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Blue shadows after repair
Hi, folks; back again...
I got my 19" monitor back Tuesday from the shop after a long-delayed repair. The image is good now, but now there is a color problem. Used to be that shades of red onscreen always revealed a small bluish smudge near the center of the screen, but that didn't spoil it for graphics work. Now, there is blue "dust" down the left-hand side, the center, and lower right corner. What happened?? My question is, can anything be done about this? To avoid another 3-week hassle, is there anything I can do myself to correct the color? Is it the repairman's responsibility? One more thing: This Hitachi 751 has a "Degauss" button. Pressing it used to bounce the image on the screen violently, with the same "bonk" the monitor made when turning it on. I guessed that was just the degausser degaussing. Now nothing happens. Opinions?? For reference, I've pasted Jerry Greenberg's answer to my original problem. (Yeah, it took me that long to get it to the shop.) Sorry for the long post. As before, I'm grateful for your thoughts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry G." Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:59 AM Subject: Hitachi SuperScan monitor displays odd "ribbon" across top of screen Defective capacitors in the vertical amp section in the monitor are usually the normal cause of this. It is possible to have some semiconductor or other component failures to cause this, but not very often. If you continue to use the monitor this way, there will be more damage, thus increasing the cost of the repair as usage goes on. Take the monitor to a service centre that is authorized to work on computer monitors. This type of repair should generally not be too expensive. After your monitor is properly serviced, it will work normally again. -- Greetings, Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG ========================================= WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm ========================================= "DemoDisk" wrote in message ... This is my first time posting here, and I hope this is the right place for this problem. An area about 2.5 cm at the top of my Win 98 desktop shows extra lines -- white, gray, a few black -- just after starting. Icons in this area look stretched vertically and at the very top of the screen they look "folded back" on themselves. When I move the mouse pointer to its upward limit, before it stops it emerges again stretched and heading downward. The area spans the screen and used to shrink to about 4mm high after ten minutes or so. Lately I've noticed that it doesn't reduce as much (ie, problem getting worse?). If I shut the monitor off with Win98 running and then turn it on again, they're back. One odd thing is, the length of each successive line is a bit less than the one above it, so the ends of the "band" are angled inward. Also, the Win98 splash screen doesn't show the lines during boot-up. Weird? I've been thinking maybe a reinforcing wire on the mask broke? Someone suggested a "broken sweep generator." I hope it's a software problem and not the monitor, but please tell me if you know what it is and what to do. Please help if you can. Thanks. Oh, and it's a Hitachi SuperScan Elite 751. JPM |
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It sounds like the servicer forgot to connect back the degaussing coil, or
this has failed. How old is the monitor, and how much did you have to lay out to have it fixed??? -- Jerry G. ========================== "DemoDisk" wrote in message ... Hi, folks; back again... I got my 19" monitor back Tuesday from the shop after a long-delayed repair. The image is good now, but now there is a color problem. Used to be that shades of red onscreen always revealed a small bluish smudge near the center of the screen, but that didn't spoil it for graphics work. Now, there is blue "dust" down the left-hand side, the center, and lower right corner. What happened?? My question is, can anything be done about this? To avoid another 3-week hassle, is there anything I can do myself to correct the color? Is it the repairman's responsibility? One more thing: This Hitachi 751 has a "Degauss" button. Pressing it used to bounce the image on the screen violently, with the same "bonk" the monitor made when turning it on. I guessed that was just the degausser degaussing. Now nothing happens. Opinions?? For reference, I've pasted Jerry Greenberg's answer to my original problem. (Yeah, it took me that long to get it to the shop.) Sorry for the long post. As before, I'm grateful for your thoughts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry G." Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:59 AM Subject: Hitachi SuperScan monitor displays odd "ribbon" across top of screen Defective capacitors in the vertical amp section in the monitor are usually the normal cause of this. It is possible to have some semiconductor or other component failures to cause this, but not very often. If you continue to use the monitor this way, there will be more damage, thus increasing the cost of the repair as usage goes on. Take the monitor to a service centre that is authorized to work on computer monitors. This type of repair should generally not be too expensive. After your monitor is properly serviced, it will work normally again. -- Greetings, Jerry Greenberg GLG Technologies GLG ========================================= WebPage http://www.zoom-one.com Electronics http://www.zoom-one.com/electron.htm ========================================= "DemoDisk" wrote in message ... This is my first time posting here, and I hope this is the right place for this problem. An area about 2.5 cm at the top of my Win 98 desktop shows extra lines -- white, gray, a few black -- just after starting. Icons in this area look stretched vertically and at the very top of the screen they look "folded back" on themselves. When I move the mouse pointer to its upward limit, before it stops it emerges again stretched and heading downward. The area spans the screen and used to shrink to about 4mm high after ten minutes or so. Lately I've noticed that it doesn't reduce as much (ie, problem getting worse?). If I shut the monitor off with Win98 running and then turn it on again, they're back. One odd thing is, the length of each successive line is a bit less than the one above it, so the ends of the "band" are angled inward. Also, the Win98 splash screen doesn't show the lines during boot-up. Weird? I've been thinking maybe a reinforcing wire on the mask broke? Someone suggested a "broken sweep generator." I hope it's a software problem and not the monitor, but please tell me if you know what it is and what to do. Please help if you can. Thanks. Oh, and it's a Hitachi SuperScan Elite 751. JPM |
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"Jerry G." wrote in message ... It sounds like the servicer forgot to connect back the degaussing coil, or this has failed. How old is the monitor, and how much did you have to lay out to have it fixed??? -- Jerry G. ========================== Jerry G.! Good to hear from you again. Here is some data from the back of the monitor: Hitachi SuperScan Elite 751 Mod. No. CM751U Manufactured September 1999 S. No. CM751U - 515 and then # V9I 041301 The recent repair cost $55. Think it was worth it? I guess I should have put the money into a new one instead. JPM |
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"Ray" wrote in message ... Putting both of those symptoms together, I'd say the servicer may have forgotten to plug the degaussing coil back into the motherboard. Ray Thanks for your answer, Ray. Two questions, please. Are degaussing coils supposed to behave like that (i.e, "Bonk," and the image shaking like that?) And did you mean that plugging in the degaussing coil would eliminate the blue shadowing? I'd do it myself if I could avoid hauling it back to the shop again, but I'm no technician. JPM |
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"DemoDisk" wrote in message ... "Ray" wrote in message ... Putting both of those symptoms together, I'd say the servicer may have forgotten to plug the degaussing coil back into the motherboard. Ray Thanks for your answer, Ray. Two questions, please. Are degaussing coils supposed to behave like that (i.e, "Bonk," and the image shaking like that?) And did you mean that plugging in the degaussing coil would eliminate the blue shadowing? I'd do it myself if I could avoid hauling it back to the shop again, but I'm no technician. JPM Yes that's exactly what they're supposed to do. And yes it should solve the purity error you're seeing. The problem should be pretty obvious, the coil is usually wound over with black electrical tape and goes around the bell of the CRT, plugs into the board with a 2 prong connector. |
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Hi,
I would consider $55 not much for a repair. I would have gambled on this myself, as long as I know that the CRT emission is good. When we start talking about $150 to $200 and up for servicing this type of set, I would then have second thoughts. Each of us have our own opinions about where the value cut-off point is for this type of thing. I am a bit of a gambler at times. Believe me, I've had my share of losses and gains in guessing at things. I would have them check the degaussing coil, and its connections before panicking about other possible faults. -- Jerry G. ====== "DemoDisk" wrote in message ... "Jerry G." wrote in message ... It sounds like the servicer forgot to connect back the degaussing coil, or this has failed. How old is the monitor, and how much did you have to lay out to have it fixed??? -- Jerry G. ========================== Jerry G.! Good to hear from you again. Here is some data from the back of the monitor: Hitachi SuperScan Elite 751 Mod. No. CM751U Manufactured September 1999 S. No. CM751U - 515 and then # V9I 041301 The recent repair cost $55. Think it was worth it? I guess I should have put the money into a new one instead. JPM ============================= Hi, folks; back again... I got my 19" monitor back Tuesday from the shop after a long-delayed repair. The image is good now, but now there is a color problem. Used to be that shades of red onscreen always revealed a small bluish smudge near the center of the screen, but that didn't spoil it for graphics work. Now, there is blue "dust" down the left-hand side, the center, and lower right corner. What happened?? My question is, can anything be done about this? To avoid another 3-week hassle, is there anything I can do myself to correct the color? Is it the repairman's responsibility? One more thing: This Hitachi 751 has a "Degauss" button. Pressing it used to bounce the image on the screen violently, with the same "bonk" the monitor made when turning it on. I guessed that was just the degausser degaussing. Now nothing happens. Opinions?? For reference, I've pasted Jerry Greenberg's answer to my original problem. (Yeah, it took me that long to get it to the shop.) Sorry for the long post. As before, I'm grateful for your thoughts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry G." Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:59 AM Subject: Hitachi SuperScan monitor displays odd "ribbon" across top of screen |
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Hi,
I would consider $55 not much for a repair. I would have gambled on this myself, as long as I know that the CRT emission is good. When we start talking about $150 to $200 and up for servicing this type of set, I would then have second thoughts. Each of us have our own opinions about where the value cut-off point is for this type of thing. I am a bit of a gambler at times. Believe me, I've had my share of losses and gains in guessing at things. I would have them check the degaussing coil, and its connections before panicking about other possible faults. -- Jerry G. ====== "DemoDisk" wrote in message ... "Jerry G." wrote in message ... It sounds like the servicer forgot to connect back the degaussing coil, or this has failed. How old is the monitor, and how much did you have to lay out to have it fixed??? -- Jerry G. ========================== Jerry G.! Good to hear from you again. Here is some data from the back of the monitor: Hitachi SuperScan Elite 751 Mod. No. CM751U Manufactured September 1999 S. No. CM751U - 515 and then # V9I 041301 The recent repair cost $55. Think it was worth it? I guess I should have put the money into a new one instead. JPM ============================= Hi, folks; back again... I got my 19" monitor back Tuesday from the shop after a long-delayed repair. The image is good now, but now there is a color problem. Used to be that shades of red onscreen always revealed a small bluish smudge near the center of the screen, but that didn't spoil it for graphics work. Now, there is blue "dust" down the left-hand side, the center, and lower right corner. What happened?? My question is, can anything be done about this? To avoid another 3-week hassle, is there anything I can do myself to correct the color? Is it the repairman's responsibility? One more thing: This Hitachi 751 has a "Degauss" button. Pressing it used to bounce the image on the screen violently, with the same "bonk" the monitor made when turning it on. I guessed that was just the degausser degaussing. Now nothing happens. Opinions?? For reference, I've pasted Jerry Greenberg's answer to my original problem. (Yeah, it took me that long to get it to the shop.) Sorry for the long post. As before, I'm grateful for your thoughts. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jerry G." Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 8:59 AM Subject: Hitachi SuperScan monitor displays odd "ribbon" across top of screen |
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