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Tim R. December 29th 04 03:25 AM

Welding with a car battery
 
A friend claimed he was able to use a car battery as an arc welder. Is this
possible? Would it damage the battery?


Any responses are appreciated!

Tim



James Sweet December 29th 04 03:46 AM


"Tim R." wrote in message
...
A friend claimed he was able to use a car battery as an arc welder. Is

this
possible? Would it damage the battery?


Any responses are appreciated!

Tim



Yes it's possible, but only should be done in emergencies. It can cause the
battery to explode amoung other things.



Jerry G. December 29th 04 02:03 PM

This is a very dangerous way to do welding! The battery is seeing a short
circuit, and can explode. I have heard of some serious accidents doing this
practice. Tell your friend to get himself a proper welding supply that is
designed for this type of work, and is safe.

The battery will be making high internal heat between the plates, and
releasing hydrogen at the same time. This is a bid combination! The state of
this is very unstable, and not safe.

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Jerry G.
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"Tim R." wrote in message
...
A friend claimed he was able to use a car battery as an arc welder. Is this
possible? Would it damage the battery?


Any responses are appreciated!

Tim




G December 29th 04 02:19 PM

Howdy Tim........The answer to your questions are "maybe" and "maybe".
You'll find its very difficult to maintain a good arc with a single 12 volt
battery (the voltage of which will drop a lot as you try to strike the
arc). My experience has been with using 2 x 12 volt group 8D batterys in a
24 volt setup..........in this case I kept the marine engines running with
their 80 amp alternators floating the group........used 6011 x 3/32 and I
believe we also tried 1/8 rods to put a couple of pipe bulkheads through a
3/8" deck. What you'll find is that your welding characteristics will
change a lot from when you first strike a new cold rod to nearing the
stub......which will end up red hot a lot quicker than using a more
regulated (and not pure DC) welding machine.

Whats important.............battery capacity (depends on whether you're
going to just tack or spot some sheet metal vs running multiple
passes)......battery voltage to start and maintain your arc (this is where
the batterys will be a lot different).....your ability to adjust rapidly to
the changing welding characteristic as the rod is used up......GOOD
CONNECTIONS to the battery (not booster clamps if at all possible).

Would I try running some cables out from under the hood of your modern
computerized car.........NOPE!



Note there are other possibilities here..........welding inverters etc /
suitcase welders etc............do some research here..

Warnings about ruining the batteries (increases as the size decreases or
your demands increase) are valid as well as the possibility of a hydrogen
explosion occuring from the gassing cells (if lead acid batteries are
used)......you don't want to be welding in the direct vicinity of those
batteries etc.


Hope this helps answer the questions.

NSM December 29th 04 07:15 PM


"Tim R." wrote in message
...
| A friend claimed he was able to use a car battery as an arc welder. Is
this
| possible? Would it damage the battery?

ISTR there was some sort of odd spot welder that used carbon rods that might
do that.

N



G December 29th 04 09:55 PM

Sounds like a fine workable idea! Might grab an arc-air rod and try just
that myself.


BWL January 2nd 05 03:49 AM

I actually made an emergency repair to a Pinto using it's battery and a
Craftsman screwdriver as the electrode, but at the time I was unaware that it
could cause the battery to explode (lucky)...

NSM January 2nd 05 05:04 AM


"BWL" wrote in message
...
| I actually made an emergency repair to a Pinto using it's battery and a
| Craftsman screwdriver as the electrode, but at the time I was unaware that
it
| could cause the battery to explode (lucky)...

Didn't the Pinto use AA cells as the battery G?

N




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