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plasma and lcd repairs
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Does anyone know of somewhere online where I can learn about repairing plasma and LCD TVs, plasma is becoming cheaper and cheaper now in the UK, people seem to be buying them now. and alot of my customers are showing interest in them. ime a self employed tech and are concerned about been left behind in the technology race. ime hoping it to be at least 2 or 3 years before it starts to affect me. Thanks Jeff |
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"Jeff" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of somewhere online where I can learn about repairing plasma and LCD TVs, plasma is becoming cheaper and cheaper now in the UK, people seem to be buying them now. and alot of my customers are showing interest in them. ime a self employed tech and are concerned about been left behind in the technology race. ime hoping it to be at least 2 or 3 years before it starts to affect me. Thanks Jeff I got out of the repair business years ago. TOO MUCH HASSLE for little money. As a self employed tech it must be getting harder and harder to make a living.It certainly was when I gave up 14 years ago. No manufacturer support and buggering about getting parts. Also dealing with dickhead customers ****ed me off. Sooner or later it will be time to throw in the towel. Lots of equipment is now near impossible to repair without lots of knowhow and special test and desoldering equipment. Prices are coming down fast and soon most equipment will go for recycling when it fails. Best get a proper job now. Plumber, plasterer, electrician or builder. Do the job, get paid and no hassle. No repeat calls except for another job. Thats where the money is and always will be. |
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I got out of the repair business years ago. TOO MUCH HASSLE for little
money. Sounds like you where crap at it then. ive been doing it 14 year now and am still making a very good living, "Eric" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of somewhere online where I can learn about repairing plasma and LCD TVs, plasma is becoming cheaper and cheaper now in the UK, people seem to be buying them now. and alot of my customers are showing interest in them. ime a self employed tech and are concerned about been left behind in the technology race. ime hoping it to be at least 2 or 3 years before it starts to affect me. Thanks Jeff I got out of the repair business years ago. TOO MUCH HASSLE for little money. As a self employed tech it must be getting harder and harder to make a living.It certainly was when I gave up 14 years ago. No manufacturer support and buggering about getting parts. Also dealing with dickhead customers ****ed me off. Sooner or later it will be time to throw in the towel. Lots of equipment is now near impossible to repair without lots of knowhow and special test and desoldering equipment. Prices are coming down fast and soon most equipment will go for recycling when it fails. Best get a proper job now. Plumber, plasterer, electrician or builder. Do the job, get paid and no hassle. No repeat calls except for another job. Thats where the money is and always will be. |
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"Jeff" wrote in message ... I got out of the repair business years ago. TOO MUCH HASSLE for little money. Sounds like you where crap at it then. ive been doing it 14 year now and am still making a very good living, "Eric" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of somewhere online where I can learn about repairing plasma and LCD TVs, plasma is becoming cheaper and cheaper now in the UK, people seem to be buying them now. and alot of my customers are showing interest in them. ime a self employed tech and are concerned about been left behind in the technology race. ime hoping it to be at least 2 or 3 years before it starts to affect me. Thanks Jeff I got out of the repair business years ago. TOO MUCH HASSLE for little money. As a self employed tech it must be getting harder and harder to make a living.It certainly was when I gave up 14 years ago. No manufacturer support and buggering about getting parts. Also dealing with dickhead customers ****ed me off. Sooner or later it will be time to throw in the towel. Lots of equipment is now near impossible to repair without lots of knowhow and special test and desoldering equipment. Prices are coming down fast and soon most equipment will go for recycling when it fails. Best get a proper job now. Plumber, plasterer, electrician or builder. Do the job, get paid and no hassle. No repeat calls except for another job. Thats where the money is and always will be. You know, Eric pretty much has the picture....you CAN make a living at consumer electronics, but it's a tough way to go. Might I suggest industrial electronics. I kow most independants charge from $75 to $150 an hour out in Silicon Valley, CA. Good luck to you whatever you decide to do....Ross |
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"Jeff" wrote in message ... I got out of the repair business years ago. TOO MUCH HASSLE for little money. Sounds like you where crap at it then. ive been doing it 14 year now and am still making a very good living, "Eric" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of somewhere online where I can learn about repairing plasma and LCD TVs, plasma is becoming cheaper and cheaper now in the UK, people seem to be buying them now. and alot of my customers are showing interest in them. ime a self employed tech and are concerned about been left behind in the technology race. ime hoping it to be at least 2 or 3 years before it starts to affect me. Thanks Jeff I got out of the repair business years ago. TOO MUCH HASSLE for little money. As a self employed tech it must be getting harder and harder to make a living.It certainly was when I gave up 14 years ago. No manufacturer support and buggering about getting parts. Also dealing with dickhead customers ****ed me off. Sooner or later it will be time to throw in the towel. Lots of equipment is now near impossible to repair without lots of knowhow and special test and desoldering equipment. Prices are coming down fast and soon most equipment will go for recycling when it fails. Best get a proper job now. Plumber, plasterer, electrician or builder. Do the job, get paid and no hassle. No repeat calls except for another job. Thats where the money is and always will be. ????????? Sounds like you where crap at it then. No need for that attitude! I used to work 12-15 hours a day 6 days a week as a legitimate business. Made a fair amount of money but could see that the repair business was in decline. Had TV and video rentals, installed satellite dishes etc but the hassle of doing the books ordering spares and doing the repairs, paying increasing overheads and vehicle running costs was getting excessive. I now work sensible hours having retrained as an electrician then learned how to plaster to a high standard. Also occasionally help out a plumber Over the past few years I invested in property and refurbished it myself. Now have 3 houses on rent and own my own outright. I now get home to see the family at 6 pm every night and earn a lot more than I ever could or did with a lot less aggro. And I am happier for it. If you are making a good living out of your business and doing it legitimately and paying taxes etc then good luck because you need it. |
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"Jeff" wrote in message ... | I got out of the repair business years ago. TOO MUCH HASSLE for little | money. | | Sounds like you where crap at it then. | ive been doing it 14 year now and am still making a very good living, No, he's right. I used to be able to make a good living repairing toasters, kettles, irons etc., never mind tube radios and record players etc. 20 years ago techs used to repair and recalibrate disk drives for computers. I used to service them down to the board level. Everything is disposable now. Even plasma TV's probably aren't a good way to go - when the display is shot it seems the whole thing is toast. N |
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"Jeff" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of somewhere online where I can learn about repairing plasma and LCD TVs, plasma is becoming cheaper and cheaper now in the UK, people seem to be buying them now. and alot of my customers are showing interest in them. ime a self employed tech and are concerned about been left behind in the technology race. ime hoping it to be at least 2 or 3 years before it starts to affect me. Thanks Jeff About the only thing you can do is module swapping and typical power supply repair and such, same skills you can use for CRT TV repair. The boards are dense and complex enough with many custom parts so it's not really worth trying to do component level repair on most of them and you need highly specialized equipment to replace driver boards bonded to the panel. |
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"Jeff" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of somewhere online where I can learn about repairing plasma and LCD TVs, plasma is becoming cheaper and cheaper now in the UK, people seem to be buying them now. and alot of my customers are showing interest in them. ime a self employed tech and are concerned about been left behind in the technology race. ime hoping it to be at least 2 or 3 years before it starts to affect me. Have you contacted Panasonic, Sony, and others to see if they offer any workshops? |
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10 years ago you would find at least 25 repair places in my area in the yellow
pages, now you'ld be lucky to find 7. You would think we'd be busy but were are not. Things are a changing and not too much business for the cheap stuff to make a living like years ago when the phone rang off the hook. |
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"JohnAce" wrote in message ... | 10 years ago you would find at least 25 repair places in my area in the yellow | pages, now you'ld be lucky to find 7. You would think we'd be busy but were are | not. Things are a changing and not too much business for the cheap stuff to | make a living like years ago when the phone rang off the hook. If you look on eBay for test equipment all you see are various lots being sold off from shops that have closed down. Are we going to have to ship everything back to China for repairs? N |
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I have no idea about online training. But, these new types of TV sets are
serviced mostly at the modular level only, by the manufacture service reps. They use the recommended jigs, and instrumentation for doing the necessary adjustments, some of which also requires their dedicated software's and interfaces. The particular details depends on the model and manufacture. The circuit boards are built up using high density surface mount components, with very few generic type parts in the way of the major semiconductors. It would be best for the small service store to give this level of work out to the manufacture rep who is properly set up for this type of work, and bill the customer accordingly. In true retrospect, I would think it is time to seriously consider the service business for the small family owned business is coming to its end time. Most of the new electronic products are manufactured at a level that is very complex to service, and the lower end ones are designed as throw-away. During the warranty period, with many of the medium to low end electronics products, the customer is given a new unit on exchange. The exchanged units are generally stripped down and built back up again, using parts from other exchanged units. As for the defective boards, if the fault is not something that is an easy five minute fix, they are trashed. The so-called refurbished sets are sold as refurbished. These generally end up in the flea markets, at a reduced cost. Because of the nature of the service industry, many of the small service centres, and stores are closing up. The service work will be left to the manufacture rep. As for spare parts and schematics for the average level of electronic devices, the manufactures generally do not supply them like they used to. For many of the average models of TV sets, and appliances, there is no longer any out of warranty support. -- Jerry G. ====== "Jeff" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of somewhere online where I can learn about repairing plasma and LCD TVs, plasma is becoming cheaper and cheaper now in the UK, people seem to be buying them now. and allot of my customers are showing interest in them. ime a self employed tech and are concerned about been left behind in the technology race. ime hoping it to be at least 2 or 3 years before it starts to affect me. Thanks Jeff |
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sounds like you are all in the usa, ime in UK and things aint that bad here
YET can still earn £60 for 15 to 30 mins of work for a crt widescreen tv repair still costing £250+ to replace, and also the odd vcr as well. so at the moment i will plod on as i am. Thanks to james , charles and jerry for providing the info i asked for. what sort of faults are plasma,s producing over there, are the power suplies reliable or not so. and what sort of age are they starting to fail. thanks again. "Ross Mac" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ... I got out of the repair business years ago. TOO MUCH HASSLE for little money. Sounds like you where crap at it then. ive been doing it 14 year now and am still making a very good living, "Eric" wrote in message ... "Jeff" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of somewhere online where I can learn about repairing plasma and LCD TVs, plasma is becoming cheaper and cheaper now in the UK, people seem to be buying them now. and alot of my customers are showing interest in them. ime a self employed tech and are concerned about been left behind in the technology race. ime hoping it to be at least 2 or 3 years before it starts to affect me. Thanks Jeff I got out of the repair business years ago. TOO MUCH HASSLE for little money. As a self employed tech it must be getting harder and harder to make a living.It certainly was when I gave up 14 years ago. No manufacturer support and buggering about getting parts. Also dealing with dickhead customers ****ed me off. Sooner or later it will be time to throw in the towel. Lots of equipment is now near impossible to repair without lots of knowhow and special test and desoldering equipment. Prices are coming down fast and soon most equipment will go for recycling when it fails. Best get a proper job now. Plumber, plasterer, electrician or builder. Do the job, get paid and no hassle. No repeat calls except for another job. Thats where the money is and always will be. You know, Eric pretty much has the picture....you CAN make a living at consumer electronics, but it's a tough way to go. Might I suggest industrial electronics. I kow most independants charge from $75 to $150 an hour out in Silicon Valley, CA. Good luck to you whatever you decide to do....Ross |
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On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 17:37:12 GMT, "Eric"
wrote: "Jeff" wrote in message ... Hi Does anyone know of somewhere online where I can learn about repairing plasma and LCD TVs, plasma is becoming cheaper and cheaper now in the UK, people seem to be buying them now. and alot of my customers are showing interest in them. ime a self employed tech and are concerned about been left behind in the technology race. ime hoping it to be at least 2 or 3 years before it starts to affect me. Thanks Jeff I got out of the repair business years ago. TOO MUCH HASSLE for little money. As a self employed tech it must be getting harder and harder to make a living.It certainly was when I gave up 14 years ago. No manufacturer support and buggering about getting parts. Also dealing with dickhead customers ****ed me off. Sooner or later it will be time to throw in the towel. Lots of equipment is now near impossible to repair without lots of knowhow and special test and desoldering equipment. Prices are coming down fast and soon most equipment will go for recycling when it fails. Best get a proper job now. Plumber, plasterer, electrician or builder. Do the job, get paid and no hassle. No repeat calls except for another job. Thats where the money is and always will be. I have training manuals for Plasma & LCD TVs on my site at http://www.manuals4you.com Want to Fix Something? http://www.manuals4you.com |
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http://www.moniserv.com/doc/tftpanel.htm this webb site has some
prices. but what is wrong with the set. |
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http://www.moniserv.com/doc/tftpanel.htm this webb site has some
prices. but what is wrong with the set. |
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http://www.moniserv.com/doc/tftpanel.htm this webb site has some
prices. but what is wrong with the set. |
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