Greetings all!

I have never had a spa in my life, and though I am researching the
matter now, I am a little concerned about making an underinformed
purchase. The brand/model my wife and I are thinking seriously about
is the Marquis Mirage; I have generally heard good things about Marquis
spas, and my brother purchased one from the same shop I am considering,
and he has had good things to say.

I happened across a post in this newsgroup, however, where someone
asked about how to fool the their Marquis spa thermostat into heating
the spa to over 104 degrees (they said
they wanted it up around 107). Having no previous spa experience, I
don't know what temp I want, or what temp humans can bear before their
flesh peels off, but I'd hate to get a spa only to find I can only heat
it up to "lukewarm." Is this a problem/limitation with Marquis, or
just a general limitation imposed on all spa manufacturers by the
safety czars?

Any advice/opinions on this matter, or Marquis spas generally, or spa
purchases generally, are greatly appreciated by the wife and I!

Chuck

"Commodore Joe Redcloud" wrote in message
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On 13 Jan 2006 14:35:56 -0800, "Chuck" wrote:

Greetings all!

I have never had a spa in my life, and though I am researching the
matter now, I am a little concerned about making an underinformed
purchase. The brand/model my wife and I are thinking seriously about
is the Marquis Mirage; I have generally heard good things about Marquis
spas, and my brother purchased one from the same shop I am considering,
and he has had good things to say.

I happened across a post in this newsgroup, however, where someone
asked about how to fool the their Marquis spa thermostat into heating
the spa to over 104 degrees (they said
they wanted it up around 107). Having no previous spa experience, I
don't know what temp I want, or what temp humans can bear before their
flesh peels off, but I'd hate to get a spa only to find I can only heat
it up to "lukewarm." Is this a problem/limitation with Marquis, or
just a general limitation imposed on all spa manufacturers by the
safety czars?

Any advice/opinions on this matter, or Marquis spas generally, or spa
purchases generally, are greatly appreciated by the wife and I!

Chuck

Temps above 104 are considered medically unsafe. 104 is hardly "lukewarm".
You
will find after owning a spa for a while that there is a noticable
difference
between one set at 102 and one set at 103. You may also find that you
prefer a
spa at 102 because you can stay in it longer. It's a matter of personal
preferences which you will develop over time and experience. I use my spa
more
in the winter than in the summer. In the summer, I set it at 102,or even
lower,
and in the colder months I set it at 103 or 104.

Took the words right out of my mouth. Sure, you can handle 110, but it's not
smart. No matter how healthy you are. Bottom line is: It's not really go for
you. ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE DRINKING!!! Most spa makers tell you not to drink
alcohol at all. You can. But the secret is: For every drink you have (beer,
whine, whiskey, whatever) drink a big glass of water. You want to have a
hangover before the morning? drink 5 or 6 beers while in an over-heated hot
tub.

One other thing: You want an efficient birth control? Get in a 105 degre hot
tub for 15 minutes......

if you're not soaking in a tub now, soaking in a spa for any great
length of time or temperature is a matter of planning for a comfort and
entertainment level. so the minifridge and tv proximity and remote
controls for tv and spa temp/bubbles/timer and radio will be critical
to you. the installation, heating of it, the humidity it throws off, a
heated towel bar, infrared lamp, decorative underwater LED lighting,
and a pump and heater that are not noisy. go rent a hotel room with one
or swap houses with your brother for the weekend and see how long you
are comfortable in it and take along an instant reading digital
thermometer. if this is to be outdoors, there are outdoor covers and
even more insulation to consider. don't swim or spa alone it says at
every hotel.

I have absolutely no knowledge of the Marquis brand of HOT TUBS...
sorry but somehow this old boy just can not refer to his HOT TUB as a
spa... just not me I guess...

However my wife purchased a HOT TUB in 1999 after a long cross country
trip in an antique car which honestly did not do her back much
good..(mine either for that matter)... BUT she just walked into Lowes
and bought one without researching anything...(not real smart but what
the heck)..

Anyhow it has 33 jets...and has been completely trouble free ..have
not spent money for anything except a new cover this summer)...so in
this case Cheap was just fine...

My only complaint is that I will "test fit" myself into the next HOT
TUB "we" buy... I am just a few inches too tall to enjoy the recliner
in our current HOT TUB.. And I fine that 33 jets are NOT ENOUGH

As for tempature ...I keep mine at 101 day in and day out 24/7...and
use it at least 5 times a week... I honestly would NOT want to get in
a HOT TUB above 104 degrees... way way too hot for this boy...

By advice... before you buy..
Get in... and check if you fit comfortabaly
get as many Jets as possible
get a good cover lifter ..(and a good cover)
Do not let size influence you... Mine is 7x8 foot plenty big
for both my wife and I BUT normally only one of us is in it
actually its bigger then I need...when I use it 90 percent of the
time I only uncover half the HOT TUB..

Best darn thing my wife ever purchased... I love the darn thing..

Bob G.


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On 13 Jan 2006 14:35:56 -0800, "Chuck" wrote:

Greetings all!

I have never had a spa in my life, and though I am researching the
matter now, I am a little concerned about making an underinformed
purchase. The brand/model my wife and I are thinking seriously about
is the Marquis Mirage; I have generally heard good things about Marquis
spas, and my brother purchased one from the same shop I am considering,
and he has had good things to say.

I happened across a post in this newsgroup, however, where someone
asked about how to fool the their Marquis spa thermostat into heating
the spa to over 104 degrees (they said
they wanted it up around 107). Having no previous spa experience, I
don't know what temp I want, or what temp humans can bear before their
flesh peels off, but I'd hate to get a spa only to find I can only heat
it up to "lukewarm." Is this a problem/limitation with Marquis, or
just a general limitation imposed on all spa manufacturers by the
safety czars?

Any advice/opinions on this matter, or Marquis spas generally, or spa
purchases generally, are greatly appreciated by the wife and I!

Chuck

I was just scanning the groups looking for Marquis Spa messages and
came across yours. I have owned a Marquis Reward for 2 1/2 years and
it has been broken for the last 16 months. Our 2003 model is defective
and the company has been unresponsive to our complaints. The dealer
does not return our phone calls. I have been in contact with other
Marquis owners who have experienced similar problems to the one we have
with the Euphoria and Reward models. I would strongly urge you to look
at another brand based on my experience with Marquis and their dealers.

I was just scanning the groups looking for Marquis Spa messages and
came across yours. I have owned a Marquis Reward for 2 1/2 years and
it has been broken for the last 16 months. Our 2003 model is defective
and the company has been unresponsive to our complaints. The dealer
does not return our phone calls. I have been in contact with other
Marquis owners who have experienced similar problems to the one we have
with the Euphoria and Reward models. I would strongly urge you to look
at another brand based on my experience with Marquis and their dealers.

As far as temp, I like mine at around 107 too. And I've been in many
commercial spas at
hotels, resorts, etc that were a lot hotter. Mine I can just get into
at 107. These other ones
were so hot you had to ease in a little at a time, which I think is too
hot. And I'm pretty sure
it is around 107, because I have a seperate floating thermometer in it
that reads temps around 75
accurately.

On 6 Feb 2006 04:10:05 -0800, wrote:

As far as temp, I like mine at around 107 too.

Wow. I thought 104F was too hot when I had a malfunctioning
thermostat in my Beachcomber. Even on the coldest, windiest, snowiest
days here (teens F), I don't like my spa more than about 102F. Is
this spa temperature preference related to a person's size/weight? Are
skinny/average people (e.g., me) more likely to prefer lower temps? I
would die at 107F, even in the winter; I don't want to sweat so much
that I dehydrate and have to get out in 15 minutes. I prefer to be
warm and comfortable and able to sit in the spa for an hour.

On Mon, 06 Feb 2006 13:41:44 GMT, KLS wrote:

On 6 Feb 2006 04:10:05 -0800, wrote:

As far as temp, I like mine at around 107 too.

Wow. I thought 104F was too hot when I had a malfunctioning
thermostat in my Beachcomber. Even on the coldest, windiest, snowiest
days here (teens F), I don't like my spa more than about 102F. Is
this spa temperature preference related to a person's size/weight? Are
skinny/average people (e.g., me) more likely to prefer lower temps? I
would die at 107F, even in the winter; I don't want to sweat so much
that I dehydrate and have to get out in 15 minutes. I prefer to be
warm and comfortable and able to sit in the spa for an hour.

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I'm with you 100 percent... mine is kept at 101 24/7 I could NOT
handle 107 degrees no way no how... BUT I do not normally stay in the
"hot tub" (I just am not comfortable using the term "spa"..) for more
then half an hour...jets will only run 20 min before the turn
off...then I relax for about 10 minutes and climb out...

107 is NOT for me...
6'1 230 pounds and too much of it has tuned to fat ...
Bob G,