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A friend claimed he was able to use a car battery as an arc welder. Is this
possible? Would it damage the battery? Any responses are appreciated! Tim |
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![]() "Tim R." wrote in message ... A friend claimed he was able to use a car battery as an arc welder. Is this possible? Would it damage the battery? Any responses are appreciated! Tim Yes it's possible, but only should be done in emergencies. It can cause the battery to explode amoung other things. |
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This is a very dangerous way to do welding! The battery is seeing a short
circuit, and can explode. I have heard of some serious accidents doing this practice. Tell your friend to get himself a proper welding supply that is designed for this type of work, and is safe. The battery will be making high internal heat between the plates, and releasing hydrogen at the same time. This is a bid combination! The state of this is very unstable, and not safe. -- Jerry G. ====== "Tim R." wrote in message ... A friend claimed he was able to use a car battery as an arc welder. Is this possible? Would it damage the battery? Any responses are appreciated! Tim |
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Howdy Tim........The answer to your questions are "maybe" and "maybe".
You'll find its very difficult to maintain a good arc with a single 12 volt battery (the voltage of which will drop a lot as you try to strike the arc). My experience has been with using 2 x 12 volt group 8D batterys in a 24 volt setup..........in this case I kept the marine engines running with their 80 amp alternators floating the group........used 6011 x 3/32 and I believe we also tried 1/8 rods to put a couple of pipe bulkheads through a 3/8" deck. What you'll find is that your welding characteristics will change a lot from when you first strike a new cold rod to nearing the stub......which will end up red hot a lot quicker than using a more regulated (and not pure DC) welding machine. Whats important.............battery capacity (depends on whether you're going to just tack or spot some sheet metal vs running multiple passes)......battery voltage to start and maintain your arc (this is where the batterys will be a lot different).....your ability to adjust rapidly to the changing welding characteristic as the rod is used up......GOOD CONNECTIONS to the battery (not booster clamps if at all possible). Would I try running some cables out from under the hood of your modern computerized car.........NOPE! Note there are other possibilities here..........welding inverters etc / suitcase welders etc............do some research here.. Warnings about ruining the batteries (increases as the size decreases or your demands increase) are valid as well as the possibility of a hydrogen explosion occuring from the gassing cells (if lead acid batteries are used)......you don't want to be welding in the direct vicinity of those batteries etc. Hope this helps answer the questions. |
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![]() "Tim R." wrote in message ... | A friend claimed he was able to use a car battery as an arc welder. Is this | possible? Would it damage the battery? ISTR there was some sort of odd spot welder that used carbon rods that might do that. N |
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Sounds like a fine workable idea! Might grab an arc-air rod and try just
that myself. |
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I actually made an emergency repair to a Pinto using it's battery and a
Craftsman screwdriver as the electrode, but at the time I was unaware that it could cause the battery to explode (lucky)... |
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![]() "BWL" wrote in message ... | I actually made an emergency repair to a Pinto using it's battery and a | Craftsman screwdriver as the electrode, but at the time I was unaware that it | could cause the battery to explode (lucky)... Didn't the Pinto use AA cells as the battery G? N |
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