So before I started on my brick cleaning adventure (~800 sq. ft. of painted
brick), I did as much research as I could. Sandblasting was quickly ruled
out. I've seen the long-term damage it can cause with my own eyes.
Ultimately, I settled on using the masonry stripper/power washer
combination.

Had I known that there would be 60-80 years of paint underneath that shiny
top coat, I might have rethought the whole thing (okay, nahh I would have
done it anyway). Actually, the area that I originally used as a test was
only about 2 coats deep and it was the same color. The "Techinicolor
Nightmare" didn't make itself apparent until I was too far in to turn back.

Three 5Gal. buckets of Prosoco Heavy Duty Stripper and 1 5Gal. bucket of
Prosoco Fast-Acting Stripper (Methylene Chloride) later, I've gotten a lot
of paint off. Quite a lot, in fact (the better part of 6 different colors
in some areas - this is an old corner commercial building). Unfortunately,
not all a lot. The remaining patches of paint are *ON THERE*. I've gotten a
bit more abrasive than I'd like to have with the pressure washer but still
the remaining paint persists. Multiple applications of methylene chloride
don't seem to phase it. There is too much left to manually scrape off. It's
so well bonded to the brick face that I'd likely do quite a bit of damage
with manual abrasion (scraper) anyway.

Suggestions? I'm open to just about anything at this point. I've even
considered calling it a loss and heading down to the local friendly
sandblaster rental shop. I hope it doesn't come to that but if that's what
I have to do....

P.S. Losing mortar is not an issue...the whole thing needs pointing anyway.

-BB

Sherwin Williams carries or will order Detritch stone cleaning products.
Probably the best in the country for all types of brick and stone
restoration products.

Chemical strippers will never get all the paint out of little pours in the
brick. I'm not sure sandblasting will either. If you are not worried about
re-pointing then I would think sandblasting would be the way to go. Sounds
like you invested a lot of $$$ already in strippers and time.

Curious - What type of long term problems have you seen by sandblasting?

"Belial Black" wrote in message
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So before I started on my brick cleaning adventure (~800 sq. ft. of
painted
brick), I did as much research as I could. Sandblasting was quickly ruled
out. I've seen the long-term damage it can cause with my own eyes.
Ultimately, I settled on using the masonry stripper/power washer
combination.

Had I known that there would be 60-80 years of paint underneath that shiny
top coat, I might have rethought the whole thing (okay, nahh I would have
done it anyway). Actually, the area that I originally used as a test was
only about 2 coats deep and it was the same color. The "Techinicolor
Nightmare" didn't make itself apparent until I was too far in to turn
back.

Three 5Gal. buckets of Prosoco Heavy Duty Stripper and 1 5Gal. bucket of
Prosoco Fast-Acting Stripper (Methylene Chloride) later, I've gotten a lot
of paint off. Quite a lot, in fact (the better part of 6 different colors
in some areas - this is an old corner commercial building). Unfortunately,
not all a lot. The remaining patches of paint are *ON THERE*. I've gotten
a
bit more abrasive than I'd like to have with the pressure washer but still
the remaining paint persists. Multiple applications of methylene chloride
don't seem to phase it. There is too much left to manually scrape off.
It's
so well bonded to the brick face that I'd likely do quite a bit of damage
with manual abrasion (scraper) anyway.

Suggestions? I'm open to just about anything at this point. I've even
considered calling it a loss and heading down to the local friendly
sandblaster rental shop. I hope it doesn't come to that but if that's what
I have to do....

P.S. Losing mortar is not an issue...the whole thing needs pointing
anyway.

-BB

Curious - What type of long term problems have you seen by sandblasting?

Well, for starters, two sections of the wall on the building in question had
been sandblasted 20-30 years ago during the last 'renovation'. Both
sections of wall now need to be rebuilt as they've sustained enough water
damage that they crumble to the touch. Though I'm not a mason or scientist,
I'm sure that the amount of degradation after sandblasting the hard face
off of brick depends largely on the composition of the brick in question.
The bricks I'm dealing with are about 120 years old.

Many other homes in the neighborhood have gone the sandblasting route and I
can spot their pitted rough surface from half a block away. To the
untrained eye, the brick looks as though it's been nicely cleaned &
maintained. Unfortunately, after a good rain I can see the water that those
bricks absorb and I know that they'll have some major problems to deal with
20 years out.

Thats what I figured. It would be especially bad if you have a freeze thaw
cycle. If souther you would be better off. How about follow up with a
sealer?

"Belial Black" wrote in message
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Curious - What type of long term problems have you seen by
sandblasting?

Well, for starters, two sections of the wall on the building in question
had
been sandblasted 20-30 years ago during the last 'renovation'. Both
sections of wall now need to be rebuilt as they've sustained enough water
damage that they crumble to the touch. Though I'm not a mason or
scientist,
I'm sure that the amount of degradation after sandblasting the hard face
off of brick depends largely on the composition of the brick in question.
The bricks I'm dealing with are about 120 years old.

Many other homes in the neighborhood have gone the sandblasting route and
I
can spot their pitted rough surface from half a block away. To the
untrained eye, the brick looks as though it's been nicely cleaned &
maintained. Unfortunately, after a good rain I can see the water that
those
bricks absorb and I know that they'll have some major problems to deal
with
20 years out.

Suggestions? I'm open to just about anything at this point. I've even
considered calling it a loss and heading down to the local friendly
sandblaster rental shop. I hope it doesn't come to that but if that's what
I have to do....

P.S. Losing mortar is not an issue...the whole thing needs pointing anyway.

Get some sand mixed with brick-red paint (two shades, not well mixed),
and paint the damn things again, Then grind out a little bit of the
grout, and re-point.

-BB