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Bradford White water heater preasure release issue
I have searched Google and looked through the manual of the unit and can
find not reason for the following... Several months ago a friend had a new Bradford White water heater installed. Today she noticed a slow but steady stream of water(which is hot) the width of a "drip" started from the pressure release that is plumbed through the wall to the outside. I looked at it and manually released the pressure using the rocker valve on top of the unit and was able to get a "gush" of water to flow. The drip continues albeit a bit more slowly. What would cause this? The unit was installed by a professional plumber referred by a home warranty. Anything to worry about? Thanks |
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Bradford White water heater preasure release issue
"GotBonus?" wrote in message news:s7pOf.196$5F1.56@fed1read08... I have searched Google and looked through the manual of the unit and can find not reason for the following... Several months ago a friend had a new Bradford White water heater installed. Today she noticed a slow but steady stream of water(which is hot) the width of a "drip" started from the pressure release that is plumbed through the wall to the outside. I looked at it and manually released the pressure using the rocker valve on top of the unit and was able to get a "gush" of water to flow. The drip continues albeit a bit more slowly. What would cause this? The unit was installed by a professional plumber referred by a home warranty. Anything to worry about? Most likely nothing to worry about for the weekend. It is just leaking hot water. Call the man back and have him replace the valve. It should not leak and is wasting water and the power to heat it. If steam was comming out the pipe, then it is probably running way too hot but you should notice that at the sinks in the house when the hot water is turned on. |
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Bradford White water heater preasure release issue
GotBonus? wrote:
I have searched Google and looked through the manual of the unit and can find not reason for the following... Several months ago a friend had a new Bradford White water heater installed. Today she noticed a slow but steady stream of water(which is hot) the width of a "drip" started from the pressure release that is plumbed through the wall to the outside. I looked at it and manually released the pressure using the rocker valve on top of the unit and was able to get a "gush" of water to flow. The drip continues albeit a bit more slowly. What would cause this? The unit was installed by a professional plumber referred by a home warranty. Anything to worry about? Thanks Pressure is too high. Could be that city Main pressure is very high or that thermal expansion is occurring. Or (not very likely) the brand new relief valve is faulty. There may have been a higher-rated (over-sized) relief installed on the old heater for that very reason. Doing so voids the warranty though. To get a decisive answer you need to actually measure the tank pressure, not guess at a cause. You can buy a gauge which will screw onto the hose thread on the tank drain valve. Or...call the plumber back. If you do, don't let him BS you. If it does turn out that Mains pressure is too high (over 80psi), a pressure reducing valve will need to be installed (or replaced, if there is one now) AND an expansion tank installed. I know it sounds like a lot for a little drip, but that's what it takes... Jim |
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Bradford White water heater preasure release issue
If you didn't have a problem with the previous water heater, it's most
likely a bad relief valve or it has some dirt stuck in it. You can try opening it and letting a gallon of water flow several times. If that doesn't do it, you can either replace the valve yourself, or call back the plumber, depending on what the warranty terms are. |
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Bradford White water heater preasure release issue
Bubba wrote:
On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:30:33 GMT, Speedy Jim wrote: SNIP Jim, You are just a bit off. You dont install a press red valve AND an expansion tank if the incoming pressure is over 80psi.\] Those 2 parts correct 2 completely different issues. The pressure reducing valve is almost self explainatory. It is used to reduce the incoming city water pressure to a more manageable pressure. The expansion tank is used when a back flow preventer is installed somewhere in the city water system. Sorry, have to beg to disagree. I fully understand the purpose of the PRV. However, the PRV creates a closed system, just the way a backflow device does. Yes, *some* PRV's incorporate a bypass check valve to bleed off pressure from expansion, but they quickly clog up or else the street pressure is too high to allow bypass. Good practice and, frequently, inspector requirement is to install an exp tank anytime a PRV is used. Jim |
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Bradford White water heater preasure release issue
GotBonus? wrote:
I have searched Google and looked through the manual of the unit and can find not reason for the following... Several months ago a friend had a new Bradford White water heater installed. Today she noticed a slow but steady stream of water(which is hot) the width of a "drip" started from the pressure release that is plumbed through the wall to the outside. I looked at it and manually released the pressure using the rocker valve on top of the unit and was able to get a "gush" of water to flow. The drip continues albeit a bit more slowly. What would cause this? The unit was installed by a professional plumber referred by a home warranty. Anything to worry about? Thanks Yeah, worry about the cost of heating all that water. Easy possible fix. 2) Turn the cold water inlet valve off. Open a hot water tap to relieve the pressure and then shut it. Manually operate the pressure relieve valve several times and let it snap shut. Turn the inlet valve on and check for a leak. 3) If it continues to leak, replace the pressure relief valve. And no, the plumber probably had nothing to do with it. If 3, it is just a failed valve. |
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Bubba wrote:
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 00:27:32 GMT, Speedy Jim wrote: Bubba wrote: On Sat, 04 Mar 2006 23:30:33 GMT, Speedy Jim wrote: SNIP Jim, You are just a bit off. You dont install a press red valve AND an expansion tank if the incoming pressure is over 80psi.\] Those 2 parts correct 2 completely different issues. The pressure reducing valve is almost self explainatory. It is used to reduce the incoming city water pressure to a more manageable pressure. The expansion tank is used when a back flow preventer is installed somewhere in the city water system. Sorry, have to beg to disagree. I fully understand the purpose of the PRV. However, the PRV creates a closed system, just the way a backflow device does. Yes, *some* PRV's incorporate a bypass check valve to bleed off pressure from expansion, but they quickly clog up or else the street pressure is too high to allow bypass. Good practice and, frequently, inspector requirement is to install an exp tank anytime a PRV is used. Jim Well, you seem to understand yet you dont seem to understand. You might want to read this: http://www.wattsreg.com/pdf/pg-prv.pdf BUT Lets just say you go to a customers home that has a newer water heater and the relief valve seems to leak once or twice everyday or every other day. You get there and the customer tells you: She has had a plumber there 4 times to fix the leak over a month period and its still leaking. The plumber has changed the relief valve twice, and the PRV twice and then gave up. Yes, I got this call. I looked at the water heater and relief valve. Nothing out of the ordinary. I put my pressure gauge on the sink in the basement by the water heater. It showed about 65 psi. Hmmm, nothing wrong yet. Now I turn the water heater temp up and within less than 5 mins, my pressure goes from 65psi to over 150 psi and starts leaking out the relief valve. The question is: Do I replace the PRV and install an expansion tank? Of course not. I installed and expansion tank and she was shocked that was all it took. I later found out from the water utility that this condo subdivision has water meters in a "pit" out in the front yard with backflow preventers in them (as required by code). Bubba Yes, that's what I would have done too. The expansion pressure buildup could have been caused by _either_ the utility backflow preventer OR the PRV. From: http://www.codecheck.com/pg15_16plumbing.html#waterpipe Max. unregulated pressure 80psi . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .[2903.3.1] {608.2} Expansion tank req'd if regulator not internal bypass type [2903.4] {608.3} ------------ "Water heater manufacturers and plumbing codes require the installation of an expansion control device if a backflow preventor, **pressure reducing valve** or check valve is installed in the domestic supply line." From: http://www.amtrol.com/thermxtrol.htm Jim |
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Bradford White water heater preasure release issue
Today every home should have a backflow preventer for safety.its
required here when selling a home. really a good idea |
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