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ESR METERS
I like to buy cheap ESR Meter in UK. Any pointers please. Thanks.
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Why has it got to be Cheap !!
Even a very good one is not expensive. kip Search Dick Smith "bigdaddy" wrote in message ... I like to buy cheap ESR Meter in UK. Any pointers please. Thanks. |
"kip" ha scritto nel messaggio .. . Why has it got to be Cheap !! Even a very good one is not expensive. kip Buy it in Italy! Cheap but professional, in Kit at the most professional kit outlet here. Costs 21 euro plus shipping plus eventually the magazine at 4,10. I've been using it for long time to check caps on bloody tv. Just today I solved a problem on a Sony.Perfect! Here details: http://www.nuovaelettronica.it/it/po...&w.kit_id=4899 Believe me, very performing! Fastvale |
That's a new one to me. :) ESR meters and schematics for them seem
to be popping up like mushrooms these days. Which is good, because they do save a lot of time when repairing gear which is more than a couple of years old, or which runs hot internally. I just did a Google search for -- ESR meter site:.uk -- which brought up a variety of sources for them in England. Good luck. :) Bob "Fastvale" wrote: "kip" ha scritto nel messaggio . .. Why has it got to be Cheap !! Even a very good one is not expensive. kip Buy it in Italy! Cheap but professional, in Kit at the most professional kit outlet here. Costs 21 euro plus shipping plus eventually the magazine at 4,10. I've been using it for long time to check caps on bloody tv. Just today I solved a problem on a Sony.Perfect! Here details: http://www.nuovaelettronica.it/it/po...&w.kit_id=4899 Believe me, very performing! Fastvale |
Buy a goodone, it pays off. Suggest you check with Portugese design marketed
by Vitor Read the Worldwide comments on http://clientes.netvisao.pt/greenpal.../comments.html "bigdaddy" schreef in bericht ... I like to buy cheap ESR Meter in UK. Any pointers please. Thanks. |
Ross Herbert wrote:
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:20:59 GMT, Ross Herbert wrote: Without trying to steal Bob Parker's thunder, this EVB unit is manufactured under license to Bob Parker. The design is his and is Australian, not Portugese. Compare http://clientes.netvisao.pt/greenpal/evb1.htm with the original http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bobpar/esrmeter.htm Of course the casing and finish of the EVB unit is different to Bob's design but the components etc are the same. Thanks Ross. :) I collaborated closely with EVB in getting that version of the meter finalized. It does have more protection against charged caps than my original circuit (big fat diodes). The components are high quality, plus it uses the very bright red Kingbright displays I originally specified, whereas the DSE meter has cheaper moderate-brightness orange displays. I think the EVB meter's really good. :) Regards, Bob |
"Bob Parker" wrote in message ... Ross Herbert wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 06:20:59 GMT, Ross Herbert wrote: Without trying to steal Bob Parker's thunder, this EVB unit is manufactured under license to Bob Parker. The design is his and is Australian, not Portugese. Compare http://clientes.netvisao.pt/greenpal/evb1.htm with the original http://members.ozemail.com.au/~bobpar/esrmeter.htm Of course the casing and finish of the EVB unit is different to Bob's design but the components etc are the same. Thanks Ross. :) I collaborated closely with EVB in getting that version of the meter finalized. It does have more protection against charged caps than my original circuit (big fat diodes). The components are high quality, plus it uses the very bright red Kingbright displays I originally specified, whereas the DSE meter has cheaper moderate-brightness orange displays. I think the EVB meter's really good. :) Regards, Bob I've seen posts on the ESR meters here and there and though I've thought a few times of getting one, haven't as yet. Who distributes the meters in this thread - of Mr. Parker or whomever? I seen him list EVB, I'm not familiar with them - at least not to my ever growing feeble mindedness and subsequent knowledge or lack thereof. What sort of price tag are they carrying. Also, I seen one made by Tenma, is it of any quality? I'd like to buy a good one when I do go to buy one. Any I should look at if I can't find "a" particular model/brand? Any I should definitely steer clear of? Any particular specs it should have to make it stand out over another model? Thanks, cl |
"cl" wrote in message o.verio.net... I've seen posts on the ESR meters here and there and though I've thought a few times of getting one, haven't as yet. Who distributes the meters in this thread - of Mr. Parker or whomever? I seen him list EVB, I'm not familiar with them - at least not to my ever growing feeble mindedness and subsequent knowledge or lack thereof. What sort of price tag are they carrying. Also, I seen one made by Tenma, is it of any quality? I'd like to buy a good one when I do go to buy one. Any I should look at if I can't find "a" particular model/brand? Any I should definitely steer clear of? Any particular specs it should have to make it stand out over another model? John's Jukes in Vancouver, BC (on Main Street) distributes a good one. I've been in there a time or two. N |
"Ross Herbert" wrote in message ... Without trying to steal Bob Parker's thunder, this EVB unit is manufactured under license to Bob Parker. The design is his and is Australian, not Portugese. One of the mentioned units is an adaptor for a multimeter. Interesting idea. N |
On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:32:01 GMT, "NSM" wrote:
"cl" wrote in message . to.verio.net... I've seen posts on the ESR meters here and there and though I've thought a few times of getting one, haven't as yet. Who distributes the meters in this thread - of Mr. Parker or whomever? I seen him list EVB, I'm not familiar with them - at least not to my ever growing feeble mindedness and subsequent knowledge or lack thereof. What sort of price tag are they carrying. Also, I seen one made by Tenma, is it of any quality? I'd like to buy a good one when I do go to buy one. Any I should look at if I can't find "a" particular model/brand? Any I should definitely steer clear of? Any particular specs it should have to make it stand out over another model? We did a comparison of all the ESR meters commonly available in the US some time ago. You can see it at http://www.anatekcorp.com/testequipment/esrcompar.htm I know that the page is ugly. We are working on it. John The Electronic Repair Center at www.anatekcorp.com Professional electronic repair discussions at www.anatekcorp.com/elrepair/elrepair.htm |
"John Bachman" wrote in message ... On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:32:01 GMT, "NSM" wrote: "cl" wrote in message .to.verio.net... I've seen posts on the ESR meters here and there and though I've thought a few times of getting one, haven't as yet. Who distributes the meters in this thread - of Mr. Parker or whomever? I seen him list EVB, I'm not familiar with them - at least not to my ever growing feeble mindedness and subsequent knowledge or lack thereof. What sort of price tag are they carrying. Also, I seen one made by Tenma, is it of any quality? I'd like to buy a good one when I do go to buy one. Any I should look at if I can't find "a" particular model/brand? Any I should definitely steer clear of? Any particular specs it should have to make it stand out over another model? We did a comparison of all the ESR meters commonly available in the US some time ago. You can see it at http://www.anatekcorp.com/testequipment/esrcompar.htm I know that the page is ugly. We are working on it. John The Electronic Repair Center at www.anatekcorp.com Professional electronic repair discussions at www.anatekcorp.com/elrepair/elrepair.htm Ugly or not, so long as it gives me the info I need, I can overlook the rest! At least you have one. I'm still stuck in the 19th century waiting to get one online. One of these days!!!!!! Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out. cl |
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 08:05:24 GMT, Ross Herbert
wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 20:11:02 -0500, John Bachman wrote: On Thu, 31 Mar 2005 22:32:01 GMT, "NSM" wrote: "cl" wrote in message s.to.verio.net... I've seen posts on the ESR meters here and there and though I've thought a few times of getting one, haven't as yet. Who distributes the meters in this thread - of Mr. Parker or whomever? I seen him list EVB, I'm not familiar with them - at least not to my ever growing feeble mindedness and subsequent knowledge or lack thereof. What sort of price tag are they carrying. Also, I seen one made by Tenma, is it of any quality? I'd like to buy a good one when I do go to buy one. Any I should look at if I can't find "a" particular model/brand? Any I should definitely steer clear of? Any particular specs it should have to make it stand out over another model? We did a comparison of all the ESR meters commonly available in the US some time ago. You can see it at http://www.anatekcorp.com/testequipment/esrcompar.htm I know that the page is ugly. We are working on it. John The Electronic Repair Center at www.anatekcorp.com Professional electronic repair discussions at www.anatekcorp.com/elrepair/elrepair.htm I notice that the ESR comparison page states that Anatek ceased to carry the Dick Smith kit http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.st...uct/View/K7214 "Anatek experienced degradation in the components supplied with this meter and stopped carrying it in March 2005." Without knowing who was making up the kits Anatek was stocking it is not possible to know where the fault lay with regard to the alleged "degradation in components". Bob Parker, the designer, specified high quality but readily available components even in the Mk1 version described in Electronics Australia, January 1996. Resistors were specified as 5% (which would have been carbon composition), except for the critical units which were 1% metal film. Capacitors were either MKT film, RB Electro's, monolithic X7R or ceramic NPO as the case required. Given the possibility that the Anatek kit supplier may have deviated from the original parts specification it might have been possible for the degradation to occur, but it would not have been the case if Bob Parker had any say in the matter. At the time of the Mk2 release in April 2004, over 12,000 Mk1 kits had been sold, most being made to customers outside Australia. Surely this is testament to a well designed and reliable unit. With the release of the Mk2 kits in April 2004 all resistors are now specified as 1% (which means all metal film) while all other components are still high quality units. The quality problems we encountered were poor pc board tracks and holes making reliable assembly difficult. There were also missing parts. That was more than a year ago, so perhaps those problems have been solved. At the same time DSE mislabeled a large shipment to us but charged our credit card anyway. We found out about the mislabling when one box out of the four arrived by some miracle. It had no city, state or zip code on it and the street address had no number, just the street name but somehow made it to an ajacent town whose name is the same as our street name. The postmaster looked AnaTek up in the phone directory and found us. That is how we saw the mislabling. DSE insisted that we pay for the entire shipment and we refused and disputed the charge. The shipment costs were charged back to DSE who now refuse to ship with us as if all this were our fault. Therefore, we can no longer offer the DSE items. Frankly, I miss handling Bob's designs as they are good, but I do not miss DSE. John AnaTek Corporation |
I was always afraid that things might get this bad after Fiona left
DSE, and unfortunately it got even worse than I imagined was possible. It's a pity that EVB aren't interested in producing and selling those ESR meters at a sensible price and in quantity. Oh well. Just a few thoughts I've been having.... Bob John Bachman wrote: Therefore, we can no longer offer the DSE items. Frankly, I miss handling Bob's designs as they are good, but I do not miss DSE. John AnaTek Corporation |
You don't need to spend up big to measure capacitor ESR. You can do
it for about 99 cents! Take your browser to http://octopus.freeyellow.com/esr.html and see what I mean. :) Bob "cl" wrote: Ugly or not, so long as it gives me the info I need, I can overlook the rest! At least you have one. I'm still stuck in the 19th century waiting to get one online. One of these days!!!!!! Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out. cl |
On Sat, 02 Apr 2005 04:57:10 +1000, Bob Parker
wrote: I was always afraid that things might get this bad after Fiona left DSE, and unfortunately it got even worse than I imagined was possible. It's a pity that EVB aren't interested in producing and selling those ESR meters at a sensible price and in quantity. Oh well. Just a few thoughts I've been having.... Bob Maybe a DSE person is lurking about here. If so, maybe he will pick up the ball and run with it. I sure hope so. Hate to lose a good product because of organizational stupitidy. John |
On Fri, 01 Apr 2005 06:33:39 -0500, John Bachman
wrote: (snip) Therefore, we can no longer offer the DSE items. Frankly, I miss handling Bob's designs as they are good, but I do not miss DSE. Most of us here in Australia don't miss DSE either. Once upon a time they were a valid part of the electronics scene. But that was a loooooong time ago. |
Years ago I wouldn't have said anything negative about DSE's
service to overseas customers. But the ongoing sloppy careless couldn't-give-a-damn attitude of the people who replaced Fiona is so well known that I'm not going to defend them. That's the reason that I've got the EVB version of the ESR meter at the top of my ESR meter web page. If DSE loses a large chunk of their overseas sales of the kits, it's because they brought it on themselves. I just wish that EVB would make and sell that version of the meter in quantity at a sensible price. Thanks for your nice thoughts about the basic ESR meter design. Much appreciated. :) Bob John Bachman wrote: Maybe a DSE person is lurking about here. If so, maybe he will pick up the ball and run with it. I sure hope so. Hate to lose a good product because of organizational stupitidy. John |
"budgie" wrote in message ... Most of us here in Australia don't miss DSE either. Once upon a time they were a valid part of the electronics scene. But that was a loooooong time ago. Is he still making the 'Dickhead' matches? What else? -- N |
Save yourself alot of time and buy a Cap Wizard
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"Ken G." wrote in message ... Save yourself alot of time and buy a Cap Wizard I have one of those I bought back when it was the only game in town and have been very happy with it. It is rather expensive in comparison to other products though. |
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"Bob Parker" wrote in message
... (Ken G.) wrote: Save yourself alot of time and buy a Cap Wizard Save yourself a lot of time and measure electrolytic cap ESR by any means available, including the 99 cent ESR adaptor at http://octopus.freeyellow.com/99.html In saving time... that's where the Cap Wizard wins, since its setup time is basically minimized... "Thank God it's 5 PM, only 7 more working hours until bedtime." |
"Do Litlle Jr." wrote:
In saving time... that's where the Cap Wizard wins, since its setup time is basically minimized... "Thank God it's 5 PM, only 7 more working hours until bedtime." Doug Jones' Cap Wizard's a great instrument. I've never heard a single bad word about it, but plenty of praise. All I'm saying is that any kind of ESR measurement saves an amazing amount of time in a repair situation. Just ask Larry Dishman who sometimes pops up here, who's been a fan of the Creative ESR meter for 20 years or more. |
On Tue, 05 Apr 2005 02:06:44 +1000, Bob Parker
wrote: "Do Litlle Jr." wrote: In saving time... that's where the Cap Wizard wins, since its setup time is basically minimized... "Thank God it's 5 PM, only 7 more working hours until bedtime." Doug Jones' Cap Wizard's a great instrument. I've never heard a single bad word about it, but plenty of praise. All I'm saying is that any kind of ESR measurement saves an amazing amount of time in a repair situation. Just ask Larry Dishman who sometimes pops up here, who's been a fan of the Creative ESR meter for 20 years or more. Bob is right, as usual. The most important feature of an ESR meter is that one is on your bench. They all work, have different features, strengths and weaknesses. Some of it is personal preference. For years we carried both the DSE (Bob Parker's design) and the Capacitor Wizard. When customers asked for a recommendation between them I always said that it came down to personal preference for an analog meter and a digital readout. The Cap Wizard has the additional advantage of an audible beep which allows you to keep your eyes on the unit under test and move along from cap to cap. The DSE unit has a price advantage. Make your choice. The Cap Wizard is also sensitive to charged caps. The repair is not hard but that is non-productive time. That is why we developed the Savr circuit for it - lets the meter work but protects up to 400 volts. John The Electronic Repair Center at www.anatekcorp.com Professional electronic repair discussion at www.anatekcorp.com/elrepair/elrepair.htm |
"John Bachman"
wrote in message ... [....] The Cap Wizard is also sensitive to charged caps. The repair is not hard but that is non-productive time. That is why we developed the Savr circuit for it - lets the meter work but protects up to 400 volts. I might as well add a word about some cheap imports that have been manufactured in China and sold by (for instance) a big electronic wholesaler in Toronto. Those ESR meters have major problems with protection... one should implement input protection, else its only a matter of time and a waste of Can$ 39.95 since they are completely toast after an ordeal with a charged capacitor. "Thank God it's Friday, only two more working days until Monday." John The Electronic Repair Center at www.anatekcorp.com Professional electronic repair discussion at www.anatekcorp.com/elrepair/elrepair.htm |
Hi Bob
I built your kit a few years ago and it has been a great addition to my shop. It still amazes me the dead sets I get working without a schematic by just poking around a SMPS and finding a high ESR cap. Prior to getting this meter I would resort to other tricks. I would try powering up and after fifteen minutes or so feel the caps around the power supply. Sometimes a warm one turned out to be the culprit. Then there was always the hot bridging method. Lots of sparks and excitement At least once you will inadvertently reverse polarity. I wiped out a regulator and scared the crap out of my wife that day. With my meter though it doesn't lie. Among many other things we do here, I rebuild apartment house intercom amplifiers. These things sit in a lobby wall for twenty years and will suddenly start sounding like crap. I find dried up electrolytics with my meter almost every time. Its a quick profitable repair. and the building managers love it too as I rebuild their equipment at a fraction of the cost of new. One serious concern I have though is that on more than one occaision I have discharged caps through the meter . Apparently, and luckily these were not charged enough to damage it but seeing an arc even a small one through my meter sure disturbed me though. I read somewhere in this thread about the installation of two diodes. Could you please tell me the specifics of this modification? Thanks very much and best regards, Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics. |
Hi again Lenny,
I know what you mean about the "hot bridging" technique. It's not for the faint-hearted! There's also a fairly high risk of damaging semiconductors in the circuit, as I seem to remember happening to me a long time ago. Regarding the idea of adding extra diodes for protection, this is what I wrote about it in the Mark 2 kit instructions: "Heavy-duty protection. To provide greater protection against connection to charged electrolytics, some kit builders have connected an inverse-parallel pair of 1N5404 (or similar) high-power diodes between the test lead sockets (jacks). If you’re the kind who’s likely to connect the meter to the 120uF input filter capacitor of a 240V-powered switching power supply without checking that it’s been properly discharged, this modification is for you. Reportedly, this protects the meter quite well, although it can result in the probe tips being blown off by large charged capacitors. The resulting surge current can also damage the charged capacitor and the power diodes themselves. However, without the diodes, the resulting 600A current spike destroys the microcontroller (IC2) and damages C6." Anatek Corp was selling a little protection board for the DSE ESR meter, and probably still is. It's much kinder to the meter and capacitors than the above brute-force idea. On the down side, it adds a small amount of resistance to the test lead circuit, making it essential to use high quality low resistance test leads. I hope this gives you some ideas to think about. I'm delighted that the meter's been assisting you for so long. :) Regards, Bob " wrote: Hi Bob I built your kit a few years ago and it has been a great addition to my shop. It still amazes me the dead sets I get working without a schematic by just poking around a SMPS and finding a high ESR cap. Prior to getting this meter I would resort to other tricks. I would try powering up and after fifteen minutes or so feel the caps around the power supply. Sometimes a warm one turned out to be the culprit. Then there was always the hot bridging method. Lots of sparks and excitement At least once you will inadvertently reverse polarity. I wiped out a regulator and scared the crap out of my wife that day. With my meter though it doesn't lie. Among many other things we do here, I rebuild apartment house intercom amplifiers. These things sit in a lobby wall for twenty years and will suddenly start sounding like crap. I find dried up electrolytics with my meter almost every time. Its a quick profitable repair. and the building managers love it too as I rebuild their equipment at a fraction of the cost of new. One serious concern I have though is that on more than one occaision I have discharged caps through the meter . Apparently, and luckily these were not charged enough to damage it but seeing an arc even a small one through my meter sure disturbed me though. I read somewhere in this thread about the installation of two diodes. Could you please tell me the specifics of this modification? Thanks very much and best regards, Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics. |
Bram Stolk wrote:
Buy a goodone, it pays off. Suggest you check with Portugese design marketed by Vitor Read the Worldwide comments on http://clientes.netvisao.pt/greenpal.../comments.html What a horrible website! The color combination makes it impossible for me to read and it is so slow I gave up on it. -- Former professional electron wrangler. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
Bob Parker wrote:
Years ago I wouldn't have said anything negative about DSE's service to overseas customers. But the ongoing sloppy careless couldn't-give-a-damn attitude of the people who replaced Fiona is so well known that I'm not going to defend them. That's the reason that I've got the EVB version of the ESR meter at the top of my ESR meter web page. If DSE loses a large chunk of their overseas sales of the kits, it's because they brought it on themselves. I just wish that EVB would make and sell that version of the meter in quantity at a sensible price. Thanks for your nice thoughts about the basic ESR meter design. Much appreciated. :) Bob Can you let someone in the US order parts and package the kits? -- Former professional electron wrangler. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida |
"Michael A. Terrell" wrote:
Bram Stolk wrote: Buy a goodone, it pays off. Suggest you check with Portugese design marketed by Vitor Read the Worldwide comments on http://clientes.netvisao.pt/greenpal.../comments.html What a horrible website! The color combination makes it impossible for me to read and it is so slow I gave up on it. The whole thing is a dreadful and quite confusing advertisement for an excellent ESR meter. Someone is going to have to go right through it and fix it up. It proves the old saying that "Electronics professionals should not try to design websites"! Bob |
"Bob Parker" wrote in message ... What a horrible website! The color combination makes it impossible for me to read and it is so slow I gave up on it. The whole thing is a dreadful and quite confusing advertisement for an excellent ESR meter. Someone is going to have to go right through it and fix it up. It proves the old saying that "Electronics professionals should not try to design websites"! I can read it OK but it looks like something a baby vomited up. -- N |
start up a mail order service and sell them direct Bob.
"Bob Parker" wrote in message ... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Bram Stolk wrote: Buy a goodone, it pays off. Suggest you check with Portugese design marketed by Vitor Read the Worldwide comments on http://clientes.netvisao.pt/greenpal.../comments.html What a horrible website! The color combination makes it impossible for me to read and it is so slow I gave up on it. The whole thing is a dreadful and quite confusing advertisement for an excellent ESR meter. Someone is going to have to go right through it and fix it up. It proves the old saying that "Electronics professionals should not try to design websites"! Bob |
"Max Harding vk3jin" maxh10(NO SPAM wrote:
start up a mail order service and sell them direct Bob. Thanks for the interesting suggestion, Max. :) These days I'm working for someone else, and I wouldn't begin to have time to get all the bits and pieces together and sell them as kits or assembled units. DSE is shooting themselves in the foot by upsetting buyers of their kits in quantity, and EVB doesn't seem to know anything about marketing. I'm not sure what to do.... Cheers, Bob |
"Bob Parker" wrote in message ... (Ken G.) wrote: Save yourself alot of time and buy a Cap Wizard Save yourself a lot of time and measure electrolytic cap ESR by any means available, including the 99 cent ESR adaptor at http://octopus.freeyellow.com/99.html In "PopTronics" (USA) July 2001, pages 25-28 there is a build it yourself design that uses a few common parts and has full protection. It claims to test in circuit from 1 uF on up. -- N |
I remember that one quite well, because of the absurd number of
errors in the schematic. Don't even think of building it until you've got all the errata notes which came out in subsequent issues. :) "NSM" wrote: In "PopTronics" (USA) July 2001, pages 25-28 there is a build it yourself design that uses a few common parts and has full protection. It claims to test in circuit from 1 uF on up. |
"Bob Parker" wrote in message ... I remember that one quite well, because of the absurd number of errors in the schematic. Don't even think of building it until you've got all the errata notes which came out in subsequent issues. :) Not unusual for them! -- N |
"NSM" wrote in message news:CyT6e.30157$jR3.9652@edtnps84... "Bob Parker" wrote in message ... I remember that one quite well, because of the absurd number of errors in the schematic. Don't even think of building it until you've got all the errata notes which came out in subsequent issues. :) Not unusual for them! -- N Yes. I contributed articles and computer programs to several magazines back in the '80's. They insisted on double spaced, non dot-matrix, hard copy on non perforated paper, and a floppy with a working sample of any programs. It wasn't easy (for me at the time) but I complied and the published work was always wrong. I spent a lot of time sending in corrections. Never made any money but enjoyed seeing my name in Radio-Electronics, Popular Electronics, HUG and MicroComputing magazines. Lucky I had a real job. It really isn't my fault that they are not around now. |
Well perhaps you need a business manager Bob. I would miss new
Hampshire but Sydney looks beautiful. Do you have skiing in Austrailia? I roller skate and bike too actually,( when my arthritis isn't bothering me). But seriously, you have designed a great product.It would be a shame if it were not to reach its full potential or worse, to fall by the wayside due to the inept actions of others. Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics. |
Hi Lenny,
Australia has everything the USA has, except NTSC television, left-hand drive cars and 117V 60Hz electrical power. :) A few hundred miles south-west of Sydney there's more skiing country than I could describe. You can do all the other things too. If you're interested in having a quick peek at what Sydney looks like to an electronics technician (me) walking the streets and parks etc with a digital camera, have a look at http://bob.parker.web1000.com/sydney/ (if that server hasn't failed again). Thanks for your supportive thoughts about the ESR meter. I think that things aren't quite bad enough to make it hard for someone to get their hands on one if they really want it. Companies like EVB, E-Leader and John's Jukes are making sure of that. :) Regards, Bob " wrote: Well perhaps you need a business manager Bob. I would miss new Hampshire but Sydney looks beautiful. Do you have skiing in Austrailia? I roller skate and bike too actually,( when my arthritis isn't bothering me). But seriously, you have designed a great product.It would be a shame if it were not to reach its full potential or worse, to fall by the wayside due to the inept actions of others. Lenny Stein, Barlen Electronics. |
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 00:45:09 +1000, Bob Parker
wrote: Hi Lenny, Australia has everything the USA has, except NTSC television, left-hand drive cars and 117V 60Hz electrical power. :) A few hundred miles south-west of Sydney there's more skiing country than I could describe. You can do all the other things too. If you're interested in having a quick peek at what Sydney looks like to an electronics technician (me) walking the streets and parks etc with a digital camera, have a look at http://bob.parker.web1000.com/sydney/ (if that server hasn't failed again). G'day mate! Nice pix. What the heck is that critter in front of the hospital and what is he doing - remember this is a family newsgroup. What, no baseball diamonds? I thought Australia was civilized ;-) John |
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