I'm starting to remove some old wallpaper in my bathroom of the condo I
bought several years ago. The age of the wallpaper is a mystery to me.
It apears to be an aluminum foil type of wallpaper. Quite shiney.

As I start to remove it, it appears that the paper is in two (or more) layers.
Not one wallpaper on top of another, but two layers for this wallpaper. In
other words the wallpaper is separating as I try to remove it. The top layer
is coming off fairly easily, but the bottom layer is firmly glued to the underlying
painted wall.

Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer or can
I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a steamer (which I own)
the best tool to use? I removed a similar wallpaper from the kitchen when I
bought the condo and it came off quite easily, but there was another layer of
wallpaper under it, which needed a steamer to remove.

No email please.

"rvfulltime (was xenman)" wrote in
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I'm starting to remove some old wallpaper in my bathroom of the condo
I bought several years ago. The age of the wallpaper is a mystery to
me. It apears to be an aluminum foil type of wallpaper. Quite shiney.

As I start to remove it, it appears that the paper is in two (or more)
layers. Not one wallpaper on top of another, but two layers for this
wallpaper. In other words the wallpaper is separating as I try to
remove it. The top layer is coming off fairly easily, but the bottom
layer is firmly glued to the underlying painted wall.

Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer
or can I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a
steamer (which I own) the best tool to use? I removed a similar
wallpaper from the kitchen when I bought the condo and it came off
quite easily, but there was another layer of wallpaper under it, which
needed a steamer to remove.

No email please.


Let me guess... Built in the early 70's. The walls probably aren't
sized. Have fun with the steamer, but get ready to fill in some gouges
from the wallpaper removal.

You've got to get it down to drywall, but DON'T scrape off all of the
paper face of the drywall (yes, I've done it....)

Brad

There is no great answer to the question. I've done it every way... Steamed
and scraped it off the wall in postage stamp sized pieces, painted over it,
etc. Personally, if I was fixing a home to sell it, I'd paint over the
paper. If I was planning on keeping the house, I'd take the paper down.

The problem with painting over it is that eventually, the paper will start
to release in small sections and you'll have visible bubbles on the wall.
Even better, new paint seems to be a *great* wallpaper adhesive release
agent. As soon as you paint over it, either you begin to notice bubbles you
hadn't noticed before, or new bubbles will form or both. After that, the
painted wallpaper is even harder to remove, because the layer of paint over
it makes it that much more water and steam proof...

KB


"rvfulltime (was xenman)" wrote in message
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I'm starting to remove some old wallpaper in my bathroom of the condo I
bought several years ago. The age of the wallpaper is a mystery to me.
It apears to be an aluminum foil type of wallpaper. Quite shiney.

As I start to remove it, it appears that the paper is in two (or more)
layers.
Not one wallpaper on top of another, but two layers for this wallpaper.
In
other words the wallpaper is separating as I try to remove it. The top
layer
is coming off fairly easily, but the bottom layer is firmly glued to the
underlying
painted wall.

Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer or
can
I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a steamer
(which I own)
the best tool to use? I removed a similar wallpaper from the kitchen
when I
bought the condo and it came off quite easily, but there was another layer
of
wallpaper under it, which needed a steamer to remove.

No email please.

Take some very coarse sandpaper and sand the wallpaper now get a
garden sprayer and some paper remover called DIFF. fill the sprayer
add a little diff and spray wait a bit and spray again repeat many
times. The paper should slide off the wall, hopefully before you
soften the drywall & mud. Repair walls as needed before painting or
papering again. The idea is to cut the waterproof layer so the water
you spray can penetrate and loosen the glue. If you have to scrape
over and over it's not wet enough yet. Close the door turn on the
steamy shower.

Tom







On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:21:55 -0700, "rvfulltime (was xenman)"
wrote:

I'm starting to remove some old wallpaper in my bathroom of the condo I
bought several years ago. The age of the wallpaper is a mystery to me.
It apears to be an aluminum foil type of wallpaper. Quite shiney.

As I start to remove it, it appears that the paper is in two (or more) layers.
Not one wallpaper on top of another, but two layers for this wallpaper. In
other words the wallpaper is separating as I try to remove it. The top layer
is coming off fairly easily, but the bottom layer is firmly glued to the underlying
painted wall.

Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer or can
I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a steamer (which I own)
the best tool to use? I removed a similar wallpaper from the kitchen when I
bought the condo and it came off quite easily, but there was another layer of
wallpaper under it, which needed a steamer to remove.

No email please.

rvfulltime (was xenman) wrote:

Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer or can
I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a steamer (which I own)
the best tool to use? I removed a similar wallpaper from the kitchen when I
bought the condo and it came off quite easily, but there was another layer of
wallpaper under it, which needed a steamer to remove.

Yes you need to remove the paper. That is the adhesive part. Usually
the first layer comes off easy but it leaves behind the adhesive. If
you do not remove it and decide to paint over it, it will bubble over
time.

rvfulltime (was xenman) wrote:
I'm starting to remove some old wallpaper in my bathroom of the condo I
bought several years ago. The age of the wallpaper is a mystery to me.
It apears to be an aluminum foil type of wallpaper. Quite shiney.

As I start to remove it, it appears that the paper is in two (or more) layers.
Not one wallpaper on top of another, but two layers for this wallpaper. In
other words the wallpaper is separating as I try to remove it. The top layer
is coming off fairly easily, but the bottom layer is firmly glued to the underlying
painted wall.

Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer or can
I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a steamer (which I own)
the best tool to use? I removed a similar wallpaper from the kitchen when I
bought the condo and it came off quite easily, but there was another layer of
wallpaper under it, which needed a steamer to remove.

No email please.

Peel off the foil, spray the remaining paper with warm water, let it
soak, spray again, soak again (15-30 min). Scrape gently. Water
softens most wallpaper paste very nicely. The number of layers of
wallpaper matters very little, as it is just the task of getting water
into the paste to soften it. When the paper is gone, be sure to wash
remaining paste, as it often shows texture if painted over. I would not
paint over half-removed wallpaper - it would look like crap, be rough
and irregular and impossible to remove.

I've been that route before with other wall paper, but due to the nature
of the paper and how it was applied, I don't think that solution will work.

Thanks anyway.


On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 21:39:53 -0500, Trekking Tom wrote:

Take some very coarse sandpaper and sand the wallpaper now get a
garden sprayer and some paper remover called DIFF. fill the sprayer
add a little diff and spray wait a bit and spray again repeat many
times. The paper should slide off the wall, hopefully before you
soften the drywall & mud. Repair walls as needed before painting or
papering again. The idea is to cut the waterproof layer so the water
you spray can penetrate and loosen the glue. If you have to scrape
over and over it's not wet enough yet. Close the door turn on the
steamy shower.

Tom







On Sun, 23 Oct 2005 17:21:55 -0700, "rvfulltime (was xenman)"
wrote:

I'm starting to remove some old wallpaper in my bathroom of the condo I
bought several years ago. The age of the wallpaper is a mystery to me.
It apears to be an aluminum foil type of wallpaper. Quite shiney.

As I start to remove it, it appears that the paper is in two (or more) layers.
Not one wallpaper on top of another, but two layers for this wallpaper. In
other words the wallpaper is separating as I try to remove it. The top layer
is coming off fairly easily, but the bottom layer is firmly glued to the underlying
painted wall.

Here's my question... Do I need to remove that underlying paper layer or can
I paint right over the top of it? If I need to remove it, is a steamer (which I own)
the best tool to use? I removed a similar wallpaper from the kitchen when I
bought the condo and it came off quite easily, but there was another layer of
wallpaper under it, which needed a steamer to remove.

No email please.