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Just picked up a used house with a HUGE aquatic brand whirlpool / Jacuzzi
type tub.

Looks great, filled it up turned it on works fine, however after running
it
a few mins and
turning pump off the water is all brown. Previous owners said they never
used it.

I jumped online and found a solution of 3/4 cup bleach and a bit of non
foaming soap
run thru the tub may help.

I have run the tub well over 10 times now, and at least 5 times with the
bleach and soap
option (then after that run with clear water to remove any residue of
bleach
etc) yet still
when I run those jets for a few mins the tub water turns brown.

Is there anyway I can stop this from happening?? I keep fillin it up and
runnin it , even adding
the bleach and soap on a few cycles thinking its GOTTA get cleaner doing
this but so far nope,
just keeps coming out brown.

Wondered if anyone has experience in this and or how I might be able to
fix
it?

Thought about going and getting one of those long fishtank tube cleaner
things (looks like a big
baby bottle cleaner on flexible metal rod) and going into the lines with
that to see if i could clean
them out that way??

Just curious what you all might suggest I try next, tub looks amazing and
has LOTS of room and power
just can't seem to get that brown water stuff to stop once you turn jets
on
even after many repeated refills
of the tub including at least 5 of the bleach cycle fill and runs of it,
still coming out brown....

Thanks for any info or advice, i can't even figure out where the pumps
are,
they must be under the house
cuz the tub is all encased in tile,

Bill



Tell your wife to shower before she gets in....


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Just picked up a used house with a HUGE aquatic brand whirlpool / Jacuzzi
type tub.

Looks great, filled it up turned it on works fine, however after running it
a few mins and
turning pump off the water is all brown. Previous owners said they never
used it.

I jumped online and found a solution of 3/4 cup bleach and a bit of non
foaming soap
run thru the tub may help.

I have run the tub well over 10 times now, and at least 5 times with the
bleach and soap
option (then after that run with clear water to remove any residue of bleach
etc) yet still
when I run those jets for a few mins the tub water turns brown.

Is there anyway I can stop this from happening?? I keep fillin it up and
runnin it , even adding
the bleach and soap on a few cycles thinking its GOTTA get cleaner doing
this but so far nope,
just keeps coming out brown.

Wondered if anyone has experience in this and or how I might be able to fix
it?

Thought about going and getting one of those long fishtank tube cleaner
things (looks like a big
baby bottle cleaner on flexible metal rod) and going into the lines with
that to see if i could clean
them out that way??

Just curious what you all might suggest I try next, tub looks amazing and
has LOTS of room and power
just can't seem to get that brown water stuff to stop once you turn jets on
even after many repeated refills
of the tub including at least 5 of the bleach cycle fill and runs of it,
still coming out brown....

Thanks for any info or advice, i can't even figure out where the pumps are,
they must be under the house
cuz the tub is all encased in tile,

Bill


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Code generally requires the pump to be accessible for maintenance.

If you carefully check the the tiles, you may find that the grout
around one or two of them is softer than the rest. That's because it's
not grout; it's sanded caulk. Cut these tiles out with box knife and
that's your access. They may even be on hinges. Our builder mounted
them on magnets.

Before trying again to remove the brown stuff, it might be a good idea
to find out what it is. Collect a sample, look at the particles. Is
it silt? Flakes of rust? Does it smell?

My first guess would have been to use clorox to kill bacteria, mold,
and mildew, then flush, but that obviously didn't work. It'd be nice
to know what the heck you're trying to remove before just dumping
random chemicals in the tub.


Bill wrote:
Just picked up a used house with a HUGE aquatic brand whirlpool / Jacuzzi
type tub.

Looks great, filled it up turned it on works fine, however after running it
a few mins and
turning pump off the water is all brown. Previous owners said they never
used it.

I jumped online and found a solution of 3/4 cup bleach and a bit of non
foaming soap
run thru the tub may help.

I have run the tub well over 10 times now, and at least 5 times with the
bleach and soap
option (then after that run with clear water to remove any residue of bleach
etc) yet still
when I run those jets for a few mins the tub water turns brown.

Is there anyway I can stop this from happening?? I keep fillin it up and
runnin it , even adding
the bleach and soap on a few cycles thinking its GOTTA get cleaner doing
this but so far nope,
just keeps coming out brown.

Wondered if anyone has experience in this and or how I might be able to fix
it?

Thought about going and getting one of those long fishtank tube cleaner
things (looks like a big
baby bottle cleaner on flexible metal rod) and going into the lines with
that to see if i could clean
them out that way??

Just curious what you all might suggest I try next, tub looks amazing and
has LOTS of room and power
just can't seem to get that brown water stuff to stop once you turn jets on
even after many repeated refills
of the tub including at least 5 of the bleach cycle fill and runs of it,
still coming out brown....

Thanks for any info or advice, i can't even figure out where the pumps are,
they must be under the house
cuz the tub is all encased in tile,

Bill


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I'm still trying to clean *mine*.
My crud is waxy brown/black chunks, a local spa place recommended some
"super bleach", a bleach powder that you're supposed to use at a 1
teaspoon-to-several-hundred-gallons ratio, its used to clean spas in
between water changes.

I haven't had a chance to use it yet. It has multiple warnings on it
about story in a dry place, else it can catch on fire. Its supposed to
be potent stuff, I joked with the spa folks about using 1/2 the little
bottle at a time, and they almost didn't sell it to me.

Dave

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as for access, if you have a room that shares a wall with the tub,
check the wall in that room for removable access panels too. Our tub
has such a pump and it's accessed from the next room through a hole in
the wall that's covered with drywall and molding.



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Jacuzzi had a settlement over uncleanable whirlpools. It was a dumb deal.
Basically with new instructions and recommended chemicals. You might want
to check their site. I think it was a liquid automatic dishwasher
detergent. Or a commerically sold whirpool formular was also recommended.


"Bill" wrote in message
...
Just picked up a used house with a HUGE aquatic brand whirlpool / Jacuzzi
type tub.

Looks great, filled it up turned it on works fine, however after running
it
a few mins and
turning pump off the water is all brown. Previous owners said they never
used it.

I jumped online and found a solution of 3/4 cup bleach and a bit of non
foaming soap
run thru the tub may help.

I have run the tub well over 10 times now, and at least 5 times with the
bleach and soap
option (then after that run with clear water to remove any residue of
bleach
etc) yet still
when I run those jets for a few mins the tub water turns brown.

Is there anyway I can stop this from happening?? I keep fillin it up and
runnin it , even adding
the bleach and soap on a few cycles thinking its GOTTA get cleaner doing
this but so far nope,
just keeps coming out brown.

Wondered if anyone has experience in this and or how I might be able to
fix
it?

Thought about going and getting one of those long fishtank tube cleaner
things (looks like a big
baby bottle cleaner on flexible metal rod) and going into the lines with
that to see if i could clean
them out that way??

Just curious what you all might suggest I try next, tub looks amazing and
has LOTS of room and power
just can't seem to get that brown water stuff to stop once you turn jets
on
even after many repeated refills
of the tub including at least 5 of the bleach cycle fill and runs of it,
still coming out brown....

Thanks for any info or advice, i can't even figure out where the pumps
are,
they must be under the house
cuz the tub is all encased in tile,

Bill




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"Oscar_Lives" wrote in message
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"Bill" wrote in message
...
Just picked up a used house with a HUGE aquatic brand whirlpool /

Jacuzzi
type tub.

Looks great, filled it up turned it on works fine, however after running
it
a few mins and
turning pump off the water is all brown. Previous owners said they

never
used it.

I jumped online and found a solution of 3/4 cup bleach and a bit of non
foaming soap
run thru the tub may help.

I have run the tub well over 10 times now, and at least 5 times with the
bleach and soap
option (then after that run with clear water to remove any residue of
bleach
etc) yet still
when I run those jets for a few mins the tub water turns brown.

Is there anyway I can stop this from happening?? I keep fillin it up and
runnin it , even adding
the bleach and soap on a few cycles thinking its GOTTA get cleaner doing
this but so far nope,
just keeps coming out brown.

Wondered if anyone has experience in this and or how I might be able to
fix
it?

Thought about going and getting one of those long fishtank tube cleaner
things (looks like a big
baby bottle cleaner on flexible metal rod) and going into the lines with
that to see if i could clean
them out that way??

Just curious what you all might suggest I try next, tub looks amazing

and
has LOTS of room and power
just can't seem to get that brown water stuff to stop once you turn jets
on
even after many repeated refills
of the tub including at least 5 of the bleach cycle fill and runs of it,
still coming out brown....

Thanks for any info or advice, i can't even figure out where the pumps
are,
they must be under the house
cuz the tub is all encased in tile,

Bill


Did not use it.,,,,,,,, YEA RIGHT....

I installed one just recently. Any commerical bath salt product that has
glycern in it turns my water brown. Does not matter if I shower first or
not.

I use a half gallon of bleach with the tub water over the jets enough to
prevent splashing. Right after every 3 session. I pour the bleach in while
the water is still warm and let run for 3-5 minutes, then drain.

I make my own bath salts now. Epson Salt from the Grocery store, a bit of
baking soda and less that an cap full of gylcern. Once in awhile the bubbles
turn a bit brown.

No one ever mentioned that these were so hard to clean. Would not have
mattered for me, I still would have installed it.


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Jacuzzi had a settlement over uncleanable whirlpools. It was a dumb deal.
Basically with new instructions and recommended chemicals. You might want
to check their site. I think it was a liquid automatic dishwasher
detergent. Or a commerically sold whirpool formular was also recommended.




MAXX recommends dishwashing detergent as the primary cleaner also.



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Bill wrote:

Just picked up a used house with a HUGE aquatic brand whirlpool / Jacuzzi
type tub.

Looks great, filled it up turned it on works fine, however after running it
a few mins and
turning pump off the water is all brown. Previous owners said they never
used it.

I jumped online and found a solution of 3/4 cup bleach and a bit of non
foaming soap
run thru the tub may help.

I have run the tub well over 10 times now, and at least 5 times with the
bleach and soap
option (then after that run with clear water to remove any residue of bleach
etc) yet still
when I run those jets for a few mins the tub water turns brown.


Maybe it's rust, in which case the bleach would just make it worse.

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I had that exact thought...

Bill, are you on public water or well water? Do you know of any rust
problems with your other fixtures in your house? chlorine bleach will
definitely turn water with dissolved iron instantly brown with rust,
that may be what you're seeing.



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Ahh I didn't know this,,,

I AM on well water, haven't noticed any brown in sinks or anything with full
fills, even tub full fill is clear (until i run the pumps) but then again
ive done like 5 cycles of bleach that could be still sitting in the lines, I
was told amonia is something to try, was just seeing the lines looked a bit
brownish at openings and when turned on water goes brown so figured lines
were full of gunk etc, but it could be the bleach/well water combo...

I think I am gonna try some amonia in it and possibly some of that store
stuff specifically for cleaning whirlpool tubs

http://www.ariesspas.com/extras%20st...swirlaway.html

btw i did find the access area, its actually on the shared wall but
different room (utility room) in the back of a closet there is a removable
panel, i doubt I ever would have found that, the way its positioned there is
a shelf above it so you have to get down on hands and look inward to see
panel even...but at least i know where it is now...

Bill

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I had that exact thought...

Bill, are you on public water or well water? Do you know of any rust
problems with your other fixtures in your house? chlorine bleach will
definitely turn water with dissolved iron instantly brown with rust,
that may be what you're seeing.



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Make absolutely sure you've flushed the bleach out before using
ammonia! Ammonia + chlorine can have a few very bad effects:

depending on the ratio of ammonia and bleach you could get:

chlorine gas - toxic and painful

nitrogen trichloride - toxic, explosive

hydrazine - toxic, also a component of rocket fuel (note this reaction
also creates heat, sometimes enough to ignite the mixture)



A quick and interesting test to see if you have iron in your water is
to put some chlorine bleach (only works with chlorine bleach) in the
toilet bowl or in any standing water from the tap - it'll quickly turn
brown from dissolved iron turning to rust. Though, if you don't have
rust stains on your sinks and tubs, it's probably not present in your
water.

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