OT There was a tv court show the other day in which a limousine
hired to take some girls to a wedding had a flat.

One of the defendants said it was dangerous to change the flat on the
expressway shoulder, and another def. said that the driver didn't know
how and didn't have the tools.

I'm wondering, how much harder would a stretch limo be? Say it was
over 20 feet. I know it weighs more, but it's all stretched out!
Leverage and all that. How much more strength would be needed to lift
the car, and doesn't the limo builder put a suitable jack in the trunk
of every one of them?

What sort of jack would that be? Could you buy one just as small and
just as strong at an auto parts store?

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I saw that episode. There is no difference. The same jack would be
used. That was just an excuse the limo company used to defend itself.

Who cares? Do you really plan on owning or driving a stretch limo? Don't
waste you precious time worrying about things that you will probably never
encounter. I would worry more about how to prevent the next Muzzie attack.
i.e., take them out before they get a chance to take you out.
MCG

"mm" wrote in message
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OT There was a tv court show the other day in which a limousine
hired to take some girls to a wedding had a flat.

One of the defendants said it was dangerous to change the flat on the
expressway shoulder, and another def. said that the driver didn't know
how and didn't have the tools.

I'm wondering, how much harder would a stretch limo be? Say it was
over 20 feet. I know it weighs more, but it's all stretched out!
Leverage and all that. How much more strength would be needed to lift
the car, and doesn't the limo builder put a suitable jack in the trunk
of every one of them?

What sort of jack would that be? Could you buy one just as small and
just as strong at an auto parts store?

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"mm" wrote in message
I'm wondering, how much harder would a stretch limo be? Say it was
over 20 feet. I know it weighs more, but it's all stretched out!
Leverage and all that. How much more strength would be needed to lift
the car, and doesn't the limo builder put a suitable jack in the trunk
of every one of them?

Any jack capable of lifting by the axle would probably do. Lifting the side
of a stretch may be problematic.

There are some highways that I'd risk damage to the car before getting out
for any reason, let alone to change a tire. It would be risking injury to
stop in places of high traffic and narrow (or non-existent) shoulder.

I disagree. Some people enjoy learning just to learn. That's what half
of college is, the first two years to be specific. By the way, "mm,"
you might want to try rec.autos.tech, they have people on there 24/7
answering questions.

"mm" wrote in message
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OT There was a tv court show the other day in which a limousine
hired to take some girls to a wedding had a flat.

One of the defendants said it was dangerous to change the flat on the
expressway shoulder, and another def. said that the driver didn't know
how and didn't have the tools.

I'm wondering, how much harder would a stretch limo be? Say it was
over 20 feet. I know it weighs more, but it's all stretched out!
Leverage and all that. How much more strength would be needed to lift
the car, and doesn't the limo builder put a suitable jack in the trunk
of every one of them?

What sort of jack would that be? Could you buy one just as small and
just as strong at an auto parts store?

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Length of the vehicle is not important but weight is. Since jacks are
sometimes marginal it seems that the extra weight of a stretched vehicle
could require a sturdier jack. Of course the manufacturer should take care
of that and if the operator knows he has no suitable jack he is responsible
for any consequences.

Years ago someone asked Tom McCahill why his very expensive car came with a
99 cent jack. He replied that was because the manufaturer could not find a
98 cent one. :-)

Don Young

I saw that case on TV too and thought it sounded like a bunch of BS.
The only rational thing I could think of would be that you would might
need a more substantial jack to lift the limo. But one would think
they would figure a way to get one into the car, since they have a
trunk. And if they don't have the capability to change a tire, that's
an incompetent limo company.

The limo company owner was a complete jerk. His position was the bride
and wedding party should have just waited with the car for them to send
another one. He kept saying "It was her problem. She chose not to
wait because she had to go to the wedding, that's not my fault" Well,
Duh! What the hell did he think any reasonable person would do.
They didn't even provide any assurance on how quickly another car would
arrive. And even if they did, at that point, I would have gotten into
cars of other folks following anyway, because who's going to take a
chance that the other car would arrive on time?

Oh, them fuzzy wuzzie muzzies are so fierce. Especially fuzzy wuzzie muzzies
who had no hair.

--

Christopher A. Young
You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
..

"Farmer's Daughter" wrote in message
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Who cares? Do you really plan on owning or driving a stretch limo? Don't
waste you precious time worrying about things that you will probably never
encounter. I would worry more about how to prevent the next Muzzie attack.
i.e., take them out before they get a chance to take you out.
MCG

"mm" wrote in message
...
OT There was a tv court show the other day in which a limousine
hired to take some girls to a wedding had a flat.

One of the defendants said it was dangerous to change the flat on the
expressway shoulder, and another def. said that the driver didn't know
how and didn't have the tools.

I'm wondering, how much harder would a stretch limo be? Say it was
over 20 feet. I know it weighs more, but it's all stretched out!
Leverage and all that. How much more strength would be needed to lift
the car, and doesn't the limo builder put a suitable jack in the trunk
of every one of them?

What sort of jack would that be? Could you buy one just as small and
just as strong at an auto parts store?

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Don Young wrote:
"mm" wrote in message
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OT There was a tv court show the other day in which a limousine
hired to take some girls to a wedding had a flat.

One of the defendants said it was dangerous to change the flat on the
expressway shoulder, and another def. said that the driver didn't know
how and didn't have the tools.

I'm wondering, how much harder would a stretch limo be? Say it was
over 20 feet. I know it weighs more, but it's all stretched out!
Leverage and all that. How much more strength would be needed to lift
the car, and doesn't the limo builder put a suitable jack in the trunk
of every one of them?

What sort of jack would that be? Could you buy one just as small and
just as strong at an auto parts store?

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me know if you have posted also.
Length of the vehicle is not important but weight is. Since jacks are
sometimes marginal it seems that the extra weight of a stretched vehicle
could require a sturdier jack. Of course the manufacturer should take care
of that and if the operator knows he has no suitable jack he is responsible
for any consequences.

Years ago someone asked Tom McCahill why his very expensive car came with a
99 cent jack. He replied that was because the manufaturer could not find a
98 cent one. :-)

Don Young

I would expect something more than the normal tire changing tools in
the way of the lug wrench though. They -have- to have some very heavy
duty axles, wheels, rims on them.
The right tools should still be there.

Harry K

Thanks for all the replies.


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On Wed, 8 Feb 2006 19:16:07 -0800, "Farmer's Daughter"
wrote:

Who cares? Do you really plan on owning or driving a stretch limo? Don't
waste you precious time worrying about things that you will probably never
encounter. I would worry more about how to prevent the next Muzzie attack.
i.e., take them out before they get a chance to take you out.
MCG

I think the odds are a lot better that I'll need to change the flat on
a limousine than that I'll be able to prevent any terrorist attack.

(BTW, don't need to own or drive. Once I was walking down the street,
and 4 or 5 people were gathered around the open hood of a police car.
I walked up and fixed it by the time I'd finished my last step. I saw
the blue light in the dark and figured out that the coil wire was
mostly out of its hole. Everyone was impressed.)


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OT There was a tv court show the other day in which a limousine
hired to take some girls to a wedding had a flat.

One of the defendants said it was dangerous to change the flat on the
expressway shoulder, and another def. said that the driver didn't know
how and didn't have the tools.


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.. Of course the manufacturer should take care
of that and if the operator knows he has no suitable jack he is responsible
for any consequences.

Interesting point. I wonder if they put on extra load tires on the
limos to make up for the extra weight, or if they just keep the stock
ones on. Perhaps maybe thats why the tire had a blowout in the first
place, because it was the wrong type.

"Mikepier" wrote in message

Interesting point. I wonder if they put on extra load tires on the
limos to make up for the extra weight, or if they just keep the stock
ones on.

The companies that build the limos are certified by the supplies. (Ford,
etc.) and have to comply with government regulations also.