone, so far its holding. Since it is inside it should work for
you, Mine is holding outside on new Anderson windows.

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