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Break-even point for home electric generator powered bynatural...
Maybe 2.00$ a kilowatt as an example only, but possibly true for some .
The Generac air cooled HD is not designed for prime continous power, Any 3600rpm units life is 3000-5000 hrs or 4 months or so, how it is loaded is important. Im sure Generac has other prime power units, but the cost. Figure only 1/3rd of the ng burned is converted to electricity, heat and friction make up th other 2/3 . An 1800 rpm unit lasts 4 times as long 10-20000 hrs. A 900 rpm Lister over 100000 hrs, that is prime power. A cheap Honda or Yamaha inverter type with load dependant rpm could theoreticly last 100,000 hrs. if you kept rpm under 900. The 3000w unit can do that developing only 1-200 watts. For longest life get a Yamaha or Honda inverter converted to Ng and keep rpms low. 10,000-12,000 hrs off them is common at medium 50% load , but at 900 rpm 100000 is possible. Yamaha is heard to have superior electronics, but I wonder if it isnt really that most people buy the 1600-2000 watts units and just overload them and never consider surge load, effectively people just abuse them. |
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Break-even point for home electric generator powered by natural...
Did the math on this a while back when these things just came to market...
I found that i'd need to sell the power back to the utility and run the generator all the time to break even. Then what I'd get is free heat from the generator exhaust. Some electric utilities (because of regulations) do have to buy back power--your meter just runs backwards and you get a check. You also need a source of cheap fuel! (Good luck with that, now...) Check out microturbines; I believe a company called "capstone turbine" makes them. A fun project might be to build one yourself (Tesla turbine). Don't know about efficiency as a gas turbine, but people still build (and even use) these. It's kind of a hobby thing; google TEBA (Tesla engine builders ass'n, or something.) m Ransley wrote: Maybe 2.00$ a kilowatt as an example only, but possibly true for some . The Generac air cooled HD is not designed for prime continous power, Any 3600rpm units life is 3000-5000 hrs or 4 months or so, how it is loaded is important. Im sure Generac has other prime power units, but the cost. Figure only 1/3rd of the ng burned is converted to electricity, heat and friction make up th other 2/3 . An 1800 rpm unit lasts 4 times as long 10-20000 hrs. A 900 rpm Lister over 100000 hrs, that is prime power. A cheap Honda or Yamaha inverter type with load dependant rpm could theoreticly last 100,000 hrs. if you kept rpm under 900. The 3000w unit can do that developing only 1-200 watts. For longest life get a Yamaha or Honda inverter converted to Ng and keep rpms low. 10,000-12,000 hrs off them is common at medium 50% load , but at 900 rpm 100000 is possible. Yamaha is heard to have superior electronics, but I wonder if it isnt really that most people buy the 1600-2000 watts units and just overload them and never consider surge load, effectively people just abuse them. |
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Break-even point for home electric generator powered bynatural...
You can`t break , the utility here buys back at 1/10 of what they
charge, then with initial cost, maintenance,operating cost and depreciation you can never win. Unless you can dam a river. |
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Break-even point for home electric generator powered bynatural...
"m Ransley" wrote in message ... You can`t break , the utility here buys back at 1/10 of what they charge, then with initial cost, maintenance,operating cost and depreciation you can never win. Unless you can dam a river. Some utilities have to pay MORE than they charge you, at least for solar generated power. Would they also have to for something like this? Bob |
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