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I have just been given an HP 1650B logic analyser but I don't have a system
disk for it so I can't use it :-(
Anyone know where to get hold of this disk or can it be downloaded from
somewhere?
TIA,
Martin.

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Martin Whybrow wrote:

I have just been given an HP 1650B logic analyser but I don't have a system
disk for it so I can't use it :-(
Anyone know where to get hold of this disk or can it be downloaded from
somewhere?
TIA,
Martin.


Martin,
Physically, this is a 3 1/2 inch PC floppy, however the format
is not PC compatible. IIRC, the speed of rotation of the HP drive is
like twice that of a PC. So you will not be able to download it and
copy it from your PC. Duplicating a system disk from or on another
HP 1650B is really your only option. Oh, and make darn sure you make
yourself several copies once you do lay your hands on one.

Thanks, Steve
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Martin Whybrow wrote:

I have just been given an HP 1650B logic analyser but I don't have a

system
disk for it so I can't use it :-(
Anyone know where to get hold of this disk or can it be downloaded from
somewhere?
TIA,
Martin.


Martin,
Physically, this is a 3 1/2 inch PC floppy, however the format
is not PC compatible. IIRC, the speed of rotation of the HP drive is
like twice that of a PC. So you will not be able to download it and
copy it from your PC. Duplicating a system disk from or on another
HP 1650B is really your only option. Oh, and make darn sure you make
yourself several copies once you do lay your hands on one.

Thanks, Steve

Steve
I might be able to do that on my Linux box (most floppy drive parameters can
be altered in software on that system).
I did get hold of a 1652 system disk, but at boot up I got an error message
0020 000B164 2000; not sure if it's because I have the wrong disk or if
there is a fault on the unit (the colleague who gave me the analyser didn't
mention it).
Thanks,
Martin

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Martin Whybrow wrote:

I have just been given an HP 1650B logic analyser but I don't have a

system
disk for it so I can't use it :-(
Anyone know where to get hold of this disk or can it be downloaded from
somewhere?
TIA,
Martin.


Martin,
Physically, this is a 3 1/2 inch PC floppy, however the format
is not PC compatible. IIRC, the speed of rotation of the HP drive is
like twice that of a PC. So you will not be able to download it and
copy it from your PC. Duplicating a system disk from or on another
HP 1650B is really your only option. Oh, and make darn sure you make
yourself several copies once you do lay your hands on one.

Thanks, Steve

Steve
I might be able to do that on my Linux box (most floppy drive parameters can
be altered in software on that system).
I did get hold of a 1652 system disk, but at boot up I got an error message
0020 000B164 2000; not sure if it's because I have the wrong disk or if
there is a fault on the unit (the colleague who gave me the analyser didn't
mention it).
Thanks,
Martin


Martin,

OK, OK. I've bit the hook. I've got a 1650B right here. Paid all of of
$50 US for mine. Please tell me how to read the disk on my Linux RH 7.3,
running a plain 2.4.27 Kernel, (as if it makes a difference) and I'll
be happy to send you the image. Also have a Fedora box sitting here, too.
Respectfully, I don't think it can be done. Don't have the url
references, but I've read some discussion about this is the distant past,
and the conclusion was a PC drive can not be used. Please prove that
info wrong; it would certainly be a useful tidbit for one/us to know.
Floppy drives are cheap, worth the risk, I guess.... ;^)

Thanks, Steve

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Steve wrote:
OK, OK. I've bit the hook. I've got a 1650B right here. Paid all of of
$50 US for mine. Please tell me how to read the disk on my Linux RH 7.3,
running a plain 2.4.27 Kernel, (as if it makes a difference) and I'll
be happy to send you the image. Also have a Fedora box sitting here, too.
Respectfully, I don't think it can be done. Don't have the url
references, but I've read some discussion about this is the distant past,
and the conclusion was a PC drive can not be used. Please prove that
info wrong; it would certainly be a useful tidbit for one/us to know.
Floppy drives are cheap, worth the risk, I guess.... ;^)


I am looking for a disk for a 1650A.

Google found references to a program called LIFUTIL for accessing LIF
disks on a DOS PC. I also found links to downloads for the 1650 from
Agilent's FTP server but the files seem to have disappeared in a
reorganization. I emailed Tech Support and they said they aren't there
since it is obsolete.

I have seen test equipment dealers selling the disks, but don't want to
spend much since I have no cables or probes either (Got the 1650 cheap
and figured I would try to make some probes after I got the s/w. Yes, I
know the probe has a terminator in it.).


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Shawn D'Alimonte wrote:

Steve wrote:
OK, OK. I've bit the hook. I've got a 1650B right here. Paid all of of
$50 US for mine. Please tell me how to read the disk on my Linux RH 7.3,
running a plain 2.4.27 Kernel, (as if it makes a difference) and I'll
be happy to send you the image. Also have a Fedora box sitting here, too.
Respectfully, I don't think it can be done. Don't have the url
references, but I've read some discussion about this is the distant past,
and the conclusion was a PC drive can not be used. Please prove that
info wrong; it would certainly be a useful tidbit for one/us to know.
Floppy drives are cheap, worth the risk, I guess.... ;^)


I am looking for a disk for a 1650A.


Have no clue if the 1650B diskette I have makes any difference.


Google found references to a program called LIFUTIL for accessing LIF
disks on a DOS PC. I also found links to downloads for the 1650 from
Agilent's FTP server but the files seem to have disappeared in a
reorganization. I emailed Tech Support and they said they aren't there
since it is obsolete.

I have seen test equipment dealers selling the disks, but don't want to
spend much since I have no cables or probes either (Got the 1650 cheap
and figured I would try to make some probes after I got the s/w. Yes, I
know the probe has a terminator in it.).


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Martin & Shawn,
Grabbed LIFUTIL off the 'net. Ran it on a spare Pentium II machine
that boots DOS ver 5.0. The utility does not allow one to make a perfect
disk image, but it can be used to make an apparently functional HP diskette!
Oddly, the utility allows one to dump the contents of the HP diskette to
an ASCII hex dump file, yet doesn't allow use of said dump file to create
a new diskette. Therefore, it's a bit of work to manually do each file
at a time, but it works. Comparing ASCII dumps of original and the
newly generated diskette, there are blocks of FF's verses zeroes,
(in apparently the directory or "FAT" areas of the diskette) but it
doesn't seem to matter.

After midnight here now -- I'm off to bed. Hopefully can get a
zip file together tomorrow & will email.

Thanks, Steve

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