I have a recessed light that I want to change to a chandelier. There is
a large "cup" in the ceiling that holds an indoor flood light
recepticle which is suspended within the cup by springs. I bought the
chandelier which has a metal mounting "strap" that is supposed to
attach to an outlet box in the ceiling by machine screws. Of course the
outlet box in this case does not exist. Is there any type of insert
that can be installed in the existing cup that will allow me to attach
an outlet box or something similar that the mounting strap can be
attached to securely?

Thanks in advance,
Ben

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I have a recessed light that I want to change to a chandelier. There is
a large "cup" in the ceiling that holds an indoor flood light
recepticle which is suspended within the cup by springs. I bought the
chandelier which has a metal mounting "strap" that is supposed to
attach to an outlet box in the ceiling by machine screws. Of course the
outlet box in this case does not exist. Is there any type of insert
that can be installed in the existing cup that will allow me to attach
an outlet box or something similar that the mounting strap can be
attached to securely?


I think your best plan of attack will be to remove the can light housing
(large inverted cup) altogether, and attach a new ceiling fixture outlet box
securely to the joists. If the can housing was a remodel, there are 3 or 4
spring steel clips around the perimeter that are holding the housing in
place.

Ben -

Nope. Can lights are generally mounted using their own "straps", and
often times are held in place with little more than a cable staple or
2. Don't attempt to hang anything from it.

But, the good news is that can lights are mounted between joists, and
are also easily disassmbled from the outside in.

The other good news is that they make ceiling boxes for ceiling fans
that are ideal for your situation - there is a bolt in the middle of
the box that you turn, which causes it's arms to extend out and wedge
into the joists. Google around for ceiling fan box, or something
similar.

Take your time.... remove the old fixture, install the new ceiling box,
and the most difficult part will probably be patching the sheet rock
around the box.

Just to add to the others, once you've secured a fan or bar box to the
joists. you can buy a small medallion to cover the large hole
"jonesbf" wrote in message
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I have a recessed light that I want to change to a chandelier. There is
a large "cup" in the ceiling that holds an indoor flood light
recepticle which is suspended within the cup by springs. I bought the
chandelier which has a metal mounting "strap" that is supposed to
attach to an outlet box in the ceiling by machine screws. Of course the
outlet box in this case does not exist. Is there any type of insert
that can be installed in the existing cup that will allow me to attach
an outlet box or something similar that the mounting strap can be
attached to securely?

Thanks in advance,
Ben

Thanks to everyone who replied. This is exactly what I wanted to know!